The #1 Thing To Do If You Want Upvotes (And Exactly What NOT To Earn Follwers And Respect)...

in steemit •  last year 

This has been said before. And it needs to be said again.

Do you want me to follow and upvote you?

Based on a lot of newbies’ comments, a common answer is “yes.”

However, this point really is worth driving home:

If you show up on my blog asking for upvotes and follows, the answer is NO before you even asked.

Not only that, you’ll have made a first impression that instantly loses you respect. And while you may have had an opportunity to earn my appreciative attention and respect - two KEY requirements before I’ll upvote anything - outright begging for votes/follows immediately puts you in the category of someone I’m likely to mute and/or never pay any further attention to, let alone vote for.

Consider this harsh if you will. But frankly, I’m fucking tired of people treating this platform like a casino where winning the jackpot depends on disrespecting those who’ve put in tremendous time and effort to create value for this community through asserting their desire to be given handouts rather than actually thoughtfully engaging and contributing something of value relevant to to conversations.

Want to gain followers and get upvoted?

Here’s a very simple, straightforward way to ensure that happens...

Produce QUALITY content.

This means both your own articles and comments.

And to clarify: “upvote and follow me” does NOT constitute quality content by ANY standards.



My position on the matter has been clearly laid out in both “The Beggar Parade Hits Steemit: Calling Bullshit On Impersonal Commenting Facades” and “A Priceless Tip For Steemit Newbies Seeking Followers & Upvotes (The #1 Thing To Do And NOT Do)”. However, given the non-stop flow of shit comments - pardon my bluntness - it appears this lesson may need to be brought up at least once more.

It’s likely to happen again. And my response is already predetermined: a “NO” and link to this article explaining why. (And at some point, I may also resort to using the mute button. One-strike policy.)

The more I see of these lame, soulless comments begging for handouts, the more I’ve been getting turned off Steemit.

Such an approach is far from professional.

And even if it’s unrealistic to expect professionalism on this platform, such an amateurish strategy does little to serve the sustainable growth of this platform and community as a space that is to be taken seriously and be deemed worthy of a far greater valuation as a professional contender in the cryptocurrency space.



Want my vote?

You’ve probably disqualified yourself off the bat, by wanting to take something from me rather than give to this community.

The strategy that would actually earn my vote:

Quality contribution.

If you come around asking for a follow/vote, how that translates: selfishness. ”Look at me. Give to ME. Fuck the rest of the community. I want, I want, I want.” Pure, repelling selfishness.

And if such comments get copied-and-pasted across multiple posts = SPAM. Outright deserving of being flagged.

Contrast with this...

A personalized comment speaking to the topic.

A thoughtful sharing of why you’ve liked a post, how it touched, moved, inspired you, what you learned that was valuable from it, what exactly you appreciated about it.

An intelligent paragraph adding insight that’s relevant to the conversation and expands the thread to include something interesting.

Something informative, entertaining, or inspirational.

Anything that would make a reader go, “wow, that’s a great comment I really appreciate, how thoughtful.”

See the pattern...?



You know that saying, ”Give a man a fish, he eats for a day. Teach a man to fish, he eats for a lifetime...?”

Consider Steemit an ocean of opportunity.

Asking for votes is like begging for a fish.

Meanwhile, you’re standing in front of a fucking ocean full of fish you can catch yourself.

And casting out bait of “upvote me” does NOT work to catch anything. It’s just some rotten-ass garbage that’ll repel everything in the water.

What will attract bites, especially those of whales whose rewards are worth something: the quality content as described above. The stuff that’s got some actual value in it.



Now, I get that a lot of the people asking for upvotes and follows might be new, and a lot of them probably don’t speak/write good English. And maybe I ought to be more patient and compassionate with my responses. However, it’s my strong opinion that condoning such begging does not serve anyone’s best interest here.

If we want Steem price to rise, that’ll take some bigger investors to see value in purchasing it. And it’s pretty likely that professionals who show up to check out the platform and see an abundance of beggars being tolerated won’t see this as a sign of a quality investment and strong community with high standards of conduct worthy of investing in.

I could be wrong. And that could be irrelevant.

Nonetheless, I’m not the only one who feels this way.

And while anyone here could be writing amazing stuff and leaving comments on my post that are truly inspiring and entice me to check out more of what they’re producing - rightfully earning themselves continued support through my automated votes (currently worth about $15 a pop) - the more shit “upvote me” comments I see, the more I wanna disengage from Steemit altogether, Power Down, reallocate my investment in professional communities holding themselves to higher standards.

Of course,Steemit isn’t perfect, we all go through our growing pains, it takes time to instill cultural values, and not everyone ever will get on the same page and adopt the codes of conduct some (as myself) might hold as ideals for what’d best serve the community.

Nonetheless, all this must be spoken (written) out to set some kind of example.



Blah blah blah.

In summary: if you happen to be guilty of begging for follows and upvotes, I invite you to STOP IT.

You’re sitting on the edge of a vast ocean here. Put in the time and energy to learn how to fish - creating value and quality content - and you’ll never have to ask for a single fish again.

If you don’t beg for handouts, excellent. And I invite you to take a stand for these values if you agree, and help educate the newbies by sharing these lessons where/when appropriate (perhaps gentler than I have).

This is an open-source culture. With each comment and article posted, we contribute to its evolution.

Wanna succeed here? Then give. Contribute to this cultural evolution through embodying increasing standards of integrity and conduct. Produce quality content that serves others.

That is how you fish.

Begging for a few pennies... or paying your dues to learn how the game is played and master it through the consistent service of quality engagement...

The choice is yours.

And now, you know how you’ll earn my following, votes, and respect. (Or not).



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Well put @rok-sivante. It really does bother me when I put out a bunch of sweat, blood, tears, and a whole lot of heart into a post that is then commented on, seconds after I click "post" with a "great post, truly inspiring" or some bullshit comment like that.

I realize that with any platform, there's going to be this type of shit lingering around, but I really do agree - it does nothing but take away value from the platform.

Now, there is a standard that I have for upvoting comments or articles. If I can tell that you A) read my post fully or B) posted something that I can tell you put thought and effort into... then I will upvote.

If it's anything below that, it's not worth my time or attention, and thus not worth any of my other Steemians time or attention either.

I think we have a GRAND opportunity to create incredible content - content that is beyond what has ever come before it, considering the FACT that we are getting paid to create it.

We can either take this opportunity on with full awareness of the rare situation that has presented itself... or just take it for granted and wither away to the demise of our own greed.

I always choose the former and I know there are a lot of individuals on here that are doing the same.

Great post brother - thank you for sharing the truth that so many of us true content creators share.

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WELL-said.

Appreciate the additional perspective. Excellent to know I’m not alone with the irritation - and adds great value to have multiple people explain in their own words, so that should other ‘offenders’ be redirected to this post in the future, it’s not just my opinion they read, but get a better idea that there are many who hold the same stance.

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Yes. Its a collective preference and truth. And
now the content is there to back it up 🙌

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It would be really ironic if the first reply was "great post, truly inspiring" posted seconds after

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lol yes it would

Well I want to say as a brand new member of the steemit community. That all you have written is words of wisdom and I encourage everyone new just to dedicate himself to what he is doing and follow his ideas and words... Thank you for supporting my cause. I did not read your article before but I have heard similar advice during my short stay. I am honored to be seen by such quality content curator as you. God Bless You. Love and Peace. Thanks again for supporting our community and my dedicated effort to bring some quality content for the steemit society ... My favorite quote I have is You Have to give What you have been Given. !!!

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With growing Steem Power I see these comments now more often under my posts as well. But I have a simple and very effective method for them: I upvote ALL comments under my posts which are not rubbish. All those that don't receive an upvote are rotting on the bottom of my posts. Without saying a word people are picking up on that and start learning. It is very profitable to engage with me on a daily basis in a non-spammy and non-begging way.

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Great strategy. 👍

I'm new here and honestly, I still don't know how to earn here. My goal is to help myself enhance my skills in writing (as if I really have that skills haha). I want to improve. I want to explore creativity here. Since I just started few days ago, I am just reading posts from random people to observe and learn from them as I am curious what's on SteemIt and I'm like "wow! It is not the same as any social media sites that you can just post anything you want although there were few Steemians I've seen who tought theyre still on fb. They produce totally nonsense posts. On SteemIt, majority of the members are creative and are intellect. I love reading posts from them because im also learning. If you could just visit my page, you'd notice that I only have few post because I want my next blogs to be a meaningful one and with my heart on it as my respect for those Steemians who put their minds and effort to produce a quality content. So I absolutely agree with your post @rok-sivante. Thanks for the insights. 😊 have a good day.

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Your welcome.

I’d recommend investing the time to read through some of this content, to speed up the learning curve here:

The Dirty Dozen: My Top 12 Most HIGHLY Recommended Posts For Steemit Noobs To Accelerate Your Success...

Though based on this comment of yours, you’re well on the right track to “getting it.” Good stuff. 😊💓

I really like this word, "Give a man a fish, he eats for a day" Teach a man to fish, he eats for a lifetime".

The essence of your submission is the quality of our content. If the quality of the content is good the pope will come. Thanks also for coming to my blog.

I would like to mention also, give my blessing to translate this article into my simple language, so that newbi in my country understand it. sorry my english is not good.

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Of course. If you feel you could do a good job in translating and they’d be of value to those in your country, by all means, feel free to translate whichever of my posts you feel would be of value to your community.

And do please post a link to the translations in the original posts, so I can make sure to support and upvote... 🙏

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Thank you for your approval. It will soon be done. Actually you are close to our country because you have been to Bali. :)

I'm a budding actor on this platform, about a month ago. I was very upset while reading the content of your conversation, meaning I made a post that sometimes just expecting a vote like a street beggar who has no self-esteem.

The purpose of all this shows that I can move quickly to the top level. It turns out what you have changed my way of thinking. thank you for your enlightenment, very useful for me especially.

For the next I will try to use fishing rods to look for fish, not to expect fish that can run out in one consumption, of course also make more beautiful fishing from now on, and I will also preach to other steemians friends to stop begging. be yourself useful to others again, thanks @rok-sivante

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Your openness and willingness to learn and course/correct is an inspiration. 😊🙏💓

(Though perhaps gently educating rather than “preaching” might be more effective...? ;-) )

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because I am motivated and I think it is worth sharing with my friends. I hope to get permission to be translated in Indonesian so that other friends understand your motivation. thanks, here's the link I've translated. :

https://steemit.com/indonesia/@teukurahmatakbar/pencerahan-bermakna-dari-rok-sivante-berikan-seekor-ikan-dia-makan-selama-sehari-ajari-seorang-pria-untuk-memancing-dia-makan

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Did you make this same comment below with a different account:

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Confused. Please explain if so...

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I do not like to copy other people's comments. maybe you can see who first made a comment with the person you mean, and i only have one account. I've tried to be honest with you. the rest is only god knows.

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In that case, I’m guessing the other user copied your comment. Very odd, and not cool.

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I forgive him who tried to copy my comment. if you wish, please visit my page @teukurahmatakbar , there I try to post about this incident, so that later you can give input about my posting so that I more adept in using this platform. Thank you @rok-sivante

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Your quickness to forgive is honorable.

However, I have flagged him for both plageurism and spam, as he copied and pasted the same comment twice, also on a different post. Unacceptable.

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your decision to mark his act as plagiarism might make a deterrent effect for him.

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That’s the point. Neither plageurism nor spam are tolerable here. Period.

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One of the frustrating aspects of steem(it) indeed. When I made my introduction post on steemit I knew close to nothing about the monetary aspect and I didn't really care. From the replies on that post I, as a technicaly, guy quickly learned there was more than just content. I stared learning about bots, flag wars, whale (non) behavior, witnesses, shit content, ...

My current conclusion is: where money plays a role there will be leeches.
Your post is about the small leeches trying to suck out little money but as you most probably know there are those at a bigger scale as well. The thing is, it's easier to be a small leech than it is to be a big one and thus we have a feeling to be flooded by these smaller ones. But maybe the bigger ones are a bigger threat.

the more shit “upvote me” comments I see, the more I wanna disengage from Steemit altogether, Power Down, reallocate my investment in professional communities holding themselves to higher standards.

I started following your blog only recently because it talks about subjects that interest me (well mostly, of course not every post) and because you present it in a refreshing way. Lot's of text but it reads so smooth.
I'm sure a lot of people have learned a lot from your writings and I think it would be a pity to loose you here.

I don't have the same level of SP and thus I won't be attracting as much leeches. For a while I flagged them but that did no good to nobody and I quit doing that, too much negative energy. My current approach is to just ignore them and focus on 'the good ones' and supporting those.That has been my general approach in life and it gives me the best feeling. Money is just an aspect of life, but helping others is worth so much more. That's my main motivation for @steemmakers. I delegated most of my SP there because I believe it is worth a lot more to help those writers than to try and optimize my own voting returns.

I sincerely hope you don't let get these aspects get to you, they are not worth it. And when you think of leeches ... they die without blood being given to them, look at the bright side :-)

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I try to listen to your writing, I slowly read it, trying to understand every sentence you write, knowing my English is not fluent, I come from Indonesia. Paragraph by paragraph I have read, I got a few sentences RUDE, Yeah at first glance the sentence looks RUDE. However, I understand that you are just trying to confirm that sentence.

Like the sentence below:

  • "If you come around asking for a follow / vote, how that translates: selfishness." Pure, repelling selfishness. "I want, I want, I want." "*

  • "And if such comments get copied-and-pasted across multiple posts = SPAM Outright deserving of being flagged." *

If not understood clearly, then there will be many people who feel upset when reading it. However, I try to understand it that it is a good advice.

I keep reading your writing, until I get a very meaningful conclusion after reading your post. There are many rules that you give, and I like all the rules. I myself am trying to improve the quality of my post, and hope every post I can be enjoyed and appreciated by others.

thank you for sharing, it's nice to be able to build this communication with you. greetings success, have a nice day.

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I'll be totally honest here Rok

Unlike @imp.unity I see this platform as a way of making money.

Honesty is one of the things I value the most, and when I signed up on Steemit I didn't do it because I had nowhere else to blog, I did it because I was interested in the rewards... I would even go as far as saying that most of the users do it too.

Unlike those who say they don't care about the money and yet beg for attention, I say "yes" I want the money, as most of us, but Im not afraid to slave away to get it.

I post 2 times per day, I post every single day, and I have a pretty high comment daily average... and my comment aren't generic crap either.

Having said that... can anyone blame me? I'm contributing to the community, and I think Im adding a lot of value with my guides, the newbies I help (funny as Im a newbie myself) and the friendships I make.

Steemit is about this as a whole!!

It is NOT only about community building. It is Community Building that is sustainable and profitable - and THAT's the revolutionary part about it I think..

...what do you think?

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The main reason I’m still here too is also for the money. So I’m not gonna pretend like it’s not.

However, there’s a big difference between learning the rules of the game and earning through gcreating value* and begging for handouts that aren’t deserved/earned.

You’re on a great track, as you get it. your comments are always personalized, thoughtful, and add something interesting that’s a pleasure to read. This is exactly the type of content that entices me to come visit your blog and upvote the stuff of your I enjoy.

And these are the lessons that perhaps need be taught most here. The money motivations alone are no problem, just the strategy some attempt to go getting it with versus earning it through quality contributions.

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Here's an extra 5 cents to buy that Vancouver condo then! To our success! :D

This is a very interesting post, as always you have an oration that made me say "wow". This is indeed the fact, of course, among the new steemit, they want to grow up by begging, this is very repulsive.
I am sure this post will be able to change the way of thinking steemians Indonesia in particular. Can I translate it again in Indonesian, this time I will try to translate with a language that is smooth and relaxed, so easy to understand, I think this post is very important to remove the dirty thinking way users of this platform. Regards @rok-sivante

@rok-sivante Very well said and frankly spoken to all Steemians out there who want the upvote of co members.

First things first the best way to get an upvote / comment and resteem from other member especially those members they call as #whale is to post unique & quality contents, it's hard to grab their attention if we post a blog with no quality.

I agree with this blog of yours @rok-sivante to remind and warn all members especially the new ones. I'm trying to post the best as I can here in Steemit because I noticed from the past days of being active here it's really hard to get the attention of others if we are not sharing quality post.

I want to leave this simple saying about quality content:

"Forget the hard sell and the dry press release. Audiences have wised up, so give them high-quality content that they can really engage with."


photo credits: hoffman-info.com


@jjeeppeerrxx143

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I think that a banner asking for follow, upvote and resteem is pretty much exactly what this post is about but wrapped in a slightly nicer way. think about it. ;)

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Borderline...

I understand where this is coming from, and agree at times.

Though, it really comes down to the actual quality of the accompanying comment. For example, this one is good - therefore it can squeeze by.

Or yesterday, I had another that was also a good comment - and the banner pic they used actually got my attention, as it was for some “Steem Camp” project in Nigeria. Had they just posted the banner, I probably woulda passed over - but the quality comment was enough to earn some respect, and it was evident that they weren’t out solely for themselves, but serving a cool community project worthy of support. Thus, squeezed by.

But if it’s just some generic shit comment with a big advertisement, fuck that.

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Yes, it is borderline. I didn't mean to judge that too harshly. I just stumbled upon it after reading your post and had to smile about the irony. ;)

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Thank you for that Post @rok-sivante ! I am pretty new here an steemit... In the beginning I just wanted to buy some Steem because I like the Projects of Stan and Dan (STEEM, EOS & Bitshares). But after I while only doing comments and upvotes on other Posts, I began to Post my own Stuff. At the Time it is only Architectual Photograpy, mostly Berlin, and some nice Pictures from traveling around. I really like this Idea here on steemit, but I also see that here are many bad content Posts. Sometimes I think here are People with huge Steempower whose build a "Gang" and upvotes just each other. This is something that might have to change, but I don't know how. As you said, for me it is a bit difficult to Post and Comment in high Quality all the Time because English isn't my mother Language... so this here takes long for me 😉 BTW this is the first social Media Platform I've signed in. FOLLOW, UPVOTE + RESTEEM @rok-sivante

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Hmmm... I wonder if reverse psycology is something that would work with you.... Please don't visit my blog and don't support me!

Having said that, I am sure this post will fall to deaf ears, the ones begging for votes just don't get it :)

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Lol. Such manipulative tactics... no.

However, you did earn some points for originality here. 😊

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I will gladly take them XD

Thanks @rok-sivante who care about the progress of this platform by contributing his ideas. Previously I wanted to explain maybe there is from you who think this is the way I seek attention, you are wrong. I just helped develop this platform by sharing goodness. I honestly almost 80% of beginners begging vote and follow, and this will be very disturbing progress. I want them to understand the correct way of fishing, not just to beg for fish. I've tried to translate it in a language that is easy to understand Indonesia, if colleagues @ rok-sivante want to visit to see it, can visit here:
https://steemit.com/indonesia/@moexyn19/anda-ingin-upvote-lakukan-hal-ini-rok-sivante-6821227fe7261
Thank you, I keep waiting for your outstanding postings again, while training yourself to be able to be like you. 😊

I've read countless posts on begging for upvotes and follows but sadly every day I log in I still see people doing it. I saw one analogy that was used to describe upvote begging. The person asked if we would stop a random stranger on the road to ask for money. Many answered in the negative. Then he asked why is upvote begging in steemit any different, since we do not go about asking people for handouts or money, why then do we do it on steemit? The thing I think is most joined here with the wrong mindset and assumed you could just go around and ask for upvotes and get upvotes for doing nothing. I won't be surprised to see later someone in this same comment ask for upvotes!

I do not think you are alone on this as many find it distasteful too. Thanks a lot.

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Well-stated.

There’s probably the “keyboard warrior” thing in effect here too - it’s easier to just spam comments everywhere loosely rather than look a person in the eyes face to face and ask.

Surprisingly, there haven’t been any upvote requests yet! Maybe the message actually got through this time. :-)

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I'm surprised too, at least it proved the spammers do read too!

Writing quality content is the only way to grow steemit as a platform. (I think. I hope).

Quality doesn't have to be serious - it has to be done with conviction. With passion. With a sense of joy, and something which Steemit has now become for me, personally.

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Meanwhile, you're standing in front of a fucking ocean full of fish you can catch yourself.
I am very impressed with your article .. but now it is unfortunate for beginners in steemit they are a lot of unfocused because they do not have upvote ,, maybe make spam comments in posting that person is very annoying for the owner of the article it's so lol hahahaha ,, but they do it because do not know how to fishing so teach them to hahahah fishing ,,, I really agree with this article, anyone who read your article will definitely fight for fishing so they can eat fish forever ,, good luck sivante :), very unfortunate for beginners now among them there is a very good work but not appreciated maybe it's the real thing because now many are working to sell votes maybe they will understand if it has learned a lot .. I think your article is very important for beginners because they can be motivated by reading your article, ,
I got a very important point today.
@rok-sivante

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I agree with everything you have written here and in your earlier posts!
I sometimes even don't get it why new Steemians are posting this. I mean, it must be obvious that a comment like:"please upvote and follow me" wouldn't leave a good impression and is more than annoying. So I totally can understand why you aren't patient, I wouldn't be either!
For the point about the english knowledge: A lot of people do not speak proper english (me included) but they at least try to produce useful comments or post even if it is hard for them! I wasn't speaking about me right now but I had some comments below my posts which I had problems to understand or even posts which I found interesting because they were talking about a different country but they obviously had problems to write it in english. But anyways they tried and put in some effort! At least a lot more than "Upvote me pls"...

Actually, I just wanted to say you are right with posting another post about this stuff :D

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what about the ol' reversi:

'Yo Turdlings, I'd really appreciate it if you DO NOT follow me, and if Steemit ever introduces a down-vote button, hammer away on my rather benign posts. Signed a Steemy pile of excrement.'

Might work?

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Lol.

That one definitely wins creativity points... :-)

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I see @trumpman had the same idea ;)

I might have to give it a go on my next post: 'and plebs, a word of warning...you best keep that cursor off the follow button, else Wayne Brady's gonna have to choke a bitch'.

I'll let you know if I earn more than my usual .04 cents

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You just won 10 cents :O

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Hey @rok-sivante, there have been a lot of antics on steemit with that kind of activity. Have been getting random "please upvote" style DMs on discord, lately...

Anyway, well written and you have the best GIFs! lol

Happy new year, amigo.

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Pinterest. ;-)

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When I first started seriously contributing to the platform, I read one of your older posts quite similar to this.

At the time, I thought it was a bit harsh, but I thought I'd follow your advice as you have done extremely well on this platform. I now realise that it is not at all harsh. By creating great content, my account has grown quite well. I have put a tremendous effort into Steemit over the past two weeks and have gained a decent following, as well as one or two large upvotes, and have been networking with every possible person.

Thank you for this advice, and I say the same to anyone who asks How To make money on the platform - provide value, and don't be Spammy!

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And your comments are an excellent example of the “what to do.”

For real - they’re always engaging, personalized, relevant to the discussion, add something of interest, and have won my respect and attention. Consequentially, you are one of the very few people I’ve added to my follow list recently and am stoked to check out more of what you put out.

You are a fine walking example of the type of role models and standards this platform would benefit greatly from, in my opinion. So thank you for your service to the community as well. 🙏💖

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Thank you @rok-sivante! I'm very happy to hear that you're following me - my content will be primarily cryptocurrency based for the next month or two, but then I'll be getting in to topics like quantum mechanics, artificial intelligence and even some metaphysics.

Thanks again for the comment, I'm humbled. my main goal is to give to the community, so I'll keep putting out my content!

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Niiiice. Looking forward to the diversification, as those are some of my favourite subjects... 😎

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Glad to hear! Will be looking at most other subjects from an ethical stand point as opposed to a technical one. Hopefully my audience likes it too!

👍 there is no shortcut to reach to the top. @rok-sivante sir you are not blunt at all. The best way to make people aware is to keep shaking them to the reality.👌
Steemit is paradise for good author and here noone is doing any charity of upvotes . Earn it or Loose it, it depends how the user wants to choose.

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Sometimes a semi-violent shakeup may be necessary to call attention to what’s working. Call it tough love. Though there may come a time when being extra nice and accommodating isn’t helpful, whereas a stern wake up call can really drive a lesson home.

Of course, there may be a time and place for each...

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100% agree 👍

Anway i m gonna listen ...Shake it off......by .taylor swift😂

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The begging point, let me write a post. whom to follow. :)

I strongly agree with your opinion @ this happens a lot now because there are so many beginners but do not know how to respect. I am also a beginner, joining since July 2017. But many of my friends are teaching us to be more professional in this world. So I learned little by little for this, and now I have a little more know how to respect and appreciate people in this world. For your writing this I really appreciate because this could be the key for beginners like me this. Thank you for writing this very useful.

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The steemit world is really an ocean full of fishes, I have been trying to cast my net though, hopefully I get the whales attention. Great write up. It's good to keep this reminder post out there once a while to get newbies on our feet.

I completely agree with everything said here. But do the people actually doing this even read posts like this one? When I try to explain to people how their spam is futile and even offensive, many of them don't even speak English or follow what I'm saying. Which could be one reason why their comments appear as recycled spam - they translate a generic, positive phrase into English and then start throwing that same comment onto everything they can in hopes that some of them stick. But what doesn't stick doesn't seem to make any impression on them at all. And if they're playing the odds, they simply don't care. It's a depressing situation, for sure. But if even a few of them read your post here, and the message gets through, that's something positive, at least.

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Yep. Can’t clean up all the garbage in one swoop, but can set an example and reach even a few people - who knows that the ripple effect will be. (And, the link to this will be my standard response for such spam in the future, as leverage to keep the message going out as needed)...

driven by money but you have to build the road, steemit is where reward and commitment makes life spicy!

that's how I would conclude my first month on steemit I'm all in!

Do you know this saying? "Give fish to humans, he eats for a day. Teach someone to fish, he eats for life."

This is really a very wise saying and looks really cool. and this saying will not be lost in time. Too bad if I am a little late reading your post, maybe my comment will not be useful anymore and maybe my comment will not be read again. but I'm still happy to be able to give a little comment on this post. I have read your post, and I think this post is very useful for us who are beginners. we will continue to provide quality things to advance STEEMIT. thank you @rok-sivante ... !!

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Yep. Just used it 23 hours ago, actually... :-)

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Oh, thanks..

Very good post, Sir, you have written very well!
I will definitely follow all of your suggestions.

Well written, I agree with you.

You have always guided us all in a very simple and systematic way, we will all be thankful for you sir

I just know about this @rok-sivante, sorry because I've been wrong to address this issue. and at first I did very often make mistakes like this. this is very helpful to me, and thanks for this.

I am a newbie author in Steemit and I am still observing how things work in here. I guarantee that my posts are meaningful and the contents are of good quality. I'm still earning cents in my every post. Yet, I never dare to ask anyone to upvote nor to follow my posts.I'm here in Steemit to pursue my passion in writing, I know that in the future Steemians would notice that I am contributing informative contents here.
To my fellow newbies, just don't give up.Keep on catching fish!!

Excellent post. I hadn't thought about possible big-time investors being turned off by poor quality posts on the Steemit platform. Hopefully, poor content posters either clean up their acts or post enough times with garbage (while getting very few upvotes/rewards) that they wear themselves out and leave. :)

Quality over quantity for sure. Best way to go.

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Yep. I mean, if you were a seriously investor - would you rather invest in Time Magazine, or trash tabloids? HBO, or a TV channel playing nothing but Jerry Springer and bad infomercials...?

Good post about the new authors
They are trying every way to get upvotes
Even commenting on every blog
They should try to work on improving or contributing good blogs to steemit

All the beggars listening to this

You have clearly stated it here below,being new does not excuse a person in any way.

Now, I get that a lot of the people asking for upvotes and follows might be new, and a lot of them probably don’t speak/write good English

I always see a bunch of folks not learning the art of commenting,like how do you get the guts comment on a post like this with "nice post,i liked this post..."WTF....!!

I have been inspired to write a post today explaining how guys should comment,people should realize that commenting greatly on Steemit is one of the easiest way to success.

As i write this,i have already seen one of those generic comments! As you said

it takes time to instill cultural values, and not everyone ever will get on the same page and adopt the codes of conduct some (as myself) might hold as ideals for what’d best serve the community.

The more you teach such stuff,the more people will learn and change,out of every 10 people,one will learn and change according to the laws of averages.

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The more you teach such stuff,the more people will learn and change,out of every 10 people,one will learn and change according to the laws of averages.

That’s always my intent with shadings like this. How many people it may affect, who knows. But even if only one person gets it and course-corrects - or passes on the lessons and helps others check themselves as they’re learning the ropes, it may be worth it.

I’d encourage you to follow through with that inspiration. Post the link back here when it’s up, and I’ll happily show my support (as long as it’s quality)... :-)

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I have finished the article and you can have a look at it here.
https://steemit.com/steemit/@jaraumoses/4-kickass-ways-of-commenting-on-steemit

LOL at the middle finger psychedelic pussy pic!

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He he. 😎

I been here in steemit for a while, I really love this platform and the people so talented around. Last week I get sick and I couldn't post so from 3$ my post are all the way down to 0.30$ :( Can you explain me why that happen? I need truly to be more commenting and stuff and help more comunities here, to support more! Thanks for sharing this kinds of post, this way newbies can understand a little bit more of how Steemit works!

how i can put a profile picture on my accpunt? i didnt have a url website.... just jpg..... can somebody help me???? thanks!!!!!

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Under “Settings.”

You’ll need to upload a pic to a third-party photo hosting site - or do so in a new Steemit post, and then copy the URL/link over.

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thanks my friend!

karena saya termotivasi dan menurut saya perlu berbagi dengan teman-teman saya. Saya berharap bisa mendapatkan izin untuk diterjemahkan dalam bahasa Indonesia sehingga teman-teman lain mengerti motivasi anda. terima kasih, inilah link yang telah saya terjemahkan :

https://steemit.com/indonesia/@teukurahmatakbar/pencerahan-bermakna-dari-rok-sivante-berikan-seekor-ikan-dia-makan-selama-sehari-ajari-seorang-pria-untuk-memancing-dia-makan

"What will attract bites, especially those of whales whose rewards are worth something: the quality content as described above. The stuff that’s got some actual value in it."

Thats what it comes down to; and its so damn relative. Oh and charisma. Number of charismatic people making serious STEEM posting ubiquitous content.

I am a woman from Indonesia is looking forward to the inspirational writing from @rok-sivante, hope you come back to Indonesia and come to Aceh in order to enjoy the beauty of the city of Sabang

Amaizing

Good opinion

I am always happy to upvote this post and resteem. because your article is very useful thanks already sharing

I think Quality content and being friendly to the others is the key to success on Steemit ! Great post :)

I have been EXACTLY the same lately.
And totally had a little rant about it the other day.
STOP. WITH. YOUR.FUCKING.UPVOTE.ME.USELESS.SHIT.
Literally wasting my time and theirs.

I honestly think that this is going to be an ongoing topic that needs to be brought up every effing month orso.
But thankfully there are a lot of good peeps on here too.

Be well

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Lol. Nice.

Glad to hear others say it so forward. 😎

I think Steemit could improve by getting rid of the "$" sign under every comment or post. I think seeing "$" triggers, or at least elicits, a subconscious response that is not aligned with SteemIt values. I think it would even work if it just says .50 instead of "$.50"

Anyways, I loved this post. I am really new to SteemIt. I just started yesterday. I am so excited and PUMPED about the concept. It will kick Mark Zuckerberg's (and every advertiser using the current extremely unfair revenue model) butt and empower millions (hopefully billions) of people! It's a new day.

To be honest, I was kind of confused when I started using SteemIt. It feels like jumping straight into the deep end. I've been reading some of the starter articles, etc. I was looking for the "secret" and wondering if there was something I didn't know about posting or curating. This post answered it all for me, and I feel ready to start! @rok-sivante Can you add it to the starter articles that SteemIt provides?

Be on the lookout for my "introduceyourself" post. I'm looking forward to being an active and contributing member to this amazing community :)

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That’d be great if could, though I’m really not sure who has been in charge of putting together that list or how I’d go about recommending it be added. Would probably be a stronger recommendation if someone else did, too.

:-)

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Mohon maaf sebelumya.
Saya kurang mahir berbahasa Inggris.

Postingan @rok-sivante sungguh sangat bermanfaat untuk saya sendiri dikarenakan saya masih baru menggunakan steemit.

Selama ini saya selalu berharap ada teman-teman atau kurator untuk upvote setiap postingan saya.

Apakah anda mengizinkan saya untuk repost tulisan anda? Supaya bisa menjadi pencerahan untuk teman-teman Steemians pemula lainnya.

Terima kasih.

I had the urge to just type "preach!!!" but I know that it would be fround upon haha! You put forth very passionate reasons to punish spammers. My problem is this: how do you tell if it's a true spammer or bot, against some desperate lad from some 3rd world country just trying to feed his family, and he finally found a way...

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I’d say, the more you see if this type of stuff, the easier it gets to tell. And frequency of comments is also a dead giveaway - if the account is posting every 20-60 seconds, you can be pretty sure it’s a bot - and deserving of at least one flag.

If it’s a real person, usually there’s at least some variance in the content, however small.

I don’t necessarily feel “punishment” is always called for. If it’s outright spam and intentions are clearly selfish, a flag might be in order - with a comment explaining why. If they acknowledge the mistake and stop, I usually have no problem removing the flag. Sometimes, people just don’t know any better and need to be educated on proper etiquette here, and a combination of carrots and sticks can work wonders...

it seems so crazy that people would go around asking for someone to follow them. They must see others doing it and think this is a good idea. Gratefully I found your post in case i would follow their example (I dont' think I would).

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Perhaps.

Surprisingly, the amount it’s happened on my posts has cut down since posting this. Not sure if just coincidence, or people actually read and created some kinda ripple effect. Whatever the case, grateful for the receptivity - and service of a couple who’ve translated this into Indonesian to help teach. One positive example at a time...

Well said! Upvotes should be earned, not just given.

You know that saying, ”Give a man a fish, he eats for a day. Teach a man to fish, he eats for a lifetime...?”

You know the other version of this saying? "Give a man a fish, he eats for a day. Teach a man to fish, and you've ruined a wonderful business opportunity.

This is a post worth being on the trending page not the bullshit "how I ate my red-pepper ice cream in Alaska" posts!

You're the man!

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ha ha!

true, perhaps - at least from the capitalist's point of view... :-)

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You look like a nice guy. I am sure I'll see you around more often from now on!
Say hello from me to Dan Lok when you see him :P

Have a great day buddy!

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who is Dan Lok??

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His kind of big in Vancouver :P

A great business guy. I thought you might know him.

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mmm, I know a Pat Lok who is a DJ/producer, but not Dan.

the Steemit community will be more amateurish if Steem be more popular. And the more low-quality content will be published. If I had asked my relatives sign in here, they only will vote for a photos in the Steepshot. They will not understand Posts in English

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Have you checked out Golos?

To my understanding, it’s essentially a Russian Steemit. I’d imagine it has a lot more Russian content that this site has...

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I tried Golos, but for the quality posts and comments I have received only 0.001SBD
https://golos.io/@yura81

I can also be assertive. Especially for @rok-sivante, I just need knowledge from you. The science you give is more valuable than your upvote value. point.

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correction: it may not necessary be me you need knowledge from. Rather, it is just the right knowledge itself.

I may have acquired and put some of it into practice, though I am by no means the only source.

Though if you do perhaps resonate with the way I present my sharings, feel free to dig further back into my blog and read what I've written over the last 2 years, as there is surely plenty of gold nuggets in there... ;-)

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I have to admit, I found science on your blog. Of course I will continue to multiply more, and try to understand every sentence you write. Thank you sir for your answer

hahaha I feel you, I am irritated to those type of comments requesting for am upvote and even putting a link of their shit post on the comment.

Some of them go further by treating others by downvoting them if they don't recieve 5SBD for what he said security. just look at this account "yakuza" he is the worst of them all.

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WTF.

Couldn’t interpret much since all his comments appear to be in Japanese(?). Thought that’s just ridiculous.

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look at his wallet transaction and what is the memo written on it. some of it is a letter from those he bothered and blackmailed.

Wow ..this post was about 6months ago,
But i will still make my comments
This is really encouraging.
I got the link from your latest post.
When i startes blogging.
I had always beg for vote.
Seeming like i was stalking , i stopped without no one telling me.
Enlighting people about new updates
Dapps, contests , alternative platform on the blockchain, mark down styles and so on.
I get visible to the steemit world and by so i starting earning.
I know i am not there yet .
But i will surely grow.
Nice words @rok-sivante once again.

How many spammers will beg for upvotes on this post? My guess is at least 3.

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Lol. I’ve been prepping for it... 😈

I wrote something very similar recently. Great post!