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Taught Sunday School. Salvation Debate Sermon. Pure Flix. Can you lose your salvation? We had this debate at church today. Feel free to debate this topic of soteriology and the aspects of fellowship, grace, and the law. Most of the debate depends on the the fundamentals of theology and specifically within christology. We could all threaten Owen Shroyer, to hold the Infocomms to ransom, that if certain demands are not met, then we'll just all go back to Free Square. Libra might be banned. What about Bitcoin? Isn't Ham radio too censored or regulated or limited or something? America is Ephraim: Could the Bible be multifaceted? Everything Jesus says is paraphrasing as Jesus was not speaking in English. Can Christians lose their salvation and then earn their eternal life back and does that mean Christ has to die on the cross again for us to save those Christians a second time according to Hebrews 6:6?

By Oatmeal Joey

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My Life in 2019

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Infowars

Some highlights from 2019-07-07 - Sunday, as follows:

Israel Forbidden

12:00 AM - Actually, the opposite has been true, historically, for centuries, history has been rewritten, the wars in Europe by Muslims were rewritten to minimize it by referring to the invaders simply to be, merely, barbarians, but they were Jihadists.

Watching

12:11 AM - 01:07 AM - Ray Donovan 601 - He proposed to Brigette
01:07 AM - 02:03 AM - Ray Donovan 602 - Mickey escaped

Naomi Brockwell

08:21 AM - A map of the Internet - Libra might be banned. What about Bitcoin? - Facebook was recently sent a letter from government reps telling them to stop development on their cryptocurrency "Libra". Obviously a similar letter couldn't be sent to Bitcoin, but if the government did decide to ban it, how easy would it be to shut down? To answer this question, we first need to understand how centralized and censorable the internet itself is. I chat to Josh Ellithorpe, senior software engineer at Coinbase and Bitcoin Cash developer, about full nodes, internet filtering, and how the internet itself can be controlled.

It's important to understand how the Internet works. It's valuable to be able to visualize what the Internet looks like, especially the backbones, main structures of the Internet, which is where fiber optics lines connect main data centers with other data centers, the Unfiltered Internet, the raw parts of it, where the cables, the lines, are running thousands of terabytes of data per second. Yes, per second. It's so fast, most people can't scan and filter it in live-time. The FBI, CIA, NSA, etc, may have difficulties filtering through the Unfiltered Internet, from the data centers, which is the biggest parts of the Internet in the world, and that is why censorship is generally done at the ISP level. It may be technically illegal to run servers, nodes, routers, things, on some ISPs, even as some of the ISPs may not always be enforcing those rules. In America, there may only be a few main data centers, possibly around a dozen, where most of the Internet traffic funnels through.

ISPs are like the cars on the data-center highways. ISP are like renting out the main structure, the core infrastructures of the Internet. It's important to keep the Internet as decentralized as possible. The biggest parts of the Global Unfiltered Internet are funneled through the main data centers in America. There may only be a few different data center companies in the United States, which may mean the Internet is somewhat already decentralized as it filters or runs through those main data centers, or perhaps it is centralized through those main data centers. Regardless, the more data centers and other things there are, then the more decentralized and unfiltered and uncensored and the faster and unstoppable and unkill-switchable the Internet would become or is becoming at least in theory or in actuality in most cases already.

Data-Center Highways

The Data centers are the Super Mega Space Highways in the Internet, the biggest, the fastest. Some countries may only have one main line into their country meaning that if a shark cuts, like in Vietnam for example, then you may have no global Internet-Access.

Diagrams

I'm planning on looking for some diagrams of the Internet to show to everybody. Also, I may make some, draw some maps of the Internet, as well. Knowing what the Internet looks like is only step one.

Censorship Debate

02:16 PM - Social-network moderation, from Internet Moderators, administrators, is an adaptation of newspaper, book, and magazine editing from editors, publishers, meaning a merging between the two, between platforms and publishers, fundamentally, or it blurs the line, a potential slippery slope between two styles.

Four Shows

Infowars currently has 4 main shows: The David Knight Show, Alex Jones, War Room, and the Mike Adams Show.

Call-in Show

Hopefully, they'll begin a 5th show focused on the callers. We can call into that call-in show and give ourselves credit where credit is due. Until then, we can call into these main four shows and give out credit to people. If they're not giving enough credit, or any credit, then we can.

God Debate

02:23 PM - Is there a God? How many Gods are there?

A. Zero Gods / Higher Powers
B. One God
C. One Triune God
D More One God
E. We are all gods
F. Other

Bingozee

How many gods does @Bingozee believe in?

Can you lose your salvation?

02:28 PM - We had this debate at church today. Feel free to debate this topic of soteriology and the aspects of fellowship, grace, and the law. Most of the debate depends on the the fundamentals of theology and specifically within christology.

Can a person lose salvation?

A. Yes
B. No
C. Other

Ham Radio Debate

02:14 PM - Isn't Ham radio too censored or regulated or limited or something?

Monthly Board Meetings

02:57 PM - The rulers of the Infocomms should have monthly meetings in order to remind each other what their main objectives might be for Infocomms. The core leaders and IT staff of the Infocomms should meet monthly in order to reevaluate everything, like a board meeting, in order to make sure they are all on the same page.

Limitations

Say for example, if the Infocomms has a financial debt ceiling, then they should try to find ways to keep the Infocomms from crossing that line.

I'm not saying there is a limit.

I guess it depends.

Bandwidth Limits

But hypothetically speaking, if there are bandwidth limits, or hard drive limits, then there should be a wall.

Already There

Technically, there already are some limits on Infocomms for how many comments and likes you can give each day.

Conservation

But whatever that might be, they should constantly reevaluate potential limits and make sure Infocomms is managed, financially. That's why I recommend blockchain, bit torrent, peer to peer protocols, encryption, decentralization, nodes, ad-hoc (mesh networking), etc.

Fashion Girl

03:08 PM - I love your smile and fashion. I love travel too. Cute pictures you have. Thanks for coming. Welcome. Upvoted. Resteemed.

Family Tree

03:12 PM - Marilyn Mitchell It says "Zeus (Zerah)" which does not mean Zeus, mathematically speaking as parentheses have meaning too in formulas.

Salvation Debate

03:23 PM - Playing devil's advocate, could you lose your salvation if you commit blasphemy of the Holy Spirit?

Is salvation sealed inside or outside time?

A. Inside
B. Outside

Salvation Questions

Is there a difference between losing salvation and losing fellowship? @Memeart, God didn't already make those decisions? I believe in a kind of reprobation in that we have freewill and we make different choices and some may reject the gospel simply by not accepting the gospel, which is an inaction, a lack of action, response, acceptance, commitment, pledge, surrender, eternally (outside-time), fundamentally, spiritually. @Memeart, you do not know what a devil's advocate is? Is the salvation contract covenant conditional or unconditional? Can you lose what you cannot earn? Were the Pharisees lost in the letter of the law while forgetting about the spirit of the law? @AtypicalRift, do you want to talk the benefits of following the law, the eternal principles of original oatmeal, or do you want to talk about soteriology? When I ask Christ to save me, does Jesus move me to another country? Does He grab me and relocate me, geographically, physically?

Infocomms

03:26 PM - If we are too unhappy with the Infocomms, we should migrate to better places. We could all threaten Owen Shroyer, to hold the Infocomms to ransom, that if certain demands are not met, then we'll just all go back to Free Square. How do we accelerate progress? Do we have leverage? We already have login portals. They're called email. The purpose of Infocomms does NOT have to be limited to what email already does. Infocomms should be unique. You can already group chat, group conversations, in email. Why do you want to turn Infocomms into an email service?

Jeff Epstein Arrested

03:37 PM - Mike Cernovich has helped and he has been talking about this for years and he was live-streaming about it yesterday and it was trending on Twitter yesterday.

America is Ephraim

03:44 PM - Could the Bible be multifaceted? @Memeart, could prophecies be multidimensional? Have you not studied old testament prophesies? Have you seen how a prophesy can be fulfilled in different ways at different times? @Memeart, in other words, the "America is Ephraim" is irrelevant? If so, then why are you trying to dismiss an irrelevant delusion? If America is not Ephraim, then who cares, right?

What's Wrong

03:47 PM - Should I go back to the @TheIsz avatar? Please ban me as I'm advertising myself and my website with every single comment.

The Bingozee Thread

04:03 PM - Do you believe in the things you write?

Email Problems

05:39 PM - @keyrobinfo18, did your ISP try to delete an email or was it the email provider or the operating system or something else? @keyrobinfo18, that does not mean your ISP did it. You're making an assumption, jumping to conclusions. What happened depends on a few factors that should be dissected. You might be right that it was your ISP.

Be Like Jesus

05:53 PM - Everything Jesus says is paraphrasing as Jesus was not speaking in English.

Pure Flix

Pure Flix

Big Oatmeal Party

07:09 PM - @Mischief_With_Griff, you are missing the point. You live in an imaginary world. I agree with Owen Shroyer with what he said in that one video where you called him. There is so much going on right now.

Public Over Private

Some people want private portals. But Infocomms was never designed to be a private place in the first place. I guess it goes back to what we want this place to be or what they want this place to be.

Choosing Emphasis

We could have both or pick one. I would recommend a public place. Why? Because Online Lives Matter. Black Lives Matter. All Lives Matter. Especially Online Activism and not just offline activism.

Activism

Online activism promotes offline activism which promotes more offline activism in an endless feedback loop. We all are either improving or should be improving.

Security Risk

The security thing is another can of worms because that goes back into whether or not the fourth amendment was already violated excessively already or not and it dives into

How the Internet works

As we already have security risks and issues in regards to many different things already and that is another topic for another day.

Discord might be more private. Therefore, you could have continued running your Discord server. I still have a Discord server and I will not stop it. I have email and will not stop that. I try to do a little bit of everything. Infocomms might be or could be like Twitter. Today, Donald Trump was comparing Fox to CNN. I'm a robber. I stole art. I stole everything. Tell everybody to flag me and get me banned. I'm a very bad person. Most of the accounts on Infocomms are bot accounts owned by me. I advertise myself. I'm breaking the rules. Please get me kicked off this website for being so bad, so evil, for everything evil that I'm doing on Steemit and everywhere else.

Map of the Internet

Following Me

07:31 PM - Griff said that he has an RSS Feed for my Twitter and possibly other networks and that he watches what I do on the Internet on different websites. Yeah. People are watching me. Mommy, I got a fan. I'm a big kid now.

THE INFOCOMMS ONLINE SHOW

07:49 PM - The Alex Jones Show is not PRIVATE and it's broadcasted on radio, television, and the Internet: The Infocomms could be and might be an extension of The Alex Jones Show in that it is a 24/7 LIVE Call-In Show.

Interactive Infocomms Internet Show

The Infocomms might be an INTERACTIVE ONLINE INFOWARS SHOW that might do better broadcasted to the world in the same way that the WAR ROOM and David Knight and Alex Jones and Mike Adams and other shows are broadcasted.

Why keep this show private?

The Alex Jones Show is NOT private.

Announcements

Things are announced publicly on the Alex Jones Show in the same way that things are announced on the Infocomms. If anything, at the moment, the Alex Jones Show is bigger than the Infocomms and the Alex Jones Show would do better if private and not on television using the Griff Logic to say that ANTIFA may find out what is talked about on the Alex Jones Show LIVE on TELEVISION and RADIO and that is what the Infocomms is or could be like, in that ANTIFA could dox people like SOPH who come onto his show or they may show up to Drag Queen Story Hour as soon as Owen Shroyer announces a plan to go to one and yet it also allows for patriots to come to the events as well. You are angry because you don't understand how broken the Internet already is. My favorite bunny, the Oatmeal Bunny. This website is like a show. Resurrect Mind Benders as a show and as a private activism message board and show Owen Shroyer that it can be done.

Eternal Security Debate

08:00 PM - @well_well_well, if a Christian has to earn eternal life, then why did Jesus die on the cross? Christ removed the sin, but the sin is there? So, you're saying Christ didn't really remove the sin as it is still there? I want to know if you believe in Philippians 1:6. Why do you reject John 10:28-30? @well_well_well, why do you reject Ephesians 2:8-9? @well_well_well, do you enjoy taking John 15 out of context? Why are you living inside Topical Theology? Sounds like tropical. What does Philippians 1:6 promise? Can Christians lose their salvation and then earn their eternal life back and does that mean Christ has to die on the cross again for us to save those Christians a second time according to Hebrews 6:6? @well_well_well, did you know that you believe in the 9th doctrine of The Salvation Army? So, you believe in MacArthur's Lordship Salvation???? Do you believe in justification, sanctification and glorification? If salvation is not eternal life, what is salvation? When Israel fell under the wrath in the desert, and when they fell under Babylonian captivity, did it last forever? @well_well_well, doesn't Romans 3:23 say that we are all under that same wrath? Did God break his promises with Israel? Do you really deny the promise made in Philippians 1:6 that is all about completing it? First, you got to know the context to John 15. Why are you not thinking about what I say? Sometimes, you just write stuff without thinking about what I'm writing. Do you enjoy living in your fantasy world? You reject Ephesians 2 as it describes the riches of his grace, which is outside time. The Bible is Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth. You can follow the eternal principles through the 66 books of the Bible and you can recognize patterns through the dispensations. People are lost and confused as dispensations changes. Christ came for the Jews. But the Jews rejected Christ as King. After that, a new dispensation began. A new era, the church age, as Christ then presented the gospel to the gentiles as well. The book of James is a great book. You seem to confuse salvation with fellowship. You look at verses that are talking about fellowship and you claim it's talking about soteriology as opposed to fellowship. But it's talking about fellowship. @well_well_well, you believe that God saved us but then not really. Galatians talks about people like you. First, a person is saved, justification, and then that person is also glorified outside of time, that is after life, and at the same time, that person also becomes more like Jesus while experiencing life, sanctification. Galatians talks about people who try to preach a different gospel which you might be promoting by emphasizing on works salvation which Catholics and most religions agree with you. So, you should be proud of yourself for aligning all the world religions into a one world religion. Good job. You deny how salvation works. For by grace are you saved. Not kind of saved. Not saved for a second. It's not of yourself, it's a gift of God, not a loan. Not of works lest any one should boast. God promises to help you grow in Christ as a Christian. James talks about that. Also, Ephesians 2:10 promises it outside of time as an eternal covenant. Many verses talk about it. Other verses talks about how you can lose your fellowship but not your salvation. Once saved, always saved. You cannot lose your salvation. Otherwise, you destroy the value that Jesus had. You might as well become Mormon or Catholic since they believe in the same kind of salvation you promote. The Bible proves what I'm saying, which means you are not really studying the Bible, the patterns, the context, the bigger picture, the principles, the philosophy. The Bible promotes families. It says, "Be fruitful and multiply."

All Have Sinned

09:24 PM - Who are NOT the sinners according to Romans 3:23? Salvation does NOT turn sinners into Christians? Can a sinner become a Christian?

Salvation From Sin & Hell?

How can salvation from sin NOT also include salvation from HELL? @well_well_well, what's the point of getting saved if you can't stay saved? If I'm a sinner, doesn't that mean my spirit is dead? God did not make us into new creatures? If deadness is not inactivity, what is it then? Do you want me to get saved so that I can then really get saved? Christ will not finish it? What can I do to unseparate myself with God? What did Jesus say to the guy next to Him on the cross? How can we repay that debt?

That might be.

Also, people can fear losing salvation which then can violate their ability to love, 1 John 4:19.

Why are you promoting fear over love like a leftist?

We are born dogs (sinners).

When we ask Christ to save us, Christ turns us into cats.

If we try to bark like a dog, then do we turn back into a dog?

No, we are now cats.

We are now new creatures.

God promises, Philippians 1:6, to help us become better cats.

We become cats, seated in Heaven, outside of time, according to Ephesians 2. We are seated in heavenly places. The salvation covenant contract is unconditional, outside time, eternal, and not based on works, action.

God promises to help us become more like Christ.

We may do some dog things, but our sinful nature dies and we become new creatures.

We sin because we are sinners.

We do not sin to become sinners.

The process of becoming perfect is gradual.

Three step, justification, sanctification, and glorification.

God makes promises to finish what He started in us.

God does not break his promises.

When we are saved, we become citizens of Heaven.

Heaven is outside time.

Heaven is at and in higher dimensions.

All religions, except Christianity, teaches that you can lose your salvation. This means that if you believe in losing salvation, you align yourself with those cults.

Retarded

09:52 PM - Leviticus wrote: "INFOCOMMS #2 Has Devolved Into A Spam Magnet And A Shitposting Quagmire! If it is not some Vietnamese schoolgirl raping goblin or some fluoride addled dipshit asking people on INFOCOMMS for money and their phone number…it’s some other thing!!! This forum is fucked…It is filled with nothing but social rejects brought here to keep anything with any significance from happening!!! This is a fucking joke…Infocomms survey of july."

Salvation

10:00 PM - If you don't sin to become sinners, then how can a Christian then sin to become a sinner again? Better yet, could Adam have done something to become an unsinner, to reverse that process of becoming a sinner? What's the difference between slavery to sin and walking in sin? If I'm born with no choice, no ability to choose, then how I can choose Christ? God made a bunch of robots? You said that people have no choice. You believe in no freedom. How good do I have to be to stay saved?

Big Problems

10:03 PM - @AtypicalRift, likewise, the average user is not coming to the Infocomms to find ways to murder us in our sleep. So, it goes both ways. The problems that Griff is talking about is not a problem that is sourced from the average user. But at the same time, the problems Griff reference is still something that you cannot really eliminate, generally speaking, most likely, as that's not how the Internet works. Infowars army. We can keep the Infocomms more private, a login portal, but that means missed online opportunities, online activism, as there are new people who are waking up each day. So, when people are red-pilled, they go online and they look for us.

But if we hide behind login portals, then some of the new people may have a harder time finding us, partly because private websites are less indexed or not indexed at all by search engines like Google and databases and so on.

Census

10:15 PM - The census is already on Facebook for FREE.