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RE: Reward Pool Abuse - Supporting Evidence - @lexiconical
I cannot agree that being upvoted consistently by someone that you have a personal relationship with is abuse. @lexiconical does produce high quality posts, and engages the community without regard for rewards, rather focusing on social issues and matters regarding Steemit and the blockchain, even bold comments that offend panderers and Steem pumpers.
YMMV.
on comments that have little value?
there is many in the community who could give him rewards
it is abuse of system and reward pool by voting this way
whether he has a relationship with someone or not
each is an account one is used to vote up every comment
if he wasn't so greedy and directed voting outwards to reward content creators hed probably be receiving rewards from others not only himself
There are accounts which I follow, and occasionally, or regularly, upvote, that you may find the content there of little value. I respectfully decline to award you authority to determine who I vote for, and I reckon you'd return the favor.
@lexiconical isn't running a bot farm, and while you think the upvotes from @nikez452 are for trivial comments, they may have significance to them you are not aware of, for reasons, or just because they like them and want them to succeed at something that means very much to them.
There are lots of reasons people communicate as they do, and upvoting is communication.
You may not like it, and I may not regard those comments as worthy of my measly $.02 vote either, but I also don't think it's abuse.
Botnets are abuse. Your friends and loved ones consistently voting for you, even for your least and most inane comments, isn't.
there is a big difference between given a few cents and voting every comment $4+
@lexiconical takes $50+ a day on comments from doing this
every comment is voted since creation of @nikez452
here is an example of on of the first comments voted on
nobody can argue that comment has even a 0.01c value
yes having another account vote every comment is abuse and is the same as having botnet to steal rewards as content creators lose rewards to low quality comments voted the last day to protect from flagging
I submit you are wrong about being upvoted for every comment by a loved one being abuse - and it doesn't matter what the amount of the upvote is, as the value of their vote depends on their investment of cold, hard cash in SP.
What if I liked you so much that I upvoted your every comment? While you'd make, like $.11/day, which you clearly recognize isn't abusive, would you say it was abuse if I had 50k SP?
@nikez452 isn't @lexiconical, and he isn't abusing anything. If you have a complaint, you have a complaint with her - but only because you don't agree that she is voting as you'd like.
While I'd rather be receiving those phat upgoats myself, I'm not jelly.
I think it's sweet.
But, it's also not abusing the rewards pool if well to do gals love their man so much they just love everything they say, and upvote it. It's her SP, that she didn't mine, that wasn't delegated to her, that she invested so she could vote exactly as she wished!
I ain't got nuffin' agin' it.
Edit: nm. was gonna add something, but I've said my piece.
I tossed you a 100% upvote because I agree with you. Maybe that's also rewards pool rape.
Thanks!
I just call it as I see it.
Look out, I just made you both co-conspirators.
Randomly found this thread from a Google search of all places, but this comment is perfect.
I'm going to point her to this thread later today to make you two even bigger co-conspirators.
this made using my vp today easy
good keep flagging also less rewards for you :)
loved one or not both are steemit accounts who is behind them is irrelevant
with that logic i could get a loan give to 10 Family/Friends to invest 12K of my own money to upvote my comments every day for $100 a day taking rewards of everyone else for nothing
steemit is supposed to be an incentive platform based on content
if every "investor" did this there would be little rewards for content creators which would decrease traffic and future investors
investing steem to steemit for the sole purpose of extracting rewards from the system is abuse whatever way he wants to call it
abuse is concerning the % of reward pool taken 0.11c for every active user on 10 comments a day wouldn't even be 10% of rewards
$5 would be half of the reward pool
if @lexiconical/ @nikez452 didnt think it was abuse way wait until before reward window closes to avoid flags
"investors" who use steem to extract rewards vote farming comments are the reason steem is continuously decreasing in value as content isn't rewarded with reward pool depleting so fast genuine content creators see payouts disappear before there eyes
yes you can use steemit to extract as much as you can from system at the expense of everyone else and the future of the platform
It does matter who's behind the accounts.
If I upvote every comment you make, does that make you a rewards pool abuser?
Does it make me one?
The answer is NO, on either count.
If you owned both accounts, THEN that might be abuse - albeit measly, $.02 abuse.
@lexiconical has done a lot for Steemit. In your research you must have seen many, many of his erudite, well-written, helpful posts.
How you can characterize him as a rewards pool abuser, I cannot fathom.
I advise you to retract your allegation and apologize, because you're wrong.
@lexiconical is a pretty nice guy. You might find that out, to your benefit.
Or, you can continue to be wrong, and pay the price for being unrepentantly wrong about a very beneficial Steemer on the indelible, permanent blockchain, for everyone to see, forever.
I'd think about it, if I were you.
Don't argue with this troll, he is always right... he would never give up..
you said it was a loved one behind @nikez452 account voting @lexiconical.
this is irrelavant.
bottom line,both are associated accounts using stake to abuse reward system.
your argument stating the posts hes made are helpful so he has privilege to do so is a big problem with steemit.
investors and witnesses who abuse the rewards system using work done as granting privileges over other users to spam and abuse the platform.
you realize content creators give value to steemit not investors.
investors give funds for the incentive system which should be distributed to content creators which would drive traffic increase new users and future investors.
have you ever heard of a company where investors take what they feel they deserve from the budget,
no because this will destroy potential of any growth.
Bah! You mischaracterize my statement. I did not say that @lexiconical should be privileged to rewards because he's a great guy.
I said he's posted great content. His rewards are derived BECAUSE he's a great guy, and that's why he posts great content.
And that is exactly what @lexiconical does.
I reckon I am done with this conversation. I doubt anyone will read further than this that hasn't already made up their mind.
"bottom line,both are associated accounts using stake to
abusecorrectly reward"FTFY.
"you realize content creators give value to steemit not investors."
Wrong, and irrelevant, because I'm both.
I pay the bills around here, so that you have a bridge to troll under. Slink away while you still can.
It's kind of pointless to continue with you, but considering her introduction to Steem was JerryBanfield videos, it's not all that surprising it took some time for her to learn how to curate comments properly. Given how much more work that is, I don't judge her vote placements.
Had you actually bothered to look at her history, you'd see she used to do almost all of the comment rewarding on my threads (mostly for my readers and commenters), which were very hefty. Thanks to her, we used to reward (sometimes several times) more to the other readers/commenters in my threads than the whole article would pay out. I didn't have enough SP to do this, so she did it on her account. Being a math type, she quickly saw how much more curation she made from voting comments (they are usually past 30m + 0 votes). When I got more stake, I mostly took that over, and she mostly went back to Reddit.
Add to that the desert of inactivity the last few months, and the majority of my comments in the last 2 months comprising 1 sentence garbage or spam, it's not too hard to see why she stopped taking the effort to find the one useful comment I'd get every other witness report or so and just started following my comment feed and using Steemvoter.
I don't know why I'm bothering with this, you aren't interested in the facts.
If this wasn't personal for you, you'd find actual abuse to focus on, for even if all your wildest allegations were true (and, they demonstrably aren't, as your story keeps changing) there's no abuse here.
Since I know I've wasted my time on you, I'll make sure she votes this comment so I'm not just pissing into the wind.
Go do something productive. Or, since you probably won't, why don't you tell me how much we've transferred out of Steem so far ($0, and $1000 SBD I took out after having in for a week because I need to send some SBD to some projects)? Then, you can compare that to how much we bought in for (~$1.50), and you'll quickly see that the reward pool is raping US...to the tune of probably well over $50,000 so far. More like $200,000+, if you count the fact we were holding BTC before Steem.
You have no idea who even pays the rewards around here, do you? Here's a hint: it's us.
if you worked for the platform instead of exploiting the rewards system you could steem grow in value not be a part of devaluing
when did she use voting for this?