This is Very Frustrating – Stop Blaming the Whales

in steemit •  5 months ago

Before I even begin my rant on this topic, I want to first point out I am a Minnow.  When I started out, I started out with nothing, just like the 99% of other red fish and minnows on Steemit.  The facts are, most of us start in the same way.  There are of course a few that made a financial investment very early after signing up, but for most of us, that has not happened.

Although most of us start the same way, we all take different paths.  Some people write amazing content, some people spend hours each day curating, some people lease their SP for profit and some use the rewards to buy more votes.  Some people cash out their rewards on a regular basis and some people use their rewards to grow their accounts and help distribute the power.

And its this last part I want to focus in on. Some people cash out their rewards on a regular basis and some people use their rewards to grow their accounts.

Working with minnows and redfish everyday is an eye opener.  Its can be personally rewarding but lacks financial rewards.  I know this because I do it, day in and day out.  Spending votes on minnows and redfish puts one on a backfoot when it comes to growing their SP and their account.  Voting on dolphins is way better for your pocket. 

 I am not dislike accounts smaller than me, I would like to get big votes and earn more.  I could always self-vote, and stop delegating power to other for free, that way I could earn more.  Or I could take all my earnings and cash out each week giving me the ability to support NO ONE..

And that is what I see a lot of.  Minnows and redfish taking their rewards out of steemit, which they are entitled to do, not growing their account, and then begging for votes, saying steemit is unfair and no one is helping minnows.

YOU NEED TO HELP YOU SELF.  YOU NEED TO INVEST IN YOUR SELF.

So here is where I am on this topic.  I have invested a lot of time in steemit.  This has enabled me to grow my steem power. I have powered up a lot.  I do this, so I can distribute wealth, not accumulate it.  The SP I have earned, I earned it just like you, but I did not cash out.

If you cash out all the time, you will not grow, you will not be able to support anyone.  Why should we support people that will never support others?  On steemit to give you must grow, you must invest in yourself.  Don’t expect people to keep investing in your if you will not invest in your self and you can never give back.

We all need to live, we all need money.  I have a family and 2 children.  I need to put food on the table and a roof over their heads.  If we all cashed out week after week, there would be no steemit and no one to support.  Lol if the whales cashed out there would be no one for the minnows to give out about.

So here is what I am saying.  Don’t expect others to keep growing their accounts to fund you.   Invest in yourself.

From here on in, I will be trying not to vote for accounts that do not invest in themselves and are takers and not givers.  I want to see at least a little effort made so that you can support back.  After all you want the support don’t you?  Well so does everyone else.  I see these accounts as takers that are not adding value to steemit.

It’s is not your right to expect others invest money in steemit to support your life style.  If you don’t invest in yourself, stop blaming the whales. 

If you are a redfish or minnow and are producing good content or are an awesome curator and you are making the effort to grow your account and power up, you will be noticed.  It may take time, but it will happen. 

EDIT:  I have written a follow up post showing how you can grow your account even with medium term thinking 

https://steemit.com/steemit/@paulag/how-can-you-increase-sp-faster-and-earn-more-liquid-sbd-steemit-growth-hack


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You bring up a great point about minnows needing to invest in themselves. I'm not as involved with minnows as you are ( and quite honestly, I don't care to be, not because I'm "too good" or anything, I just have a lot of real world responsibilities). So first, I just want to applaud people who spend a lot of time on here helping minnows, such as yourself.

Back on topic, minnows on steem are from all over the world. If you ignore the demographic whose rewards are a significant source of income, then you are left with a significantly smaller batch of users. This has a lot to do with the fact that many people on here are from countries where their $1 per post rewards could improve their standard of living to a measureable bit.

The next measure we need to look at in terms of active minnows is also age group. Undoubtly, all age groups are on steemit, but I bet the overwhelming majority of minnows are under 35.

Most of them have very little to offer to make steemit a better place.
This is numerically factual because the vast majority of people who have something to give are older, wiser and from countries where they have the ability to learn how to communicate in an effective manner (and this is a site thats built on communication after all).

For this reason, the demographic of younger users on steemit have a lesser understanding about self improvement. Take the case of the following thought test.

If a child (in this case a minnow), is told that they can have 1 ice cream now, or 2 ice creams at some point in the near future, say 2 hours. What do you think the child will decide, and how will you think their choice is reflective of their mentality?

Neither choices are right or wrong, its purely up to the social-ecological circumstances that the child was brought up in.

I could develop a thesis on the behavior of minnows, but to simply put it, steemit needs to have a more mature adult user base before it can growup.

Its facebook circa 2006, drunk beer pong photos and cute little cats, except this place is more like xanga if I had to compare it.

Nonetheless, great point in your blog. Unfortunately, the only cure is time and more users with more to offer and more centralized services.

(senselessly self upvoted for visibility)

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I tend to think that if you are cashing out on everything, it makes the platform more like a casino. People will be more likely to write gimmicky click bait trying to make max profits per post.

Everyone has their own circumstance, but to me, there really doesnt seem a point in cashing out if there is not a need.

I mean, I am still a noob and haven't seen more than a couple dollars in a day, it seems that as you get bigger more people pay attention, if only for the influence you carry...

The money factor should at most be kept on the back burner regardless. Unless you are someone well known who makes bank for blurbs.

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you are correct, there are many many minnows on steemit where $1 a day has an impact and steemit enables that. Although steemit enables it, it does not mean it is the right thing for the platform and those that do invest in the platform should have some benefit over those that don't. I see it that we do have a benefit and that is people take us more seriously and there is a better chance of the larger (human) votes.

As for the age profile, i was under the opinion it was higher than you suggested. Someone had posted a copy of the Alexa ratings before and it showed the age profile. Just looked Alexa up myself and I need an account to get the extra detail

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I tend to look at it from an external/internal point of view. We can benefit from steem if we earn tokens, but what makes us want to earn tokens? Is it the money aspect? Certainly its a massive component. But is there anything else to it?

Id like to see the alexa stats, but id take it with a grain of a salt. I want to know how they come up with that age group data. I tend to think most of the noise on here are younger crowds. In fact, if you ask most people who own crypto, why they own it. They give you a generic answer with no depth. If we take that idea and migrate it to steemit, most people dont know why they are on here other then to make a quick buck.

Even Dan Larimer realized it when he created steemit. When given the tools to self govern, people often make choices that are not the best for the community in the long run. I've invested thousands into this platform and minnows have largely destroyed my investment because of their poor understanding. But that doesnt mean that the platform sucks. It just needs services to lift it out of its current state.

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what sort of services do you think we are missing or under servicing?

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i could list a lot, but ultimately what it comes down to is to ask
what is the point of a blogging website where all you do is blog and give each other thumbs up or thumbs down?

Sort of a trick question, but the answer is that its functionally useless for the grandier scheme of things. Theres a billion more uses for the blockchain, but the first step is to create value beyond content.

There needs to be more reasons to exchange steem and SBD, to create an economy not just focused on externalizing the rewards (cashing out). If there is an economic incentive to keep the money inside for commerce or other reasons, then people are much more likely to see some functional use, other than talking shit and paying themselves to do it.

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if the 1£ can improve their living how will they even invest when to buy one steem is 2.6 dollar?

@paulag, thank you for helping to reiterate the fact that redfish & minnows have to grow their accounts. I am Nigerian, but sad to tell you that my country people are guilty of cashing out all their rewards without even thinking of supporting anyone in future. Meanwhile, I almost always power up to grow my steem power. Enough of the pity party! If they are not going to grow their accounts, then we stop supporting them. Period! Post reblogged & upvoted 👍

@maryfavour.

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thank you. thank you. thank you. Glad I am not the only one feeling this way

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You are not the only one, @paulag. I've said it time without number for redfish & minnows to grow their SP, but they come up with all sorts of flimsy excuses , telling me that I am not in Nigeria to experience the hardship. Well, I am home in Nigeria ,at the moment. It's true that there is inflation and prices of goods & services have increased, but people are still surviving.
Those who got delegated SP free from the likes of @donkeypong have chosen to remain minnows . Some minnows go to lobby for upvotes from @fulltimegeek, @thejohalfiles etc. Thanks to @fulltimegeek . He has upvoted my blogs a few times. I just look at all of them (redfish & minnows) who have refused to grow and laugh.
For about a year, I have supported #redfish in diverse ways through, @redfishpillar account. Some #redfish I placed on autovote were removed after about 6 months so that new entrants can also enjoy my support. I'm so glad that you are speaking out on this issue.

@maryfavour.

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the problems come when we remove them, the begging gets worse. but we need to make room for new people and you are right to remove them after giving them the time. I am proud of your efforts, wish more people were like you

This reminds me of a post I wrote a while ago: Hack Your Life in 3 Easy Steps!

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I just gave you a full vote because you were so much nicer than me in how you put all that. Lol, so needed to rant. I'm staying out of discord cos of the begging.

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Yes, begging is painful indeed. Especially not knowing whether the beggar REALLY neads that $0.5 upvote or he's just acting?

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if the begger needs it or not does not matter. There are thousand of new accounts each week, all looking for help from bigger accounts. yet this small accounts think they should get our support forever....

"If you are a redfish or minnow and are producing good content or are an awesome curator and you are making the effort to grow your account and power up, you will be noticed. It may take time, but it will happen."

Very patiently waiting here!! ;)

I get what youre saying completely! I see people everyday begging for votes. Then you go to their posts and its terrible! I understand the frustration from both sides. When I started here on Steemit, I didnt think I would be making a living by blogging my views or giving reviews or posting photography. I came because I could do those things and actually have someone read and enjoy it. Ive always said, we did this for free for years and years, why bitch about not making "enough" on a post. I hope one day I am able to do half of what you do to help the platform but until then Im gonna keep on keepin on! Write about what I love and growing myself and the people around me.

Hey, this was a good read, thanks for sharing!

From here on in, I will be trying not to vote for accounts that do not invest in themselves and are takers and not givers. I want to see at least a little effort made so that you can support back.

This. I love this.

Now, I'm the benefactor of the @asapers, a manual curation team that shares the rewards and so forth. We focus on minnows and newcomers. Anyhow, this is not a sales pitch so I won't go into any more details about the asapers.

That being said, I've been cashing out and I've powered down a few times since I arrived here on Steemit. I even power down right now due to some unforeseen circumstances, so I know the awesome feeling of using my earnings from Steemit in real life. It's a blessing.

However, I delegate 100% of my Steem Power to others (not during the current power down obviously), in an attempt to improve the overall experience on Steemit... And I can totally relate to what you've said here.

We've shared the rewards with ~160 Steemians and we have a Discord channel with well-more than 100 users already... But, I'm still getting bombarded with messages on both Discord and Steem.chat from upvote-beggars. People who're blaiming the "system" and people who're calling Steemit a lottery.

I give, and no matter how much I give, people always want more. They desperately need more. Such selfish behaviour is the opposite of the asapers mindset.

I wonder how many of the people I've helped, or the asapers have helped, that saves some of the rewards they've been generating since they got here...?

I might ask @abh12345 for that information in the future! ;)

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I actually changed my league of excellence today to include points for powering up.
People who're blaiming the "system" and people who're calling Steemit a lottery are the same people that have nothing to give yet want to take.

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I think i will do this too.

If you are active on STEEM you can power down a small percentage and withdraw some STEEM while still growing in overall STEEM power.

Think about it like pulling a salary from your own company. You don’t have to keep everything powered up or power everything down.

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fully agree, I just want to see people making some attempt. I get it that people need to live, but so do you and so do I.

Yes! I agree with this 100%! I think you get out of this platform what you put in. It’s so frustrating to see accounts complain about their small vote, and how they aren’t growing on the platform when they pull every single cent out. No one owes you anything, no one... make great content, do your thing and invest in yourself.. it’s the only thing that will work long term. I appreciate the rant, you saved me from having to do it haha.

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I am so happy that so many people agree with me. ranting is good for the soul. But now i gotta think about a solution :-)

Yes Paula Yes!!! I will follow your lead, yes... I've delegated in the past to people that where just cashing out and not building their SP, it angered me a bit, I won't lie...

But I've seen the light, and this is confirmaish... I'm done supporting takers.

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:-) its so hard to please everyone, but we can only spread our selfs so thin, that is why we gotta invest in those worth investing in.

Very interesting post @paulag.😊

I have no empathy for Whales who flag people to death for no other reason than a difference of opinion on not flagging unwitting followers, ..none! Why on earth would any one want to be here to have all their open posts targeted? Videos that took days to record and edit no longer appear on my account, courtesy of a whale. We also finished shooting an action movie, also, none of it coming here courtesy of a whale! I will no longer post anything that took longer than a few minutes and I won't pay some bot farm to have my stuff seen. In the mean time enjoy the one liner shit posts floating to the top on $100+ selfie votes.

Want good content? Protect it. Most don't give a hoot what happens to others as long as it doesn't happen to themselves. As a result some very good content creators are leaving, or have already left. How many accounts are there? How many of those are actually active? ..15%?

I like your sense of community support and agree with the principle, but I don't find much of it here. Instead I find upvote groups that don't venture out much, I find whales that selfie vote 10 times a day, and selfie vote again with their 14 bots.

(should I say, greedings?) Greetings!

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hay @onnovocks and thank you for sharing your concerns. These concerns are shared by many and that 15% really hit me hard and upset me. we are losing to many quality creators because the shit floats to the top.

But posts like this ( look at the engagement level) show that people want to interact and be part of social networking, and for that part, rewards are not the most important factor. Human touch is the key.

Its a pity you have bot found much community support, in fact I am surprised considering how well you are interacting

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When a cranky whale comes after you, people run and hide. I understand, but I don't have to like that fact. Didn't mean to upset you, but felt that sharing some of the figures I got elsewhere are relevant in the discussion. We aren't the only ones noticing people leaving or going inactive. Here is a post from @snowpea lamenting the loss of some folks whose work/presence she clearly appreciated: https://steemit.com/blog/@snowpea/to-the-missing-steemians

I personally also know some who have gone inactive and I know of one who announced an exact quit date. That's a shame, her writings, knowledge of languages and literature in general are brilliant.

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P.S. The engagement on this post is great indeed, lots of folks looking and thinking about this!
Thank you for your time,
Greetings!

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P.S. The engagement on this post is great inded, lots of folks looking and thinking about this!
Thank you for your time,
Greetings!

This article is very insightful, specially for me since I am minnow. And lately I have a seen a lot of steemit whales also talking about around the same point - about quality content, about bid bots, about abuse of SP. Your article also links up with that since, a newsbies may be the most frustrated as they can't hit the trending page, that may or may not always have good content. And complaints will include that whales are abusing the system and that good content will never fly.

I have also felt disheartened on a lot of days. and eventually i realised what you have said in your article. I have spent the last few weeks finding good content creators so that I see that quality content is on steemit and the right people are making money for their effort. And yeah, whatever penny I make, I power up. I want to invest everything I make today to grow organically, & patiently without bots - get genuine appreciation for what I write and increase my influence level.

Thanks for sharing your perspective. I agree with you completely.

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thank you for powering up! shows some people want to give as well as take. I understand people are disheartened but lets say you were an actor, and you went to hollywood, because you are new should hollywood give you the leading roles or should you have to earn them and work your way up? People think because they come to steemit and posts something that they are 'owed' by the whales and its really annoying

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True, i agree. Payoffs without any effort are impossible anywhere else and expecting that is stupid. But i think thats not what my frustration was. When one is new, one is not fully aware of how people are making money - call it lack of awareness or lack of any effort to learn about steemit. So while going through the trending page they see resteemed posts. One can conclude that people who have built a fan following or a follower base are getting upvotes.. similar to youtube or instagram or twitter. However, Its not all that.. there is actual junk as well. And thats when people get frustrated. And i dont think all the frustration is for the whales. It may be from initial failure, something that everyone faces - some leave it there, others do something about it and try something different. And people mostly do not expect things to be given to them for free. No one thinks steemit is a charity.

But i agree wholeheartedly with you. Whales dont owe it to anyone.

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off steemit I blog. So when I came to steemit, I knew how much work goes into growing a following and monetizing it. what works for me off steemit didn't work on steemit and I had to change my approach. if you want to make money from steemit, its hard and a lot of work has to be put in. Like starting any other business.

Awesome text :)
You found clear words and this kind of message needs clear words.
Keep on Steemin!

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I'm actually really surprised at how well this has been received. Im not so good with words sometimes (lol hence the data posts all the time)

Thanks for the encouragement, I will keep trying. :-) I've noticed that Steemit is a bit like capitalism in the USA. You can be a heartless capitalist and squeeze work out of underpaid employees, or you can be an amazing boss in the same system. As much as I would like to change some things about Steemit, there is still enough going right that we can be the change we want to see. Take care.

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Im also finding more and more of these amazing bosses on steemit, wish i could speed up the process for them

Nailed it, Paula. Excellent example of what you're talking about here.

I'm sure some people think me delegating SP for profit is a greedy act; (they've certainly told me so), what they don't realise is that I moved that money across from bitcoin specifically to lease out the SP.
Had I not done so (helping push up the steem price), none of them would have a problem with my conduct here, or any idea I had any bitcoin.
Ultimately I'm not too concerned as (unlike in meatspace) they have no way to 'redistribute' it by force.

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I'm not a fan of leasing SP either, but I am pro entrepreneurship. at least you were honest in the way you have done it, many people open an second account to lease out from and pretend....

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I wrote a piece in defence of leasing SP a few months back.
There are some positives passing unnoticed.

This is very true I agee 100% with your article. Many steemian earn they SBD then cash it out without doing power up. Consequently, the SP is not growing up. As a minnow who have vision, this is exactly what I am doing now... collecting as much as SBD to be powered up as SP. My goal is to improve my SP as big as I can... then I would consider to cash the rest of it. And I am thankful for mom @paulag who delegated me 100 SP for me for certain. This is helps me a lot to earn more from the curation field.

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:-) you will see your account grow and get attention much faster than those that keep emptying their pockets. and in time, when you are a big account, the money is still yours, and you can then pay your self a good wage by powering down.

Well said, totally agree with the sentiment!

Yep. Just don't hold your breath.

There will always be the much larger majority who will take value now compared to those who will reinvest in order to grow more later.

High time preference is the default human behavior. Deferring gratification is the unusual thing.

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'There will always be the much larger majority who will take value now compared to those who will reinvest in order to grow more later'

human nature I suppose. we need to find a way to encourage a change of thinking

i still thinking how to make minnows like stop thinking that they are victim here. actually no one invite them to steemit. they come here by their own initiative. so why complaining, i stop writing sometime when i got tired. the most sadful thing is every day even with 7 sbd in their pocket want to cash out. lol, i stiil waiting best time to power up. thank you @paulag for thus article.

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glad you can see this side of things @tfq86. I do understand poverty and the need to survive, but steemit can give a better opportunity if not seen as a free cash machine.

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yes your are right @paulag. i try to make friend with experience people in steemit to learn more from them. my knowledment about steemit still so low.

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learning steemit takes time, you seem to be a very fast learner. if there are any questions you have feel free to ask me..... although I find I am still learning too

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i know @paulag. but as long as we want to learn there nothing impossible right?
thank you for let me free to ask you.
i will do that if i get something questionable.

Great piece

I am not dislike accounts smaller than me, I would like to get big votes and earn more. I could always self-vote, and stop delegating power to other for free, that way I could earn more. Or I could take all my earnings and cash out each week giving me the ability to support NO ONE..

If you abstain from upvoting your own comments, then it can be profitable to delegate your SP to someone else for free. How? If that person always upvotes your posts at 100% power and upvotes even a single comment of yours, you are winning.

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i don't expect votes from those I delegate too. lol in fact I have never even checked to see if they vote for me and I am the steemit data geek. I bet there are accounts i have delegated too that hardly ever give me a vote, but I am not going to check because then they might feel under pressure to do so.

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What I'm saying is that you can benefit from delegating to others even if you delegate for free. If you want to be generous and expect nothing back however indirectly, then that's another thing.

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I do get something back. I was once delegated too. I remember how it felt. every time i delegate I get the knowledge that someone feels that way and thats it. its just that simple

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Sure, charity feels nice.

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it be awesome to do it in real life, walk around handing out 100 notes lol...that would feel awesome......

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Interesting post, thank you for sharing. Warm greetings from a height of 1300 meters

Why???
You have problem???
I hoppe, god bles you.
Regards minnow

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I have a problem with people begging for votes, blaming the whales on not sharing then they take everything out each week and put them selves in a place where they can not share. To me this is greed. this is not steem charity....

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yes that's human, mom. Greedy sifags have blinded their eyes. I am from the first to play profit @ good-karma with the application, otherwise I really have quit this platform, as if nobody cares about small fish, and forgive the little fish that think you can help them. but I will not beg for those who are not generous. let them fill their pockets. Sad. May you always be given health in the face of every problem. love you, mom.

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You are welcome mom

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Same with me. I always discourage steemian who beg for votes. I campaign a lot not to beg on a post, a comment or outside this platform. And for this... I have many haters who disagree.

... i guess maybe we take it for granted that for a lot of people in the world, persistence isn't a virtue, and that there are a lot of short attention spans out there wanting immediate "payoff"

I'm gonna need a pie chart to have this explained to me fully 😜

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I think your 99% chart you made the other day fits well for this ;)

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Yep, Paula wants a slice - and why not it is the weekend!

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funny fecker- but at least you didnt upvote your own comment ;-)

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Some point this year I might have to! I'm waiting on @kevinwong to give the green light for Full Asshole mode 😁

Naa, I'll just have to find a real job I guess, boooooo

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lol I read his post, and agree, we need solutions and we all gotta get our thinking hats on

Do you think adding incentive has caused people to take advantage of the system steem has provided? It sounds like you propose there is a flaw in the system. With that being said what do you suggest for a solution to this problem? People will take notice of your opinion.

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you are right, its no use me just ranting. we need a solution. Something to incentives long term thinking. Turning on my spreadsheets now to do some calculations on it.

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I have been learning the steem ecosystem but usually that just brings more questions than answers. Isn't the power down over 13 weeks the "block" set in place to discourage short term thinking?

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lol yes, but the majority of accounts take payment 50% 50% and then cash out. I think the high price of SBD encourages short term thinking and kills off any effect of the 13 week power down.

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just raised another question. Still so much to learn. Thank you for treating all as equal.

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we are equal, there is no need to thank me for that. i am no better than anyone else on the planet....

pity the whale 😂😂

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pity the whales is right, they get so much crap for investing in the platform, I wouldn't blame them if they emptied their accounts and crashed the price of steem. then where would we all be. its easy to blame others. Take control and stop blaming. ah it feels good to rant

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a reality that often happens. very in pity if the pope is blamed. whereas the popes have worked hard and spent a lot of capital for something better but they did not think about it, even saying the wrong thing.

And that is what I see a lot of. Minnows and redfish taking their rewards out of steemit, which they are entitled to do, not growing their account, and then begging for votes, saying steemit is unfair and no one is helping minnows.

This is the first time I have heard of this @paulag.

A couple of weeks ago I came across someone who has a genuine rep in the 70s but was complaining about not earning enough on their posts. i was really surprised because most people I've come across with reps that high are doing very nicely. So I went to look at his account and was surprised to see that they were taking "money" out as fast as they could earn it. So in effect he was making himself a minnow!

I've not come across it anywhere else though. Most people I get to hang out with are all still trying to spread the love or build their Steem Power.

From here on in, I will be trying not to vote for accounts that do not invest in themselves and are takers and not givers.

I think this is a great move. I wish more of the orcas and up were a bit more discriminating too.

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the engagement experiment I am doing, while going through accounts manually its rather easy to see how many people are engaged in this activity. its so hard to try and change mindset, so its time for me to take the hard approach and just say NO MORE.

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Well. I for one am backing you on this @paulag!

Blaming is job of idle persons! They don't look at their limitations, rather search for flaws in others. Steemit is the most generous platform to hard workers but miser in same extend to idle & plagiarists! Those who have intention to be rich overnight, steemit is bad for them! Let's grow with our own capabilities and it will bring sustainable success. Thanks @paulag for focusing on this reality.

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reality it is, but to some its an insult. These people need to wake up

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May be I am blessed with such quality! In my failure, very firstly I search for my faults behind it & in maximum cases I find that, I myself is liable for my failure, so I prepare myself again. Tnx for your prompt reply @paulag.

It's not that I want to be critical, so don't take it like that. I just have 2 questions.

How do you know so many minnows power down? Normally you queried some data as prove.
How are you going to determine who earns your upvote and who doesn't?

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I tend to keep track of people I am supporting and if I have given a few votes to someone I tend to look further into their accounts. I'm rather nosey

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I like that. Can you let me know the outcome of you ever investigate me?

I still have the feeling that someday there will be someone that tells me I should see a shrink 😋😜
Perhaps you can determine from my Steemit account, cause in real life no one gave this advice yet....

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Haha awesome, im sure there is an algorithm to detect that 😂

I like your rant and kind of thought that they will get you sooner or later. We all are human. Just curious of who they are - the list, please. Just kidding. 😂

You know where I stand on this these days and I am going to take it a little further even. I have given out thousands in rewards over the last 6 months yet so many of the accounts I have supported are still with only their delegations. If I had focused, I could have helped a few people really make a difference in the future. Sad, but true.

It is not that I am going to forget small accounts, I am just going to think much longer term than I have been and making changes so at least I will know there are a few people here that will always travel far together. This is not a charity site, it is an economy and requires people thinking economically for the future otherwise there will be nothing to support it.

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"is an economy and requires people thinking economically for the future otherwise there will be nothing to support it."

Well said @tarazkp. Its all good an well supporting small accounts but there has to be a certain level of future thinking

OK I have a couple problems with your post

  1. what is a " redfish"
  2. I have been beat up on comments the past two days on people powering down instead of powering up their acct. I pushed the power up idea that is what minnows should do after seeing your report the other day . Kinda makes me feel like I don't understand being poor or hardships . And I am kin to both
  3. You took my today's post and did a far better job then what I have so far in draft . Cut and paste most of your post is OK right as long as I don't copy the whole thing , right ! ROFL

What you are saying here needs to be said . over and over until it sinks in . I have changed my votes already in the direction that you stated above last week .
The reward (payout) for supporting minnows hurts the bottom line of those who do . That is so true , but doing the right thing hardly ever is rewarded in monetary value . I will not stop but we do need to be selective

👍👍 Paulag

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redfish are less than 500SP. I understand hardship and i want to help those less well off than I, but we can only bring a horse to water, we can not make them drink. you are ahead of me if you changed your votes already.

Powering up is also the only way to re-distribute the power.

"You took my today's post and did a far better job then what I have so far in draft" - were you going to post the same thing? Dont let this post stop you. I have found people copy and pasting my posts before, lol, and me being me, gave and upvote and nicely asked them not to do it again

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I'm still working on my post . I am slow I like to call it deliberate . It was your post the other day that clicked with your stats . so I took your lead and added it to what I was already doing .
I would never cut and past I would be to embarrassed and if you gave me an upvote on it hell I just give you my key the shame would be to much :)
wow I'm a red fish LOL didn't know that . well yes and no
thanks Paulag

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ping me when you post is done, i would like to read it. Please ping me here on steemit and not on discord, I might miss it as spam on discord lol

Well said @paulag! I see steemit as a microcosm of the real world where a sense of entitlement is running rampant. Somehow, there's a lot of people who feel that they deserve all the benefits of this platform without actually putting any work into it. Wrong!

From here on in, I will be trying not to vote for accounts that do not invest in themselves and are takers and not givers.

I think that will be my new motto as well :)

Thanks for an awesome post!

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hay @lynncoyle1, hope you are good and thank you for coming over. when our wave of minnows emerges as orcas Steemit will be the most awesome place in the world

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@paulag I think you are right!! I see Asher's League as evidence :)

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(sent with fast-reply...need to find out what this is)

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@paulag, check out my latest post. I discovered this a couple of days ago and have a new crush for sure 😂 I'll be very curious to see what you think of it since I really value your opinion!

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hay @lynncoyle1, hope you are good and thank you for coming over. when our wave of minnows emerges as orcas Steemit will be the most awesome place in the world

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That is so true!!!

(not sure how I missed this comment, and actually, I thought I responded to it.)

well said paulg but how to become a good curator? :)

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we need more good and great curators. But we also need to incentive's them more

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yea but how can i be one buy more SP and vote is that all?

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good curation is not just about the vote value, its about helping gain more traction for that post, you could resteem, share on facebook, twitter, reddit. And then there is also commenting and engaging with the author. From all the questions i have asked people, they want to see discussions on their posts. Obviously not all posts create a want to engage with comments, but you get where I am going.

If people spent their SBD on Steem on the internal market, they could power up much faster.

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Yea i do thanks

well said paulg but how to become a good curator? :)