Well put @rok-sivante. It really does bother me when I put out a bunch of sweat, blood, tears, and a whole lot of heart into a post that is then commented on, seconds after I click "post" with a "great post, truly inspiring" or some bullshit comment like that.
I realize that with any platform, there's going to be this type of shit lingering around, but I really do agree - it does nothing but take away value from the platform.
Now, there is a standard that I have for upvoting comments or articles. If I can tell that you A) read my post fully or B) posted something that I can tell you put thought and effort into... then I will upvote.
If it's anything below that, it's not worth my time or attention, and thus not worth any of my other Steemians time or attention either.
I think we have a GRAND opportunity to create incredible content - content that is beyond what has ever come before it, considering the FACT that we are getting paid to create it.
We can either take this opportunity on with full awareness of the rare situation that has presented itself... or just take it for granted and wither away to the demise of our own greed.
I always choose the former and I know there are a lot of individuals on here that are doing the same.
Great post brother - thank you for sharing the truth that so many of us true content creators share.
Appreciate the additional perspective. Excellent to know I’m not alone with the irritation - and adds great value to have multiple people explain in their own words, so that should other ‘offenders’ be redirected to this post in the future, it’s not just my opinion they read, but get a better idea that there are many who hold the same stance.
Well I want to say as a brand new member of the steemit community. That all you have written is words of wisdom and I encourage everyone new just to dedicate himself to what he is doing and follow his ideas and words... Thank you for supporting my cause. I did not read your article before but I have heard similar advice during my short stay. I am honored to be seen by such quality content curator as you. God Bless You. Love and Peace. Thanks again for supporting our community and my dedicated effort to bring some quality content for the steemit society ... My favorite quote I have is You Have to give What you have been Given. !!!
With growing Steem Power I see these comments now more often under my posts as well. But I have a simple and very effective method for them: I upvote ALL comments under my posts which are not rubbish. All those that don't receive an upvote are rotting on the bottom of my posts. Without saying a word people are picking up on that and start learning. It is very profitable to engage with me on a daily basis in a non-spammy and non-begging way.
I'm new here and honestly, I still don't know how to earn here. My goal is to help myself enhance my skills in writing (as if I really have that skills haha). I want to improve. I want to explore creativity here. Since I just started few days ago, I am just reading posts from random people to observe and learn from them as I am curious what's on SteemIt and I'm like "wow! It is not the same as any social media sites that you can just post anything you want although there were few Steemians I've seen who tought theyre still on fb. They produce totally nonsense posts. On SteemIt, majority of the members are creative and are intellect. I love reading posts from them because im also learning. If you could just visit my page, you'd notice that I only have few post because I want my next blogs to be a meaningful one and with my heart on it as my respect for those Steemians who put their minds and effort to produce a quality content. So I absolutely agree with your post @rok-sivante. Thanks for the insights. 😊 have a good day.
I really like this word, "Give a man a fish, he eats for a day" Teach a man to fish, he eats for a lifetime".
The essence of your submission is the quality of our content. If the quality of the content is good the pope will come. Thanks also for coming to my blog.
I would like to mention also, give my blessing to translate this article into my simple language, so that newbi in my country understand it. sorry my english is not good.
Of course. If you feel you could do a good job in translating and they’d be of value to those in your country, by all means, feel free to translate whichever of my posts you feel would be of value to your community.
And do please post a link to the translations in the original posts, so I can make sure to support and upvote... 🙏
I'm a budding actor on this platform, about a month ago. I was very upset while reading the content of your conversation, meaning I made a post that sometimes just expecting a vote like a street beggar who has no self-esteem.
The purpose of all this shows that I can move quickly to the top level. It turns out what you have changed my way of thinking. thank you for your enlightenment, very useful for me especially.
For the next I will try to use fishing rods to look for fish, not to expect fish that can run out in one consumption, of course also make more beautiful fishing from now on, and I will also preach to other steemians friends to stop begging. be yourself useful to others again, thanks @rok-sivante
because I am motivated and I think it is worth sharing with my friends. I hope to get permission to be translated in Indonesian so that other friends understand your motivation. thanks, here's the link I've translated. :
I do not like to copy other people's comments. maybe you can see who first made a comment with the person you mean, and i only have one account. I've tried to be honest with you. the rest is only god knows.
I forgive him who tried to copy my comment. if you wish, please visit my page @teukurahmatakbar , there I try to post about this incident, so that later you can give input about my posting so that I more adept in using this platform. Thank you @rok-sivante
One of the frustrating aspects of steem(it) indeed. When I made my introduction post on steemit I knew close to nothing about the monetary aspect and I didn't really care. From the replies on that post I, as a technicaly, guy quickly learned there was more than just content. I stared learning about bots, flag wars, whale (non) behavior, witnesses, shit content, ...
My current conclusion is: where money plays a role there will be leeches.
Your post is about the small leeches trying to suck out little money but as you most probably know there are those at a bigger scale as well. The thing is, it's easier to be a small leech than it is to be a big one and thus we have a feeling to be flooded by these smaller ones. But maybe the bigger ones are a bigger threat.
the more shit “upvote me” comments I see, the more I wanna disengage from Steemit altogether, Power Down, reallocate my investment in professional communities holding themselves to higher standards.
I started following your blog only recently because it talks about subjects that interest me (well mostly, of course not every post) and because you present it in a refreshing way. Lot's of text but it reads so smooth.
I'm sure a lot of people have learned a lot from your writings and I think it would be a pity to loose you here.
I don't have the same level of SP and thus I won't be attracting as much leeches. For a while I flagged them but that did no good to nobody and I quit doing that, too much negative energy. My current approach is to just ignore them and focus on 'the good ones' and supporting those.That has been my general approach in life and it gives me the best feeling. Money is just an aspect of life, but helping others is worth so much more. That's my main motivation for @steemmakers. I delegated most of my SP there because I believe it is worth a lot more to help those writers than to try and optimize my own voting returns.
I sincerely hope you don't let get these aspects get to you, they are not worth it. And when you think of leeches ... they die without blood being given to them, look at the bright side :-)
I try to listen to your writing, I slowly read it, trying to understand every sentence you write, knowing my English is not fluent, I come from Indonesia. Paragraph by paragraph I have read, I got a few sentences RUDE, Yeah at first glance the sentence looks RUDE. However, I understand that you are just trying to confirm that sentence.
Like the sentence below:
"If you come around asking for a follow / vote, how that translates: selfishness." Pure, repelling selfishness. "I want, I want, I want." "*
"And if such comments get copied-and-pasted across multiple posts = SPAM Outright deserving of being flagged." *
If not understood clearly, then there will be many people who feel upset when reading it. However, I try to understand it that it is a good advice.
I keep reading your writing, until I get a very meaningful conclusion after reading your post. There are many rules that you give, and I like all the rules. I myself am trying to improve the quality of my post, and hope every post I can be enjoyed and appreciated by others.
thank you for sharing, it's nice to be able to build this communication with you. greetings success, have a nice day.
Unlike @imp.unity I see this platform as a way of making money.
Honesty is one of the things I value the most, and when I signed up on Steemit I didn't do it because I had nowhere else to blog, I did it because I was interested in the rewards... I would even go as far as saying that most of the users do it too.
Unlike those who say they don't care about the money and yet beg for attention, I say "yes" I want the money, as most of us, but Im not afraid to slave away to get it.
I post 2 times per day, I post every single day, and I have a pretty high comment daily average... and my comment aren't generic crap either.
Having said that... can anyone blame me? I'm contributing to the community, and I think Im adding a lot of value with my guides, the newbies I help (funny as Im a newbie myself) and the friendships I make.
Steemit is about this as a whole!!
It is NOT only about community building. It is Community Building that is sustainable and profitable - and THAT's the revolutionary part about it I think..
The main reason I’m still here too is also for the money. So I’m not gonna pretend like it’s not.
However, there’s a big difference between learning the rules of the game and earning through gcreating value* and begging for handouts that aren’t deserved/earned.
You’re on a great track, as you get it. your comments are always personalized, thoughtful, and add something interesting that’s a pleasure to read. This is exactly the type of content that entices me to come visit your blog and upvote the stuff of your I enjoy.
And these are the lessons that perhaps need be taught most here. The money motivations alone are no problem, just the strategy some attempt to go getting it with versus earning it through quality contributions.
Well put @rok-sivante. It really does bother me when I put out a bunch of sweat, blood, tears, and a whole lot of heart into a post that is then commented on, seconds after I click "post" with a "great post, truly inspiring" or some bullshit comment like that.
I realize that with any platform, there's going to be this type of shit lingering around, but I really do agree - it does nothing but take away value from the platform.
Now, there is a standard that I have for upvoting comments or articles. If I can tell that you A) read my post fully or B) posted something that I can tell you put thought and effort into... then I will upvote.
If it's anything below that, it's not worth my time or attention, and thus not worth any of my other Steemians time or attention either.
I think we have a GRAND opportunity to create incredible content - content that is beyond what has ever come before it, considering the FACT that we are getting paid to create it.
We can either take this opportunity on with full awareness of the rare situation that has presented itself... or just take it for granted and wither away to the demise of our own greed.
I always choose the former and I know there are a lot of individuals on here that are doing the same.
Great post brother - thank you for sharing the truth that so many of us true content creators share.
WELL-said.
Appreciate the additional perspective. Excellent to know I’m not alone with the irritation - and adds great value to have multiple people explain in their own words, so that should other ‘offenders’ be redirected to this post in the future, it’s not just my opinion they read, but get a better idea that there are many who hold the same stance.
🙏👌⭐️
Yes. Its a collective preference and truth. And
now the content is there to back it up 🙌
It would be really ironic if the first reply was "great post, truly inspiring" posted seconds after
lol yes it would
Well I want to say as a brand new member of the steemit community. That all you have written is words of wisdom and I encourage everyone new just to dedicate himself to what he is doing and follow his ideas and words... Thank you for supporting my cause. I did not read your article before but I have heard similar advice during my short stay. I am honored to be seen by such quality content curator as you. God Bless You. Love and Peace. Thanks again for supporting our community and my dedicated effort to bring some quality content for the steemit society ... My favorite quote I have is You Have to give What you have been Given. !!!
😊🙏💗
With growing Steem Power I see these comments now more often under my posts as well. But I have a simple and very effective method for them: I upvote ALL comments under my posts which are not rubbish. All those that don't receive an upvote are rotting on the bottom of my posts. Without saying a word people are picking up on that and start learning. It is very profitable to engage with me on a daily basis in a non-spammy and non-begging way.
Great strategy. 👍
I'm new here and honestly, I still don't know how to earn here. My goal is to help myself enhance my skills in writing (as if I really have that skills haha). I want to improve. I want to explore creativity here. Since I just started few days ago, I am just reading posts from random people to observe and learn from them as I am curious what's on SteemIt and I'm like "wow! It is not the same as any social media sites that you can just post anything you want although there were few Steemians I've seen who tought theyre still on fb. They produce totally nonsense posts. On SteemIt, majority of the members are creative and are intellect. I love reading posts from them because im also learning. If you could just visit my page, you'd notice that I only have few post because I want my next blogs to be a meaningful one and with my heart on it as my respect for those Steemians who put their minds and effort to produce a quality content. So I absolutely agree with your post @rok-sivante. Thanks for the insights. 😊 have a good day.
Your welcome.
I’d recommend investing the time to read through some of this content, to speed up the learning curve here:
The Dirty Dozen: My Top 12 Most HIGHLY Recommended Posts For Steemit Noobs To Accelerate Your Success...
Though based on this comment of yours, you’re well on the right track to “getting it.” Good stuff. 😊💓
I really like this word, "Give a man a fish, he eats for a day" Teach a man to fish, he eats for a lifetime".
The essence of your submission is the quality of our content. If the quality of the content is good the pope will come. Thanks also for coming to my blog.
I would like to mention also, give my blessing to translate this article into my simple language, so that newbi in my country understand it. sorry my english is not good.
Of course. If you feel you could do a good job in translating and they’d be of value to those in your country, by all means, feel free to translate whichever of my posts you feel would be of value to your community.
And do please post a link to the translations in the original posts, so I can make sure to support and upvote... 🙏
Thank you for your approval. It will soon be done. Actually you are close to our country because you have been to Bali. :)
I'm a budding actor on this platform, about a month ago. I was very upset while reading the content of your conversation, meaning I made a post that sometimes just expecting a vote like a street beggar who has no self-esteem.
The purpose of all this shows that I can move quickly to the top level. It turns out what you have changed my way of thinking. thank you for your enlightenment, very useful for me especially.
For the next I will try to use fishing rods to look for fish, not to expect fish that can run out in one consumption, of course also make more beautiful fishing from now on, and I will also preach to other steemians friends to stop begging. be yourself useful to others again, thanks @rok-sivante
Your openness and willingness to learn and course/correct is an inspiration. 😊🙏💓
(Though perhaps gently educating rather than “preaching” might be more effective...? ;-) )
because I am motivated and I think it is worth sharing with my friends. I hope to get permission to be translated in Indonesian so that other friends understand your motivation. thanks, here's the link I've translated. :
https://steemit.com/indonesia/@teukurahmatakbar/pencerahan-bermakna-dari-rok-sivante-berikan-seekor-ikan-dia-makan-selama-sehari-ajari-seorang-pria-untuk-memancing-dia-makan
Did you make this same comment below with a different account:
?
Confused. Please explain if so...
I do not like to copy other people's comments. maybe you can see who first made a comment with the person you mean, and i only have one account. I've tried to be honest with you. the rest is only god knows.
In that case, I’m guessing the other user copied your comment. Very odd, and not cool.
I forgive him who tried to copy my comment. if you wish, please visit my page @teukurahmatakbar , there I try to post about this incident, so that later you can give input about my posting so that I more adept in using this platform. Thank you @rok-sivante
Your quickness to forgive is honorable.
However, I have flagged him for both plageurism and spam, as he copied and pasted the same comment twice, also on a different post. Unacceptable.
your decision to mark his act as plagiarism might make a deterrent effect for him.
That’s the point. Neither plageurism nor spam are tolerable here. Period.
One of the frustrating aspects of steem(it) indeed. When I made my introduction post on steemit I knew close to nothing about the monetary aspect and I didn't really care. From the replies on that post I, as a technicaly, guy quickly learned there was more than just content. I stared learning about bots, flag wars, whale (non) behavior, witnesses, shit content, ...
My current conclusion is: where money plays a role there will be leeches.
Your post is about the small leeches trying to suck out little money but as you most probably know there are those at a bigger scale as well. The thing is, it's easier to be a small leech than it is to be a big one and thus we have a feeling to be flooded by these smaller ones. But maybe the bigger ones are a bigger threat.
I started following your blog only recently because it talks about subjects that interest me (well mostly, of course not every post) and because you present it in a refreshing way. Lot's of text but it reads so smooth.
I'm sure a lot of people have learned a lot from your writings and I think it would be a pity to loose you here.
I don't have the same level of SP and thus I won't be attracting as much leeches. For a while I flagged them but that did no good to nobody and I quit doing that, too much negative energy. My current approach is to just ignore them and focus on 'the good ones' and supporting those.That has been my general approach in life and it gives me the best feeling. Money is just an aspect of life, but helping others is worth so much more. That's my main motivation for @steemmakers. I delegated most of my SP there because I believe it is worth a lot more to help those writers than to try and optimize my own voting returns.
I sincerely hope you don't let get these aspects get to you, they are not worth it. And when you think of leeches ... they die without blood being given to them, look at the bright side :-)
😊🙏💓
I try to listen to your writing, I slowly read it, trying to understand every sentence you write, knowing my English is not fluent, I come from Indonesia. Paragraph by paragraph I have read, I got a few sentences RUDE, Yeah at first glance the sentence looks RUDE. However, I understand that you are just trying to confirm that sentence.
Like the sentence below:
"If you come around asking for a follow / vote, how that translates: selfishness." Pure, repelling selfishness. "I want, I want, I want." "*
"And if such comments get copied-and-pasted across multiple posts = SPAM Outright deserving of being flagged." *
If not understood clearly, then there will be many people who feel upset when reading it. However, I try to understand it that it is a good advice.
I keep reading your writing, until I get a very meaningful conclusion after reading your post. There are many rules that you give, and I like all the rules. I myself am trying to improve the quality of my post, and hope every post I can be enjoyed and appreciated by others.
thank you for sharing, it's nice to be able to build this communication with you. greetings success, have a nice day.
😊🙏💓
I'll be totally honest here Rok
Unlike @imp.unity I see this platform as a way of making money.
Honesty is one of the things I value the most, and when I signed up on Steemit I didn't do it because I had nowhere else to blog, I did it because I was interested in the rewards... I would even go as far as saying that most of the users do it too.
Unlike those who say they don't care about the money and yet beg for attention, I say "yes" I want the money, as most of us, but Im not afraid to slave away to get it.
I post 2 times per day, I post every single day, and I have a pretty high comment daily average... and my comment aren't generic crap either.
Having said that... can anyone blame me? I'm contributing to the community, and I think Im adding a lot of value with my guides, the newbies I help (funny as Im a newbie myself) and the friendships I make.
Steemit is about this as a whole!!
It is NOT only about community building. It is Community Building that is sustainable and profitable - and THAT's the revolutionary part about it I think..
...what do you think?
The main reason I’m still here too is also for the money. So I’m not gonna pretend like it’s not.
However, there’s a big difference between learning the rules of the game and earning through gcreating value* and begging for handouts that aren’t deserved/earned.
You’re on a great track, as you get it. your comments are always personalized, thoughtful, and add something interesting that’s a pleasure to read. This is exactly the type of content that entices me to come visit your blog and upvote the stuff of your I enjoy.
And these are the lessons that perhaps need be taught most here. The money motivations alone are no problem, just the strategy some attempt to go getting it with versus earning it through quality contributions.
Here's an extra 5 cents to buy that Vancouver condo then! To our success! :D