Where have all the upgoats gone? - The state of the BooststeemCreated with Sketch.

in minnowbooster •  11 months ago

Hi everyone! We wanted to take a moment to address the concerns many of you have been expressing both on Steemit and in our Discord Server.

At the current moment, Minnowbooster is unable to supply upvotes requested between 0.03 SBD and 11SBD. We understand, this essencially eliminates most of you from being able to call on Minnowbooster to upvote your posts. We'd like to apologize, and give a little insight into what is happening to cause this gap.

As you may know, Minnowbooster is the only system that currently guarantees a profitable return on your boost. However, there is a lot of back end math that has to go into making that work.

At present, Minnowbooster holdings and delegated SP combine to make almost 3 million SP that we can utilize to vote. If you go to steemnow.com and start playing with the slider, you will quickly see how that Steem Power can become untenable with calls for lower Boost requests. We simply cannot slide low enough with the main account to provide the appropriate boosts for the incoming requests.

In order to continue to provide the service we aim to offer, we have begun the process of vote buying. As explained in Minnowbooster needs your vote, we are utilizing member votes to fulfill requested boosts, and paying those members for the use of that vote.

Unfortunately, all of the members who have signed up for the service, who have the voting power to fill in the gap, have gone below the Voting Power they have set on their sliders as allowing us to buy their vote. Our Vote supply is exhausted.

Supply is not able to keep up with demand.

So our voters need to rest until they can support new votes, or new voters need to sign up for the service and come on board. We need voters of all sizes to help us fill the gap. Please read How Much can I make selling my vote to Minnowbooster for a overview of the profitability of participating in the Sell your Vote market.

Our team is working tirelessly to find a solution to create more opportunity for Boosts across all SBD ranges. In the meantime, we ask for your patience, and if you or someone you know might have the ability to participate with the Sell your vote program, every sign up for this program helps us continue to support the community, while also providing you a Steem payout!

Thank you for your continued support as we work on providing the most benefitial tool set on Steem. Despite our growing pains, we continue to move forward to provide the services you need to succeed on Steem!

What can MINNOWBOOSTER do for you?!

Buy upvoteSBDEarn an instant return
Lease SP from marketSTEEMIncrease your vote strength and curation rewards
Delegate SP to marketSTEEM POWEREarn daily STEEM dividends
Invest STEEM in MinnowBoosterSTEEMEarn daily SBD dividends
Delegate SP to MinnowBoosterSTEEM POWEREarn daily SBD dividends
Sell your vote to MinnowBoosterVOTING POWEREarn SBD share of sells


Minimum Upvote0.01 SBDMinimum SBD you can send
Upvote comments?Can Be Enabled
Profit at 100% VP2.5 timesCheck VP at steemnow.com
Daily Limit15.0 SBDMaximum you can send in 24h
Weekly Limit50.0 SBD7 day maximum
Minimum SP Lease1 STEEM
1-3 Week Lease1 STEEM/75 SPPrice per week/Lease size
4-24 week Lease1 STEEM/150 SPPrice per week/Lease size

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How about the fact that you're raping the reward pool to the tune of $200 almost daily now with these bullshit posts? Would you like me to completely kill off your service? If so, please continue doing what you are because you're very close to me doing so.

It really wouldn't be hard for me to start countering everything your service does. How would your customers like that? Pretty sure they wouldn't want 50+ flags every time they receive a vote from you.


I think it's being forgotten, that the whole reason that @minnowbooster was created by @reggaemuffin, was because all of the "boosters" available on the market had a negative roi... and MB wouldn't be so successful if there wasn't such a huge gap left by the competition. I'd be happy to say that there are other boosters who do a better job than MB, however, it's just not true. They spread 90% of profits to a diverse group of investors, where every other bot owner simply keeps the profit, and don't offer a good return.

The @minnowbooster team is very open to suggestions and constructive criticism. Which other bot owners have a customer service department? These guys care about their customers, that is the reason they are successful.

So I expect you will now flag me to oblivion for sharing my opinion, and I will have to accept that. But I will not be silenced by fear of your flags anymore.

Simply offer the community a better alternative to @minnowbooster, and they will go away of a natural course. I'd love to have a list of boosters that I could trust to answer complaints, that offer a reasonable roi, and that do something with their profits besides keep them.

Buildteam is a business, run for a a profit, but they are the most socially conscious of all the boosters on the market, and I'll be happy if you prove me wrong.

mostly I expect you to flag me for disagreeing with you. :bow:


Money comes first, the richest more rich and minnows get squeeze! Where are we going?


Out of all honesty I'm using minnowbooster with the idea to Hold the fck out of anything I get. The issue is that everyone is just cashing out and greeding for the benefit of profits. I really want to build SP to be part of something in the future, but I must agree the voting services are wrecking the fck out of steem now. Just because they are almost all that is left as a way to get some SP. The thing is that The less you get the more you push to be a better content creator and that has to be respected.

I think your comment made me think about using any bots in the future. Hope things get better because the potential of steem lies in the future, what we get now is just a taste.

Much Love ♡


I agree with you. When I started I just wanted to earn dollars, now I post my blogs to get reputation. Its a big difference, only those can understand, they actually change their self.


Actually, they recently reduced ROI, so people would use it more for advertising and visibility than as an investment strategy...


I still don't fully understand the whole concept of handing out upvotes worth more than the purchase price lol

In order to continue to provide the service we aim to offer, we have begun the process of vote buying. As explained in Minnowbooster needs your vote, we are utilizing member votes to fulfill requested boosts, and paying those members for the use of that vote.

Is this going to be opt-in or opt-out for your “members?”

Also - why do you continue using “member” votes on your posts here when you have paid subscriptions and other revenue models via your various vote and delegation selling? I think it’s time that you reconsider socializing your costs and simply further lining your pockets with the limited rewards pool. With the high fees that you charge for your voting/delegation “services,” and apparently with such high demand, you don’t need to continue this practice.


I think you are mixing steemvoter and minnowbooster here? Obviously selling your vote is opt-in.

I am happy to discuss with you on how to improve the current situation.


Steemvoter and Minnowbooster use the same votes on their “daily upvote” posts - because it’s the same person behind all of these “businesses.”

But you know this.


Well but that is different from sell your vote. I thought you accused us of selling the votes of steemvoter users???

And yes this is a steemvoter subscription post as stated in the footer. We can discuss about your concerns, once we got the terminology right :)


The terminology hasn’t changed since January/February when myself and others brought this up to Ricardo. It’s more of the same BS. You guys have actual revenue models - and the cuts that you take are not small. I think it might be time to stop socializing your costs via the reward pool on essentially repetitive content.

Since business is booming, why continue this...unless it’s just because you can? You claim to “boost minnows” while simultaneously taking from the limited pool as much as you can on a daily basis. Add the costs of vote-purchasing and delegation renting, plus the stake-vote dilution with the many voting and delegation schemes, and it’s kind of hard to see any “boosts” for minnows as a whole at all.

Not that all minnows necessarily need “boosting” in the first place.


This is mixing multiple concepts. There is the SV vote on announcements and there is minnowbooster.

The SV vote is something we can probably fade out. The visibility it gives is no longer needed all that much.

The minnowbooster model is something that sprung a lot of discussion the last week and I'd love to read a post about it, if you have the time to write down your opinions. The steem community needs to look for a consensus there.


I’m not talking about the “new model.” The only reference I made to that was regarding the opt-in.

I’m talking about using the votes of your Steemvoter sign-ups to upvote your SV, MB, and BuildTeam posts. Stop attempting to make it seem as if I’m the one conflating things here. I know the difference between the services and the voting schemes. And this isn’t our first interaction about this very topic.

Jesus Tap-Dancing Christ...

Are all of you on this “team” shady/dishonest/disingenuous?


I'll probably get slamafied, but thank you for those comments. Personally I have muted most of the minnowboost (boasting) bots. But this is steemit, and there really are not many rules. People can sit around and watch the rewards pool be raped, or they can try to do something about it. I view your conversation as trying to do something about it. So thank you. I would give an upvote, but I am trying to conserve rebuild to upvote the content I truly enjoy. My apologies.


The SV vote is something we can probably fade out. The visibility it gives is no longer needed all that much.

We'll try it the next post without the SV vote.


I am leasing my SP to you and getting nothing. Delegating 150SP and today I got 0.008 SBD. Is that a joke....

Seems fair. I don't really have a problem waiting till i have 11 sbd saved up though. Just takes a while.


I will have to check minnowbooster website but last time I checked most minnows were capped at 5SBD. My new daily limit say 0.4 and they don't cover that amount :(

Thanks for the update and its amazing. you have increased daily and weakly limit.
thanks alot @minnowbooster .

i started using your service and its amazing. keep it up thanks

Thank you for sharing...upvoted and followed!

I wish I can help. I too was unable to use minnowbooster. I want the supply vote to be around $3-$7 but this is not possible now. The plea for the vote lease also does not attract enough. This is due to the large minnows here.


We tweaked some settings and we have a full vote range, but will be depleted very soon... we had an internal chuckle that it's like Black Friday with the crazy demand we are getting, not a bad problem to have I guess.

You could create some aditional accounts and delegate some power for the medium size votes.


Yes we want to do that, we just need to code it so those accounts will give a return to the investor. The temporary stopgap is than an investor can create an account himself, delegate however much he wants to it and then register it on our bot market. I have done that with @kamikaze and @steemdrive, those are my personal bots.

I really enjoy your minnowbooster service! Thanks for all your hard work to boost this minnow!

Why has no one mentioned yet that minnowbooster ain't working atm? No upvotes been made since this announcement came.


Thank you for pointing that out @cleverbot I was reading through the post and I was thinking to myself didn't the post say basically for minnows it is over for now? They are focusing in on their "whitelist" and all we can do is sell our upvotes and use other services atm. Isn't it the gist of this post? Correct me if I am wrong. I have been using minnowbooster service to help build SP and I also allow them to use my vote so I hope everything gets cleared up.


Ahhhhhh are you sure? Because I've disconnected your phone service.


Actually this comment was addressed to the issue they had when the post was just made, not being able to use any upvotes at all from minnowbooster itself (except for a few smaller vote values from the selling services). As I understand, the gist of this post is ment towards people selling their votes for people that dont have the money to buy higher votes, cause minnowbooster itself can't provide it due too such high SP.


Sounds scary


Very, lol. Seems they raised it to 20sbd (daily limit) to fix it temporary.

Minnowbooster can resolve this by repleace the SP deligated to it and ask only for the usage of 'sell your vote' option!

When will things return to normal in terms of voting returns?

If I had a much higher vote power, I would allow mine to be used. I hope you can get all the help you need to once again be the dominant up vote that I use to help boost my SP. Thank you for letting us know, and for your services!


A little help from me...upvoted

That's what i am talking about bro., great response and very fast indeed.

--Thanks you are great as i suspected.





Damn she is hot


Feels more like whalebooster at the moment... "Minnowbooster is unable to supply upvotes requested between 0.03 SBD and 11SBD." What kind of minnow has 11 SBD laying around.

Take a note of @randowhale on this one and contain your voting power in 2-3 separate accounts or something. Or take a note of @pharesim that uses his vote at 0.02%. Way more stuff that can be done and is already done by others.


we don't have control over the SP ourselves and voting at 0.02% is effectively voting at 1% what effectitvely is a 2% vote. Like we are telling for a long time, steem rounding is tricky :)


hi @minnowbooster please i sent to your wallet 0.040 sbd and in the memo i write this post but i do not yet received any up vote from your side https://steemit.com/pokemon/@rezzouk.elabiad/dans-les-salles-le-5-novembre-aux-etats-unis-pokemon-le-film-je-te-choisis-revient

Is Minnowbooster service dead? I ususlly receive upvote instatnly but this time I have sent 10$ and got nothing back. @minnowbooster



Did you ever get your upvote or money back? I didn't see this post before I sent 4SBD to @minnowbooster I never got an upvote or refund.


No, i still didn't get anything back. As i can see on https://steemd.com/@minnowbooster they are not upvoting anyone recently, something is going on...


Great....Hope I at least get a refund. Upvoted your post


I'm (or was..) a user of Minnowbooster service, but recent events got me thinking if we really need of upvote bots like @minnowbooster or other upvote bots.

The unconsidered use of them, create a gap between new users and rich one.. "minnowbooster withelist" is the proof. Trending posts and hot posts are fullfilled by user that can access to this service... something goes wrong. Money win over quality...

This post written by @acidyo:


is a very interesting read...

That are true :)

Spanish version of this MinnowBooster publication / Versión en español de esta publicación


Excellent work!

Hello @minnowbooster

I really appreciate the efforts of the minnowbooster team. You are really trying all your best to keep the community going.

What about if the team find means of delegate SP to another account to be able to handle the small and medium size votes in order to maintain the VP and to reduce the burden of the team.
Thanks for your up and doing.


I still don't understand how this works..

Thank you . for this explain .


So much math involved. I thought I was finished math after grade 11 calculus haha. When did the comment upvote start?
Also, is the white list full yet?

good information bro. I hoop you upvote and following me.

Clearly understood. Thank you for the update

Thank you for this explanation, I remain grateful for all that @minnowbooster has done for the community on tha Steemit!
♥¸.•°”˜˜”°•.✫ B★E★A★U★T★I★F★U★L ✫¸.•°”˜˜”°•.♥

I'm glad I'm come across your post this morning, I have only been on Steemit for just over 60 days now. Getting used to the system, creating posts etc.

But, this whole business of boosting is my next chapter of Steemit to get an understanding off how it works.

So, thanks for sharing and I'm looking forward to reading through the rest of your posts :)

I would like to help here, but unless a miracle happens with my SP, I will not be able to do anything I think one month from now on at least, as one needs to have at least 200 SP to participate. Maybe if you would lower that stage, users with lower SP will be able to help. Wish you the best!

nice share

Thank you for sharing:)Upvoted and followed!

Ouch. I hope soon you guys can solve that situation. Not that i have ever used your service but i know a lot of people does.

I have also registered but its hard to understand the rules of steemvoter. Can you please clear this so thatpeople like me can understand it properly. Thank You


Hey, you can speak in realtime to one of our support mods at our discord channel, please click the blue button on the post above for redirection thereto.

Nyc Post!! I like your Post!! Keep Sharing!!

Aprecio la ayuda que ustedes dan con este metodo.

thank you so much for the amazing, all the best my friends

good information for all members so we understand the complete minnowbooster updates and we do more

I nice bro one

Oh common.....@minnowbooster .......I am great fan of you in terms of bot service ...but some how i think u r losing ur grip and also sliding from peak...the following are the reasons :-

(1) At one point of time u had round off issue for that the right calculations did not work and for that u brought up "sell your vote" feature. It did work for some time and also along with that MB was voting even with 1% or 2% to accommodate the medium range vote also.

(2) Not to forget the bid is not limited to round off integer or numerical its in the range of 0.01 to 5 so it can be of any decimal place, so now u cant say that u have the issue of giving the exact upvote....rather simple be transparent and say that u r not going to upvote for common man rather u will do the service for ur whitelist only and u will only serve the common man thru ur "sell ur vote" feature. Sir the people around do understand very well about the every intention behind the screen Dont take this as a blame. Even while writing these, i have great respect for you people. U r still the best in terms of bot service, but somehow u r losing the grip. And just take this as a healthy criticism, not to mention healthy criticism makes some one better.

(3) Now coming to your "whitelist". Thats a great service for the genuine writer to kepp the ROI bidder on check. But while u say that minnowbooster (the main bot) is for all...then u r hiding the truth....i have been closely watching the voting regim of MB itself, its is purely fro whitelist people, and in order to doze the common man u r focusing on "sell ur voter" but trust me this trick will not work.

(4) We should talk about quality content but while u manage those quality bidder u must also manage the average bidder who does not intend to make an ROI. They are also asset to u and have been using ur service since long. But somehow u people are making ur reach with a limited number people, but u r forgetting that democracy does prevail in steemit also. It may not reflect instantly but at some point of time u would realize its effect.

(5) I request you not to take personally...there is no such issue...i just highlighted the broader issue. And i myself will be off from steemit for next 3 months. So I have nothing to do with the ongoing issue. I just narrated what i observed from last couple of days and most probably its the noise of a common steemian and u must address it in a proper way.

All the best sir. My best wishes are always with u and ur team.


MB can't vote smaller. But I raised the general limit so all can use MB again.


you forgot about mine its lowered to 0.04 :(

supply upvotes requested between 0.03 SBD and 11SBD

That explains why my friend who sent 5 SBD was unable to get vote.

nice post

Truly there is really crazy demand ...

Nice thank following

hello MB - thanks for the great service - i paid for a upvote on this blog yesterday, and it has not come through as a upvote, please upvote or refund , many thanks , David - https://steemit.com/cryptocurrency/@daydreams4rock/imagine-a-crypto-coin-backed-by-a-specific-amount-and-value-of-sapphires-could-i-develop-this-as-a-smt

I'm curious why STEEMIT is allowing to legally do immoral work/things

​Am I missing something? So everything was fine, I was using your service with pleasure and happy when you were raising daily and weekly limit. My articles could get into hot in some tags and bigger audience could see my posts. Then you started to change algorithms, limits etc . Not so much profitable but I was happy agai ​ because you were the only service who could provide such a big vote.
Then, shortly you are introducing delayed voting after 15 min and explain that it is made for a sake of content quality.
Again, ok maybe it is a good idea (even though I did not like it ​) ​,and now not only minnowbooster is voting but also other curators. If we follow that logic, it opened more opportunities for authors, to rely not only on minnowbooster and his power.
However, now the magic happens which I really don't get. You are changing 3x maximum vote to x2.5 and introduce whitelist​ for super quality authors. It kind of pissed me off, why decrease maximum vote, if you never have 100 % (always at a 60-65 % level)?
Now I read another article by minnowbooster about the ​importance of quality content, that it should help to fight spammers etc.
So my thoughts are - maybe I am missing something and minnowbooster really have a plan? I am waiting patiently and what I see.
You are changing possible vote in such a manner that I should order either under 0.10 cents (or smth like that) or more than​ usd 10.5 (which is impossible because the ​maximum daily vote is 10). So you are gathering energy, you are almost 100 %, I am patiently​ waiting for the ​opportunity​ to use your service and bam you open it.
But there is a BIG BUT , you spent more than​ 20 % in couple hours on your whitelist members. I still cannot vote for usd 1,2 ,3,4 and like that until 10. I have the option​ to vote either before usd 0.5 or after usd 15.5.
So what was the point of this whole restructure? It is impossible to apply for whitelist, cause you accepted only like 200 accounts, you spent all your energy on them and you don't open possibility for casual minnows to get a small vote of usd 2-3.

I got very dissapointed in your service. I have a feeling that you guys only think about yourself and not trying to improve steemit society.
This is my personal opinion, but I am sure there are tons of people who feel the same - betrayed.

P.S. When you had nearly 100 % I have not seen a single 2x vote, I am not even talking about promised​ 2.5
Now you lost all your power again :)

Thanks for updating the new system

very interesting topic to talk about

Sood Good!!!! yeah

Thanks for this helpful post

wahaha upvgoats has gone upmountain to get upgrass.

hola me registre con ustedes!! saludos quiero seguir creciendo en steemit creo en su proyecto y en que mis ingresos aumentaran gracias feliz noche @raggamuffin @minnowbooster@steemvoter steem-go-to-the-moon.gif

I sent 3 SBD to minnowbooster.but i got 3.5 sbd by your upvote. So i can get 75% from 3.5 sbd. So i lost 0.375 sbd for you.

Hi @minnowbooster
I liked it... upvote for you!
Regards from Maracaibo - Venezuela, see you soon!

Thanks you are great as i suspected.

Sent you this Post. Just wanted to make sure you got it. Thanks

2 hours ago
Transfer 5.000 SBD to minnowbooster

Did I just lose 20 steem dollars. Send it to you guys, post memo is correct. Even after 5 hours no upvotes or refund yet :(

5 hours ago Transfer 20.000 SBD to minnowbooster https://steemit.com/bitconnect/@ctyptouniverse/bitconnect-almost-no-development-at-all

Figures. Right about the time I start using it, there is a problem.

My recent post https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@onlineprds/bitcoin-and-bitcoin-cash, I got an upvote of $2.30 against 2.20 SBD sent, after curation it will come $2.16. Is this Okay?

nice post team @minnowbooster

great post,plezz chekes my last post?

Hi @minnowbooster or anyone who can help me.
I transferred 15 steem to minnowbooster 2 hours ago. How long does it usually take until the vote is on my post?
Till now I just received 0,01 SD and I don't understand what this is for?
Or did I something wrong maybe?

@minnowbooster I powered up to your how do I get it back?


Hey how about a reply?

wow minnowbooster has really gone to shit lately

In my opinion @minnowbooster was better in the past (days ago), maybe the solution is rollback some of the "new features", for example, the whitelist/megaboost thing.


I feel that it is gearing towards whitelist/egaboost and want us minnows to boost it :(

@minnowbooster i need your help please help me.

Thanks for this valuable service!

hola @minnowbooster me parecen muy interesantes todos tus post , queria pedirte un favor ,es para que ver si me ayudas con este post que te dejo aqui ..https://steemit.com/spanish/@diegoaraujo/receta-pastel-de-lechuga-con-calabaza-jamon-ahumado-y-romero , muchas gracias y disculpa de cualquier manera.. atentamente @diegoaraujo

thanks for the update @minnowbooster
good job @reggaemuffin
you guys are doing great and i understand many may not like what you doing or stand for but the fact is its benefiting us minnows as such keep it up... thanks for sharing this update

I am really happy to read your post. I am Pankaj from Bangladesh, I followed and upvoted you on steemit and I would be so grateful to you if you upvote and follow me back.
Nice to meet you.

I'm sure you have been getting reports about this, but just in case you haven't:

I think something may be wrong with minnowbooster. I used minnowbooster earlier today and paid 1SBD and 0.20SBD and got upvotes worth $1.05 and $0.21, which after curation gets taken out amounts to a net loss on my investment.

It used to be different up until recently, and I'm not sure what changed but thought I would let you know!

I want my delegated SP back, what should I do?

Hallo......saya wondo

Ok as of right now 11/13/2017 what is the minimum amount of SBD I can send with the link to my post in the memo and receive a profitable return? @minnowbooster

there is problem @minnowbooster ... i transferred $7 sbd it showed i will get value of $10 upvote but i got $7.54 is it profit :(
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The graph shows that all send amounts are workin g in the blue , but I have now had to resend 5 times and it keeps telling me I sent the wrong amount and to look at the graph , LOL! I have the graph but it must be broken because its not sending properly ! Thanks !💕

today i sent sbd but not return profit ... check the matter pls

not return profit or sbd ?



@minnowboster return my sbd....

Nice post you done superb job


how is this a superb job? Did you not read the post?

not return SBD? check matter plz


Check the matter

minnow booster's service seems to be down, I sent 10 SBD, but no response, thanks in advance for troubleshooting the issue and helping everyone with similar cases

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