SteemWorld ~ Weekly Support ~ #36

in steemworld •  12 days ago  (edited)

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This post is intended to cover the server costs for SteemWorld.org and to enable me to continue my development in the future.

In case you missed the first part:
SteemWorld ~ Weekly Support ~ #1

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Dieser Post ist dafür gedacht die Serverkosten für SteemWorld.org zu decken und mir in Zukunft weitere Entwicklungen zu ermöglichen.

Falls du den ersten Teil verpasst haben solltest:
SteemWorld ~ Weekly Support ~ #1

Updates


Coming Curation Rewards


I'm glad to announce that the calculation of the Coming Curation Rewards is now way more accurate than it ever has been before. The biggest deviation I observed so far with the new logic was 0.001 SP.

As the reward pool is constantly changing (also with each payout itself) and I'm partially working with cached data that are being refreshed in a minute's interval, I'm fully happy with that result.

Link IDs


As we now have link IDs like psfmf4 for comments and we can no longer see what's inside without opening the link, I added a shortened summary text for incoming votes in the Account Operations section:

The label of incoming votes for comments is now Vote Comment and for root posts it is Vote Post, so we can separate them better.

As it goes for incoming comments, we can now also hover over an incoming vote to see the comment's summary without opening/expanding the operation's row:

In case of a root post it will show the title of the post in there.

No more mentions from 'Ignored Accounts'


As I wrote in one of my last posts, there is an option in Settings to define accounts, which we don't want to see in the Account Operations. In case of someone massively spamming your posts with bot-comments (as FTG's @animalcontrol does with thousands of comments per post) you will need this, because otherwise SteemWorld will get extremely slow to work with.


@fulltimegeek: Please let's find a solution for the mess and stop spamming the blockchain! You are harming Steem and, since you are an important part of it, your are harming yourself. If you believe that some players are destroying Steem from inside, why are you taking part in it instead of supporting the good things, which we still have here?

Remember the words:

What we focus on is what becomes powerful...

The good ones are missing you, the real geek.
Please think about it ;)

Thanks!


Steemit Inc. released a public abuse list for filtering abusive accounts a few months ago. If your account is being targeted too, you can just copy the content of that file into here:

I recently added the required filtering functionality also for incoming Mentions and for the Replies tab in the Post Details. Since my account is being mentioned every 15 minutes by @steem.organic whenever I have an active post, I needed to do something about it.

More details in System Info


I added a few missing fields in the System Info tab:

The reason I called it Curation Burn Period is, that many Steemians still don't know how much of a post's payout goes to the author. In the current version of Steem it's always 75%. Of course, if there are any beneficiaries set, they will receive a part of that.

25% of the payout is being distributed among the curators (voters) and the burned/lost part (when voting before the 15th minute) will just stay in the reward pool. So, when voting at 7 minutes and 30 seconds after the post has been created, only 50% of the voter's voted rshares are being considered for calculating his curation reward.

Have a green week (still possible)!

In the making

   ( A )


  • Responsive Design for mobile devices
  • Post Viewer and Editor
  • Steem Data Service (SDS)
  • Theme Builder
  • Starting a witness node

   ( B )


  • Different views, no limit in the Posts Overview (requires SDS)
  • Account Operations without limits, custom date ranges and filters, jump to day x (requires SDS)
  • Exact (separated SP, STEEM and SBD) All Time Rewards in the Stats Section (requires SDS)
  • Rewards Overview Tool with searching capabilites (requires SDS)

   ( C )


  • RC costs calculation
  • Downloadable SteemWorld that can be run locally
  • More details in Coming Rewards (number of posts/comments, pie charts?, filters?)

Links


EN  |  What is SteemWorld?
-> Welcome to SteemWorld.org!

DE  |  Was ist SteemWorld?
-> Willkommen auf SteemWorld.org!

Thank you for supporting my work!


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Much love,

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Server Upgrade


In case steemworld.org should not be reachable within the next few hours, don't panic, my web hoster is currently upgrading one of my servers.

The work should be done by Wednesday, 5. June 03:00 UTCat the latest.

I totally forgot to prepare for that. Too many things in my head recently...
Sorry for the inconvenience!


Falls steemworld.org in den nächsten Stunden nicht erreichbar sein sollte, keine Panik, mein Webhoster aktualisiert gerade einen meiner Server.

Die Arbeit sollte bis spätestens Mittwoch, 5. Juni 03:00 UTC erledigt sein.

Ich habe total vergessen, mich darauf vorzubereiten. Zu viele Dinge in meinem Kopf in letzter Zeit...
Sorry für die Unannehmlichkeiten!

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Dann weiß ich nun wieso es nicht geht und kann beruhigt schlafen gehen xD

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good luck, hopefully the upgrade goes well

yes its still down on my end.

btw, just like your name says, CHILL :) dont get too stressed out :)

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Thank you for keeping us so informed and updated! Your site and service is so professional, you are a great asset to our community.

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hahaha, ich dachte meine prepayd karte ist schon wieder alle im ersten moment xD

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I started to get worried that there were some major problems =X

Fortunately You informed here, so no more panic xD.. Take all the time You need ;)

Also, a big THANK YOU for all the good work You've done until now!!

All the best,
Cy

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Thanks for the heads up!
Hopefully this upgrade goes smoothly.

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Works again for 5 minutes now. :-)
Glad to have found an announcement here. :-)

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Thanks for the heads up. I was wondering of your site had been blocked by IT in my office.

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I first thought it was my ISP, but then checked here.
Thanks, as always, for the great work and the clear sense of direction for all the features.
I hope you are well :-)

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It's 6:29 UTC now and it's still not working. Any idea how long is this going to take?

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Does SteemWorld still not load for you? It should work since ~ 12 hours... Maybe it's related to a DNS caching issue and your internet provider's DNS didn't refresh yet (should do that automatically after some time, can take a few hours depending on the configured interval).

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It works fine, thank you. Got back to normal half an hour after I posted my comment. I'm going to check the accuracy of the curation tomorrow.
Thank you for fixing it, it's the most important tool one can have!

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I was worried for a bit as I cannot live on Steem and engage without it!

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Und jetzt wissen alle we sehr wir uns auf Steemworld verlassen!!
Danke dir dafuer!!

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Hoffentlich funktioniert es bald wieder, bie dahin ein !BEER

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To view or trade BEER go to steem-engine.com.

Hey @steemchiller, here is your BEER token. Enjoy it!

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Well it still doesn't work here (tried chrome, brave, firefox whatever). Always says connection timeout

Anything could be done at local machine?

You are a genius!
I hope all users will give you a witness vote, once your witness goes live.
MIRA is out, so your excuse for not running a witness node does not count anymore ;-)

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Exactly! I am impatiently waiting for him to get his witness going so I can throw my vote at him. If anyone deserves to be a top 10 witness it is @steemchiller!!!

The Website Is On
if it still not working for you yet do the following:

  • in your phone disable the mobile data for a while then enable it again, if it fixed line turn off the main router for a while then turn it on again(Recommended)

  • Use a VPN or change your DNS

well I was thinking it's my ISP blocking me from accessing to it while it's on and you @steemchiller tell us next time before you do something like that because today I lost without SteemWorld.org, it's my workspace for everything hehe

at the end, we all appreciate your efforts ;)

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hey, @cityofstars.

Thanks for the troubleshooting tips. I don't connect via mobile, so I did unplug the main router for a bit with no results. So, I've been using TOR and it seems to work great. Maybe Safari will work after I reboot the computer but I probably won't know that until tomorrow morning.

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checkout @steemchiller latest post and download the zip file of steemworld

Hi @steemchiller

You know I have a friend @jga Julian who did a Check-Votes program with specific characteristics, I wanted to see more than three decimals regarding the voting and those who actually voted compared with your application and I see that the behavior of both are very I looked like the link Check-Votes

I congratulate you, I really like the improvement

Greetings from Venezuela, a country that fights for its freedom

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As usual, great work, dear Chiller!
Concerning the "Link IDs" I'ld love if you also found a simple (?!) solution to show the shortened content for 'Curation Rewards' and - more important - 'Author Rewards'. Not really necessary but if it's simple to develop (! 'simple' is important - since I have no idea about the outlay !) it might be one click less for some thankful users... 😊
Never mind - do what's most important for you!
Liebe Grüße,
Chriddi

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Thanks for the idea @chriddi! I'm working on it and it's already done for the Coming Author Rewards. I want to have that for the Coming Curation Rewards, Mentions and a few other features too.

I'm also thinking about adding kind of a 'post link popup' that shows up after few seconds when hovering the mouse over those links (like the one for the author links), which shows a few more post details. Not that important currently but a 'nice-to-have' feature for the future...

LG, Chiller

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Wie immer unterstütze ich Dich gerne und sage viiiieeeeeelen Dank für deinen Einsatz 👍

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Very limited time @steemchiller, but great as always to read the "latest, greatest" on my favorite Steem app.

Thank you for embedding an appeal to FTG in this post. A lot of good people are still being hurt, so we'll see what response you get.

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P.S. While waiting for your server to be upgraded, I had no choice but to go back to what I used prior to learning about SteemWorld - steemd. Not to speak ill of those not present, as I'm sure they did their best, but ... And no question it does work and better than nothing, but ... Sure glad I found out about SteemWorld! 👍

Thanks for the (unintended) reminder! 😉

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I did the same and agree with you. It is something but far from what we need and far from this tool.

Hi @steemchiller,
I like the way you’r following with your development, things are going smoother and new info is quite useful.
About that issue I spotted of the info not being refreshed after a day change I can tell it’s sorted if there was such issue as you pointed out on your last post. Anyway any change you’ve made it’s been seemless as I have been checking out.
Thanks so much (again) for your regularity and resilience on these hard times.
My best wishes for your week, cheers

wird ja wirklich von woche zu woche immer besser und ausgeklügelter :-)

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To those who still have the problem connecting to steemworld:
I had the same problem on my machine and discovered I could connect from my phone. So I made a hotspot from my phone and tried to connect from my pc -> problem solved.
I suppose it's a local DNS cache problem. I cleared my PC DNS cache but that didn't solved the problem. Next thing I'll try is to clear the cache from my router...

EDIT: problem is now completely solved by rebooting my router!

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Thanks for your help!

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Well, cleaning DNS + rebooting router didn't worked here. Still same issue

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@steemchiller
I can't reach steemworld.org either. Tried from at least three different networks. No luck :(

Can you, by any chance, give us the IP address?

Hi @steemchiller,

Just a little question... I noticed that in the overview of the coming rewards (author rewards, not the curation rewards) you not longer display posts and or comments under a certain amount. (I suppose the "dust-votes")
Will it stay that way or is there a setting somewhere I don't know of?

Keep up the great job! I think I spend more time on steemworld than on steemit itself :-)
Thanks for this wonderful tool!!!

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Yes, the dust payouts are no longer in there, because they are not really 'coming rewards'. But I told to myself:

If someone notices the change and leaves a comment, you should add an option in Settings...

So, there we are... ^^ I will add it with the next update ;)

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hahahaha, I'm sure other people also noticed that, I think I was just a (little) bit more impatient :-)

I find it very useful to see the comments where someone gave me a small upvote. People with low SP are most of the time new and are not aware of the dust-vote concept. The least I can do is find these upvotes and upvote them myself above the dust-value... at least they then get some curation...

Thanks again for the good work and the ultra-quick reply :-)

Just dropped in to say thank you and truly appreciate what you do

https://steemworld.org is down and I am completely lost :(

Is some reindexing taking place?

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Hi @ervin-lemark

I feel the same, totally lost
Now we see how important steemworld is to us when we don't get the page up

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Me too, it's down for me too in Asia, but we should be patient. It's strange that steemworld.org works on my smart phone but not the PC. I used my PC to upgrade to the newest version and everything went kaplooey. We miss the site!

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Yes, we do miss it. I guess it was available for a moment and now is down again. Eh, now I am using Partiko to see the notifications. But for everything else ... steemworld.org is the only option!

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Aha, server stuff. OK; I'll try to be patient :)

Nice, I love the hover over vote comment feature. It will save so much time.
Thank you for your hard work and relentless continued development.
Take care and stay positive.

The site is still down for me on my machine, I can't even ping the IP. I am able to ping it from a remote server.

I notice both have the same IP, I initially thought it was an DNS issue.

I've asked around and it seems some can access and some cannot access.

Any idea @steemchiller?

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That's interesting. I checked the availability with https://www.uptrends.com/tools/uptime and it's working from all checkpoints. I don't block any IPs, so maybe something is blocking your connection from a central point near you.

I've heard there have been many ISP issues all over the world lately and many people can't sign in to their bank account (mainly US, even big banks)...

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I've asked around and it seems 50% can see it 50% can't.
I surely can't.

I really doubt it has anything to do with "ISP issues all over the world". This is very specific to your host I'm going to guess (and would put money on if I was to bet).

I did a trace route, and the problems are very close to your ISP. This looks like an issue with your provider.

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Agreed, @steemchiller

Check your Certificate, it's not configured correct. That's why ISP providers are blocking.

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Certificate (I assume you mean SSL) wouldn't cause an ISP to block it, nor would it cause it to be unpingable. This looks like a networking issue. There is some route that is down near his host, or there are firewall/routing rules blocking some people.

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Yes, looks like a networking issue, but I still don't believe that it is coming from my hoster. What's the last reachable point in your tracert?

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I don't have it front of me as I closed it, but some france colo.

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Seems to be a local DNS cache issue. @pixelfan was able to solve it by resetting his router.

Whatever my hoster changed, the way it was done was not really professional in my eyes. I will take further steps...

Priority for realising a 'Local SteemWorld' has changed today.

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PING 37.17.224.60 (37.17.224.60) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 37.17.224.60: icmp_seq=1 ttl=34 time=100 ms
64 bytes from 37.17.224.60: icmp_seq=2 ttl=34 time=100 ms
64 bytes from 37.17.224.60: icmp_seq=3 ttl=34 time=100 ms

--- 37.17.224.60 ping statistics ---
3 packets transmitted, 3 received, 0% packet loss, time 2001ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 100.676/100.689/100.707/0.366 ms

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I can ping from one of my servers, but not my machine. I am not the only one who can't access it so I know it isn't limited to me.

I believe it is networking related (routing/firewall) and the fact his provider just did maintenance is awfully suspicious timing.

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Yup, I feel handicapt... without steemworld...

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Check my latest comment hereunder...

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Same problem for me here...
I still have a working version in a browsertab I didn't close during the night. Other browsers can't make the connection...????

25% of the payout is being distributed among the curators (voters) and the burned part (when voting before the 15th minute) goes to @null (back to the reward pool)

Going to the reward pool and going to @null is not the same thing.

Going to @null removes the rewards from circulation, and shrinks the overall size of the reward pool, by returning to the reward pool the rewards are redistributed and increases the potential rewards to all other authors and curators with pending payouts.

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Thanks for explaining! Didn't think about that but it makes sense of course. I will correct it ;)

We feel like an orphan, who was abandoned, left at the station, completely forgotten))) We are waiting for the return! Successes!

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Does SteemWorld still not load for you? It should work since ~ 12 hours... Maybe it's related to a DNS caching issue and your internet provider's DNS didn't refresh yet (should do that automatically after some time, can take a few hours depending on the configured interval).

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Let's wait, I tried to download on a smartphone and on a computer, so far, it does not work. Many thanks for the response!

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Maybe @cityofstars's answer can help you to accelerate the process ;)

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Looks like folks were having issues while mine was working earlier. Now this is what I'm getting:

Screen Shot 2019-06-05 at 8.10.54 PM.png

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My hoster is currently investigating the issue. I'm prepared for whatever comes. If it won't work for all users in the next few hours, I will upload a downloadable (local) version of SteemWorld to a few different servers.

That one can't be stopped and it will work on any device in the world. A few minor things like the currency conversion would require some adjustments to be made, but the most part is stable out of the box, as always.

Now I know, why I planned for (and prepared long time ago) a local version of SteemWorld :) Have a nice day!

(My vote will come later, because I need a small rest...)

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I just appreciate that you're on it, so thanks for that. Since others with trouble earlier getting onto steemworld seemed to be able to now while mine did the exact opposite I figured I should mention it. Kind of odd how this is playing out, but no worries on my end. Thanks for all you do.

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Hallelujah! On the smartphone, I see! I see the statistics! This is a good end of the day!

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man try my solution as @steemchiller told you if it does not work both of them try to use Tor because when I was having this issue I used Tor and then it's works later on I did the recommended solution as I said here

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Thank you, I tried to change everything, reset the cache and much more I did, but the only site that does not work on my computer and phone is yours.

Maybe there are more options, how to fix the problem?

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Hello @steemchiller
There is always a bigger difference in the specification of the final payout of a post.
E.g. have a look at my post https://steemit.com/steembasicincome/@retinox/upvote-game-c-round-56-win-3-shares-for-your-steembasicincome-with-every-post-reglas
Steemit says: 2.24$
Steemworld says:
Payout Total 2.291$
Do you know where the difference comes from.
Thank you!
@retinox

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@steemchiller
I just saw the details on steemworld:
Payout Author 1.718$|75.00%
Payout Curators 0.518$|22.61%
The sum is 2.24$ (rounded) like on Steemit.
Is 22.61% right? shoudn't it be 25%?
If you assume 0.518$ is 22.61% and calculate that then 25% would be 0.573$ your total payout of 2.29 would be right.

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Hi, it is very rarely exactly 25% - usually less though can also be more. It is often less because those voting before 15 minutes lose some of their curation rewards. It can also fluctuate depending on the price of SBD, whether higher or lower than the encoded $1.

Third party sites may also differ from Steemit depending on whether they are using the blockchain price of STEEM or market prices.

mmm... had a deeper look for you and looks like Steemit now publishes post-rewards as actually the post-payouts, hence deducting at source the lost curation rewards. I find that annoying! But it explains the discrepancies. So $2.29 was your post-rewards, with $0.05 lost curation rewards. Note that the author-rewards of $1.718 are also 75% of $2.29.

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had a deeper look for you and looks like Steemit now publishes post-rewards as actually the post-payouts, hence deducting at source the lost curation rewards.

Exactly! I guess most platforms currently show the net amounts for paid out posts, because the nodes return that as total payout. I recently changed it on SteemWorld, so that the missing part will be added afterwards by calculating the burned payout as follows:

nBurned = ( nTotal / AUTHOR_PERCENTAGE ) - nTotal - nCurators

where AUTHOR_PERCENTAGE = 0.75

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Yes, I noticed ages ago you show the % burned, which is a useful gauge of how much early voting happens.

BTW the curation rewards lost are not actually burned, that is, they are not sent to null, they are just left in the reward pool. people often say they are "returned to the reward pool" but that's not quite right either - they are just not taken out!

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Thanks for your comment! Yes, the '% burned' is still not being shown for paid out posts currently (only added to the total payout), but I will add it also for those posts in one of the next versions.

It's all a bit confusing in the current UIs. Maybe we should find a better title for 'burned' like 'lost' or 'ineffective'. Might even be better to change it completely on all UIs and show also the coming payout amount always without the lost curation shares, because it's not really the correct coming payout when part of it will never be paid out anyway... :)

In that sense the 'total payout' that is being returned from the nodes after payout is correct.

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Oh yes... thank you @accelerator - that's a good explanation for the discrepancy.

Good work you are doing for the community. Thank you.

How are we supposed to survive without steemworld while the server is being updated?! Aaaaah!!! Jeez, I'm so used to use the site that I feel naked without it! 😅

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More like blind in my humble opinion.

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Blind and naked! hahaha

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Good thing it's fixed now.

The most effected and great development of steemworld, its alwalys give us more confidence and assurance to use this platform, i am happy to use this one. Thank you very much.

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Just wanted to say 'thanks' for all the great work you do on SteemWorld. It's a tool I use everyday now!

More fantastical well mate what a great site I use it most days thanks a lot for keeping it running!

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looking forward

Voted, though from my little power. A few days ago I made an elementary consultation, but I did not get an answer. I suppose you are very busy. Greetings and thanks.

Keep up the good work!

@steemchiller
Sir, I have been using your SteemWorld site now for a few weeks and as a result I have decided to donate to you in a few hours time.
I just want to thank you for creating such an info site, its amazing.

A little worried this afternoon when I suddenly couldn't get to SteemWorld... but read your comment about your hosting service, and all was well again. Just goes to show how much I have come to depend on SteemWorld for my overall navigation and enjoyment of all things Steem!

Thanks for all your hard work!

=^..^=

This post has been just added as new item to timeline of SteemWorld on Steem Projects.

If you want to be notified about new updates from this project, register on Steem Projects and add SteemWorld to your favorite projects.

@steemchiller
Thank you, I dont know how you do it but I very much enjoyed looking at my information with just one click away and the best part is that I dont have to reload the page. Gracias amigo.

Keep doing amazing things! I fully support you and this project!

Du hast ein 100 % Upvote von unserem Curation – Support – Reblog Account erhalten. Dieser wurde per Hand erteilt und nicht von einem Bot. Wir, die Mitglieder des German Steem Bootcamps möchten die Deutsche Community stärken. Bei einer Mitgliedschaft im German Steem Bootcamp könnt ihr sicher sein, dass eure Beiträge auch gelesen werden.

N E U - jeden Donnerstag findet bei uns ab 19 Uhr die Quasselstunde statt wo du nicht nur mit uns reden kannst - es werden auch tolle Preise verlost

Du findest uns im Discord unter https://discord.gg/vTsTSrZ

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Ich wusste schon dass ich Steemworld brauchte, aber jetzt weiss ich dass es für mich Notwendig ist!!! 🤩

Still not loading for me :(

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Danke Dir für Deinen Einsatz!!

Und wie immer upvote&resteem

Congratulations! I just stopped by to say that your post has been selected as a daily Featured Post of my personal curation project! You can find the daily Featured Post HERE.
I upvoted your contribution and I put it on the list because to my mind your post is what I call a quality content!
I am @miti, a manual curator that shall make available all his Steem Power to authors deserving of support. Let's make STEEM great again!
Have a nice day and keep up the good work!

thank you for your awesome service to us! :)

Hi again, not sure if this helps isolate the problem but have this strange effect: I have browser tabs where steemworld is still open from before the server maintenance and within those tabs it is still running ok, but if I try to open a new tab or reload the page then get the usual error of connection timing out.

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Oh yeah, almost forgot, I tried to access a couple of other domains hosted on the same server and none of them are accessible from here.

Thanks for the updates.
It is good to know about the mentions.
and I like to be able to see summary of comments.
despite the problems of light and internet in venezuela I am happy that steemworld works well.

Congrets and many thanks for your very useful and unique site, steemworld.org.

Very nice work!! You are formidable!
Take time to have a good rest too!

Appreciating @steemworld every day. Thank you.

Congratulations @steemchiller!
Your post was mentioned in the Steem Hit Parade in the following category:

  • Pending payout - Ranked 8 with $ 79,86

Greetings from Dubai,

What we focus on is what becomes powerful...
@SteemChiller

A timely reminder. @SteemChiller
Well said.
And, we become who, what & how we behold!

Grateful for the work that you do.

Regards

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