Reward Pool Abuse - Supporting Evidence - @lexiconical
Supporting evidence and links on reward abuse by @lexiconical using @nikez452 to vote comments before 6.5day window closes.
In his defense he says this account is his girlfriend and she is free to vote how she pleases and is by chance votes since creation go to his comments just before voting/downvoting window closes
Also states every post/comment he makes is undervalued and deserves more rewards.
255 threads 5992 comments $6.91 K rewards.
https://steemtracked.com/
54.3% of Rewards from @nikez452 = $3.72K
13.7% from selfvoting = $946
http://www.steemreports.com/incoming-votes-info/?account=lexiconical&days=140
585 votes ÷ $3.72K is average voting of $6.35 mostly on comments
http://www.steemreports.com/outgoing-votes-info/?account=nikez452&days=120
@nikez452 created on July 26th delegated 38,232.434 from @lexiconical July 27th immedatley starts voting comments on the last day
https://steemd.com/@nikez452?page=50
Examples of first comments
I believe this is enough to support my claims on abuse of reward system by @lexiconical if any one has any problems with what ive posted maybe something is mistaken,please let me know.
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I cannot agree that being upvoted consistently by someone that you have a personal relationship with is abuse. @lexiconical does produce high quality posts, and engages the community without regard for rewards, rather focusing on social issues and matters regarding Steemit and the blockchain, even bold comments that offend panderers and Steem pumpers.
YMMV.
on comments that have little value?
there is many in the community who could give him rewards
it is abuse of system and reward pool by voting this way
whether he has a relationship with someone or not
each is an account one is used to vote up every comment
if he wasn't so greedy and directed voting outwards to reward content creators hed probably be receiving rewards from others not only himself
There are accounts which I follow, and occasionally, or regularly, upvote, that you may find the content there of little value. I respectfully decline to award you authority to determine who I vote for, and I reckon you'd return the favor.
@lexiconical isn't running a bot farm, and while you think the upvotes from @nikez452 are for trivial comments, they may have significance to them you are not aware of, for reasons, or just because they like them and want them to succeed at something that means very much to them.
There are lots of reasons people communicate as they do, and upvoting is communication.
You may not like it, and I may not regard those comments as worthy of my measly $.02 vote either, but I also don't think it's abuse.
Botnets are abuse. Your friends and loved ones consistently voting for you, even for your least and most inane comments, isn't.
there is a big difference between given a few cents and voting every comment $4+
@lexiconical takes $50+ a day on comments from doing this
every comment is voted since creation of @nikez452
here is an example of on of the first comments voted on
nobody can argue that comment has even a 0.01c value
yes having another account vote every comment is abuse and is the same as having botnet to steal rewards as content creators lose rewards to low quality comments voted the last day to protect from flagging
I submit you are wrong about being upvoted for every comment by a loved one being abuse - and it doesn't matter what the amount of the upvote is, as the value of their vote depends on their investment of cold, hard cash in SP.
What if I liked you so much that I upvoted your every comment? While you'd make, like $.11/day, which you clearly recognize isn't abusive, would you say it was abuse if I had 50k SP?
@nikez452 isn't @lexiconical, and he isn't abusing anything. If you have a complaint, you have a complaint with her - but only because you don't agree that she is voting as you'd like.
While I'd rather be receiving those phat upgoats myself, I'm not jelly.
I think it's sweet.
But, it's also not abusing the rewards pool if well to do gals love their man so much they just love everything they say, and upvote it. It's her SP, that she didn't mine, that wasn't delegated to her, that she invested so she could vote exactly as she wished!
I ain't got nuffin' agin' it.
Edit: nm. was gonna add something, but I've said my piece.
I tossed you a 100% upvote because I agree with you. Maybe that's also rewards pool rape.
Thanks!
I just call it as I see it.
Look out, I just made you both co-conspirators.
I'm going to point her to this thread later today to make you two even bigger co-conspirators.
this made using my vp today easy
good keep flagging also less rewards for you :)
loved one or not both are steemit accounts who is behind them is irrelevant
with that logic i could get a loan give to 10 Family/Friends to invest 12K of my own money to upvote my comments every day for $100 a day taking rewards of everyone else for nothing
steemit is supposed to be an incentive platform based on content
if every "investor" did this there would be little rewards for content creators which would decrease traffic and future investors
investing steem to steemit for the sole purpose of extracting rewards from the system is abuse whatever way he wants to call it
abuse is concerning the % of reward pool taken 0.11c for every active user on 10 comments a day wouldn't even be 10% of rewards
$5 would be half of the reward pool
if @lexiconical/ @nikez452 didnt think it was abuse way wait until before reward window closes to avoid flags
"investors" who use steem to extract rewards vote farming comments are the reason steem is continuously decreasing in value as content isn't rewarded with reward pool depleting so fast genuine content creators see payouts disappear before there eyes
yes you can use steemit to extract as much as you can from system at the expense of everyone else and the future of the platform
It does matter who's behind the accounts.
If I upvote every comment you make, does that make you a rewards pool abuser?
Does it make me one?
The answer is NO, on either count.
If you owned both accounts, THEN that might be abuse - albeit measly, $.02 abuse.
@lexiconical has done a lot for Steemit. In your research you must have seen many, many of his erudite, well-written, helpful posts.
How you can characterize him as a rewards pool abuser, I cannot fathom.
I advise you to retract your allegation and apologize, because you're wrong.
@lexiconical is a pretty nice guy. You might find that out, to your benefit.
Or, you can continue to be wrong, and pay the price for being unrepentantly wrong about a very beneficial Steemer on the indelible, permanent blockchain, for everyone to see, forever.
I'd think about it, if I were you.
Don't argue with this troll, he is always right... he would never give up..
you said it was a loved one behind @nikez452 account voting @lexiconical.
this is irrelavant.
bottom line,both are associated accounts using stake to abuse reward system.
your argument stating the posts hes made are helpful so he has privilege to do so is a big problem with steemit.
investors and witnesses who abuse the rewards system using work done as granting privileges over other users to spam and abuse the platform.
you realize content creators give value to steemit not investors.
investors give funds for the incentive system which should be distributed to content creators which would drive traffic increase new users and future investors.
have you ever heard of a company where investors take what they feel they deserve from the budget,
no because this will destroy potential of any growth.
It's kind of pointless to continue with you, but considering her introduction to Steem was JerryBanfield videos, it's not all that surprising it took some time for her to learn how to curate comments properly. Given how much more work that is, I don't judge her vote placements.
Had you actually bothered to look at her history, you'd see she used to do almost all of the comment rewarding on my threads (mostly for my readers and commenters), which were very hefty. Thanks to her, we used to reward (sometimes several times) more to the other readers/commenters in my threads than the whole article would pay out. I didn't have enough SP to do this, so she did it on her account. Being a math type, she quickly saw how much more curation she made from voting comments (they are usually past 30m + 0 votes). When I got more stake, I mostly took that over, and she mostly went back to Reddit.
Add to that the desert of inactivity the last few months, and the majority of my comments in the last 2 months comprising 1 sentence garbage or spam, it's not too hard to see why she stopped taking the effort to find the one useful comment I'd get every other witness report or so and just started following my comment feed and using Steemvoter.
I don't know why I'm bothering with this, you aren't interested in the facts.
If this wasn't personal for you, you'd find actual abuse to focus on, for even if all your wildest allegations were true (and, they demonstrably aren't, as your story keeps changing) there's no abuse here.
Since I know I've wasted my time on you, I'll make sure she votes this comment so I'm not just pissing into the wind.
Go do something productive. Or, since you probably won't, why don't you tell me how much we've transferred out of Steem so far ($0, and $1000 SBD I took out after having in for a week because I need to send some SBD to some projects)? Then, you can compare that to how much we bought in for (~$1.50), and you'll quickly see that the reward pool is raping US...to the tune of probably well over $50,000 so far. More like $200,000+, if you count the fact we were holding BTC before Steem.
You have no idea who even pays the rewards around here, do you? Here's a hint: it's us.
if you worked for the platform instead of exploiting the rewards system you could steem grow in value not be a part of devaluing
when did she use voting for this?
Why don't you use your time to make a post that really helps Steemit? I thought you were joking at the Poker tables but now I just realized that you definitely might be a detective wannabe! You should use those detectivishh skills of yours on people that are exploiting the system for real, live and let live. I haven't seen you at the poker tables lately btw; why is that? Cheers!
reward pool abuse is a serious issue and helping to make unprofitable in anyway is much more value to the platform than any post might be
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- Mahatma Gandhi
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The irony of you using the bot I delegate over 5000SP to at the Minnow Support Project to get almost the only rewards this post has received is palpable.
I'm returning this 1.17 to the reward pool. (Lol, that way I can farm it! /s)
@minnowsupport paid 0.02c on this post
ive returned rewards from your upvoted comments and will continue to do so with your spamflaggin evidence on reward pool abuse
also you "donate" for voting from @minnowsupport bots
Yes, I just responded to this account with nikez's account. Whoops.
I do keep both our accounts logged in on the same computer.
Edit - Leaving this here so you can have some fun with it. I past links for her to check in firefox, while I stay logged in on Chrome. I had already placed that link here for her to see, and I just used the wrong window.
You can enjoy yourself now.
https://phist.steemdata.com/history?identifier=https%3A%2F%2Fsteemit.com%2F%40nikez452%2Fre-isacoin-re-lexiconical-re-isacoin-reward-pool-abuse-supporting-evidence-lexiconical-20171121t141441583z
Yeah, you'll note I already re-wrote this comment before you posted this.
To reiterate the point I put in the wrong window on nikez's account:
Those are reward bots that the moderators place you on if you are a delegator, I don't "delegate to get rewards" from those bots, I delegate to whatever bot they ask and some of them upvote me.
What are they, like 20 cents? I notice you didn't point out the amount in this case.
whatever way you would like to phrase
Did you bother to look at how many times my auto-voter has voted for those bots, to see how much I've actually made? Did you bother to look at how much I've delegated, and how much more I would have made by keeping it?
Your crusade is getting pretty weak.
This will hopefully be my last response to you.
I actually know how you feel, but you will never paint investors with massive losses as "rewards pool abusers", and I've earned every reward I've ever taken and then some.
If you want to see why I don't get bent of shape when nikez votes whatever comments get her through another day of VP relative to what she thinks my effort is, look at my past attempts to stop real abuse:
https://steemit.com/curation/@lexiconical/exposing-advertiser-circle-jerks-in-trending-reward-pool-rape-and-bookingteam-com
$200+ per post for literal cut and pastes of their own plagiarism from the day before. Nobody cared. Nobody helped. There is so much real, rampant, abuse on the platform, how am I to tell any investor they should not use their stake in a way they want?
If you want to see how much value I bring to the platform, had you bothered to read my blog for the past few months instead of rant at me, you could be a millionaire with Bitcoin Cash by now:
https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@lexiconical/segnot2x-mark-my-words-the-2x-of-segwit2x-will-not-happen
Quit trolling.
regardless you demonstrate the same paying yourself $50 a day on low quality comments helping damage the system .
you dont say in your post to buy bitcoincash nor entry or exit points for trades nothing on investing.
all you say is segwitx2 wont happen and it could be bullish for bitcoincash which was obvious eventually due to already being heavily manipulated with cheat mining and controlled by so few.
now had you followed my trading advice for two month you would have made over 103% gains
https://steemit.com/trading/@isacoin/bitcoin-trading-103-9352-gains-in-2-months-from-7-trades
now had you followed my trading advice for one month you would have made over 103% gains
https://steemit.com/trading/@isacoin/bitcoin-trading-103-9352-gains-in-2-months-from-7-trades
Nice job. I reporting some to but nothing is happend.