Why I Delegated 10,000 SteemPower to @Steem-UA

in ua •  3 months ago

This morning I went on SteemConnect and delegated 10,000 SP to the @Steem-UA Project!
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What is SteemUA?

UA calculates the "influence" of any account as a probability distribution and can be seen as a new reputation metric. Here are a few way this technology can be use:

  1. Detect fake account and botnet (dynamic blacklist)
  2. Detect genuine account (dynamic whitelist)
  3. Can be used as an oracle for SMTs
  4. Create APIs to generate an alternative "Trending" or "Hot" section on a UI
  5. And more!

Why Did I Delegate?

First of all, I want this project to succeed. But there is also the added benefit of having upvotes from them based on my UA score which is 7.1 (I'm really curious to see what kind of voting % I'll get from this).

What I Wish Will Happen

Steemit Delegation

I would love to see @misterdelegation give a boost to this project and help it's adoption with a generous delegation...that would definitely help the guys prove their technology.

New Trending/Hot/New UA API

I want to see the @steem-ua develop an API to generate a Trending/Hot/New algorithm that truly display great quality content. The vote buying that is happening right now does not make the experience on the feed interesting at all. From there, I'm sure many Steem front-end would be happy to use it.

Replacing the Current Reputation Score System

If this technology works as intended, I would love seeing it as the main reputation score on the Steem network. That would either require a hardfork or Steemit Inc using their API I imagine.

Using UA for SMTs Airdrops

Airdropping is the process of giving away free token to a community. With UA, we can safely determine who's a genuine user and who's a bot without requiring identity verification. It would be great to have an airdrop service that uses UA/ & SteemConnect to distribute token to the well deserving users of the Steem blockchain.

Conclusion

I hope you are going to go ahead and delegate to one of my favorite steemproject!

PS: Scroll at the bottom of this article to learn to delegate to @steem-ua and the benefits that comes with it.

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Though I'm a redfish.. At first sight I just delegated 50dsp to steem-ua after reading thier post and their curation activities has been awesome.
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Triggering me power up 86 steem power recently and looking forward to delegate more sp. I love this initiative by UA team. Thanks for simplifying UA initiative with this post @cryptoctopus

I'm eager to power up more because of UA community.

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WOW @udezee! You ROCK!

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I felt that one team UA.. More sunshine to y'all pastures. 🤗

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that was awesome, i'm trying hard to manage some power, when i get i will try to jump in there

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Please do... The benefits will wow you when you delegate.
They are like Pizza for small fishes - very yummy 😎

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Yes, i can imagine for your positive approach from your previous response in this post, yes, i'm trying hard for that to

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You rock.. All the best mate

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Thanks udezee

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My pleasure motivating you buddy ✌️

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The same counts for me udezee. I am pulling my steem delegations out of the vote bots to delegate it all into steem-ua. These kinds of projects is whats gonna make steem great!

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The projects presence moves with a pace of growth & change on steem blockchain. Looking forward to your contribution (dsp or ideas) to UA.

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I wil be delegating in about 3 days. Depending on when the steem delegation returns to my wallet.

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It takes 7 days for a delegation to return.

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i know i canceled it 4 days ago.

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Oh.. I see why. Anyways after the 7 days count you will have it back mate✌️

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that was awesome, i'm trying hard to manage some power, when i get i will try to jump in there

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At first glance this is just silly fun. But it’s deeper then that, you see bugs or Elmer, not sure which, is responsible. No they are not In the hole, they created a wormhole. The reason for this is that they are trying to track Daffy Duck a lesson, that hurting others is hurting themselves. It’s more than a cartoon. It’s a deeply layered philosophical discussion that seems silly to a kid. Thus,it is what it is, Humor to a fool and thoughtfulness to a thinker.

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Y u no delegate 2 me?!
So I should be sorry not kissing witnesses, not using bidbots for months catching various plagiarists on the platform. I checked my score when utopian announced their collab. I wasn’t able to remeber the number :)
Ofc boosted votes for riches makes sense, and the provided feed will be full of “rich people of steem”, more 600stu food photos, yay! bidbots already emptied their following list to game its basic PR algorithm.
So yeah why not to follow another hype.

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seems salty...but I don't see your point. How much do you know the UA algorithm?

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Yeah, I regret when I post the comment while everyone so excited for no reason. How much should I know or is there a regular user friendly explanation I missed afaik it’s based on google’s pagerank algorithm which is depreciated in 2003 or 2013 I don’t remember it either.
What does top 100 means on ua list, most trustable sources? Most influencals?
Ned at 38 steemitblog not even there. I wonder where would jerry banfield listed if he still runs his witness server.
Does jesta has all of the answers for steem blockchain. What does ua provides to you?

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Pagerank is still used by google along other algorithm (we just don't have access anymore). UA uses the same mathematic of probability distribution as pagerank along with other algorithm that help figure out:
1- Who is a real user
2- Who is a bot or a spammer
3- Who's content is most valued by the Steem community (for now)

Jesta is the top witness(#1)...and he has been elected to be one...doesn't it make sense that he is also the most influential content creator for now?

Finally, as more systems start using UA, people will start changing the way they follow since it has now a value attached to it...just like the way people use hyperlinks on the web.

You can be a sourpuss if you want but I would suggest bringing in some corrective feedback if you have any.

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Could you please stop attacking me :) I'm sharing my thoughts on the project itself. With already known facts.
https://www.wikiwand.com/en/PageRank#/Deprecation
From what I read I get that it's importance is also reduced, and people shouldn't focus only on PR. Which shows its reliability (at least for me.) as you said it should be used along with other algorithms. We already have a working version of UA and can see the public list and we can judge its efficiency from it basically.
There are tools for hacky-seo tactics that converts sentences on articles with similar words so it looks like a unique article. There is also machine learning at this point. So it pretty pretty easy to game it, even big boys started to unfollow people just to increase their ua score :) these guys are the most valuable ones in the platform? yeah sure why not.
Let's discuss it when vote sellers start to sell follows. Like PR created a market for backlinks. #follow4follow :thumbs_up:

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even big boys started to unfollow people just to increase their ua score :)

That might even decrease their own UA score @oups. But what's certain is that more UA is passed on to the remaining (active?) accounts they're following. Is there anything wrong with unfollowing accounts not active for quite some time?

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That might even decrease their own UA score

Only if the wrong accounts are unfollowed.

I repeat my reservations here, as I have not yet been able to see any arguments that could have mitigated them:

As soon as a monetary value is attributed to the UA, users will pay for having their UA increased. Simply by buying the following of high-UA accounts. In order to prepare for this economy accounts will first of all do an UA- optimized clean-up of their followed accounts to increase the UA-increment that they can pass and thus sell to others.

Hoping that such practice will not be accepted by other high UA-users and countered accordingly I personally consider naive and risky.

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Hi @shaka, thx for sharing your opinion again regarding UA ;-)
Have you seen any follow selling yet since UA went "live"?

Also, can you respond to my DMs on Discord please? Thx in advance

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I really can't discuss it further since I don't have enough knowledge about how it's calculated or else. I don't want to point fingers at all, just a quick sample, https://steemit.com/@smartsteem/followed I assume it's beneficial for the owner in UA-wise.

And my actual point is UA is on its early stages (I believe) and putting too much expectation to a project might harm it's evolution. Let's monitor if people able to game it, if you (project owners/contributors) are willing to solve any problems in your way.

There is nothing wrong with unfollowing unless it's done for climbing a ladder.

On other social media platforms people use this to gain more followers, follow for follow and purge the inactives at the end of the week. This way inactive ones not going to unfollow so you have a huge number on your profile meaning nothing without proper or enough communication. Like we already had many spammers in our wallets. "Send x sbd for resteems to millions..."

Well maybe I'm just being sourpuss and concerned about I won't have another chance to get in main feeds if it's implemented in various front-ends. Thanks to my UA score. First stakeholders, next vote buyers now UA will dominate feeds in a decentralized(!) platform.

Yep I delegated 6000 SP too and was going to write about this but you beat me to it!

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We will be watching the discussion down below and seeing what people think of UA
to see if it could be a fit for https://steempeak.com

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Also I invite @steem-ua to chat with us because if they want to use https://steempeak.com as a testing ground I'll talk to the developers about giving someone on your team access to put in the code.

  • It would need to be an OPT-IN option in settings so a user could decide to use it.
  • My personal suggestion is that it could be a sunset clause of X months hoping that there is more wide adoption by that time and maybe that is actually helpful to the UA cause.

Just my own personal thoughts... just to get the ball rolling for discussion

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i had tryed just once an look so nice, can you explain more about steempeak.

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@dotfee go here #steempeak, there are posts introducing it. Best way is log in and find out.

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I already did it and getting nice experience on @steempeak

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I certainly applaud your contribution to this initiative @cryptoctopus, as well as your active participation in the community. I hope the @steem-ua folks manage to come up with a metric that more accurately reflects true authority/influence than reputation.

From what I have seen so far, my only reservation is that UA seems a little "thin" on valuing content creation and engagement on the site. I suppose you could argue that it doesn't have value... but there really wouldn't BE much here if people weren't starting and engaging in dialogue. Sure, people would still be developing apps for the Steem blockchain, but without the Steemit social front end... I am not sure Steem would be much more than "just another blockchain project" with its Discord and Github components. Steemit (and other social apps) is essentially what allows for that all-important marketing edge: Differentiation.

I hope perhaps @steem-ua will consider consulting with @paulag who's in the middle of developing a *contribution/engagement" metric.

But I'm totally with you in wanting to see an alternative influence metric develop!

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We're now algorithmically curating content as:

UA_Vote = x * UA_Author + y * UA_Post + z * UA_Comment

... in order to include post interaction / engagement.
And @paulag is a friend of mine I talk to regularly, including this topic!

PS, you got yourself a primer on this, because I'm about to post about it this evening (but I have a lot on my plate to manage everything happening regarding UA, UA-API and @steem-ua)!

Cheers! ( @scipio )

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Thanks for responding @scipio! I fundamentally think you a creating a really good thing here... and look forward to seeing it develop. I'm glad you're including different metrics to reflect participation.

I remember well the days of "Google watching" to try to figure out how to get our web sites to figure more prominently. And I understand that it's challenge. Metaphorically speaking, we all KNOW that "Sony Corporation" has authority in electronics, but what about the smaller guy who's every bit as expert but doesn't have a $100 million budget? Ranking for "value" will of course always be somewhat subjective...

It's looking interesting project to me @cryptoctopus Thanks for shearing your knowledge,
at this moment i don't have SP or tiny amount of SP , when i manage i will do definitely

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We have the @steem-ua Gift Program for new accounts that don't have enough SP to delegate 25 SP!
Just talk to us on our @steem-ua Discord Server <== click! ;-)

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Thanks for your support, i will definitely follow your instruction

I love it when the Steem community encourages improvements of the blockchain that will longterm change this network for better!

Thanks for boosting this topic to the top, resteemed in order to help refinance your invest :-)

Yup, a change is in need for a better future!

This looks like a seriously excellent move forwards for steem. I will almost certainly be delegating in the near future!

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you can still get an upvotes from @steem-ua with just a 25SP delegation. [read more here](https://steemit.com/ua/@steem-ua/introducing-userauthority-ua-steem-ua-and-ua-api

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Cheers! I'll get onto it tomo when Im on my PC

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Sadly I don't have much sp to delegate to @steem-ua, bUt my support is with you and @cryptoctopus you have done a great job, keep it up sir.

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you can still get an upvotes from @steem-ua with just a 25SP delegation. read more here

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yeah sure, I will try to buy some.

I want to reach 1000SP soon and i think that i will delegate it to this great steemproject..Thanks a lot.

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You get the exact same curation/upvote if you only delegate 25 SP! ;-)

Thank you for your great support for @steem-ua!

Sounds like a worthwhile cause to delegate precious SP to (after clicking the link) - which I'm looking into doing. Gives bonus upvotes on top of regular delegation payouts. And works towards fake account / bot detection? Lovely!

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We're pretty cool if I may say so myself! :P

Its nice to see people like you ALWAYS supporting projects that enhance the steem platform. And honestly i did not even know that Steem-ua even existed before this.

My plan one day is to give back to the community who has always helped me in my down time.

How's parenthood going?

Pretty cool :)
I hope atleast a Ui like busy uses Steem-UA. The rep system gives you false hope. I have learned to judge rep in steemit like this:
-10 to the one shown is the real one lol
And that not even right :P

This is good if it can truly solve the bots and trending post issues.. What a noble thing to delegate to them, I wish them success..

Using UA for SMTs Airdrops

This would be a very nice feature. SMT can determine whether to divide their token to only genuine users or good users.

This is indeed a great, I wish I had more power to delegate.

It's a tough job navigating through the current tag systems, so I give my best to tell new users about the niche tags that are manually curated such as #travelfeed or #cyclefeed.

If they could create a new tag system and pick this sort of tags I mentioned, it would be great. Easier to direct new and high-quality content to where they can be manually curated.

good stuff, it makes me smile to see established users delegating to the project. I can definitely imagine one of the front ends from Steem incorporating user authority somewhat easily in the near future, and I would absolutely love to see that come to fruition.

First of all I would like to say i am really impressed by the efforts you are putting to make this platform transparent and more awesome. It is also a matter of honor for me to Congratulate you on taking this wonderful step to delegate the huge amount for the success of this project. I wish and really hoping for the massive success of this @Steem-UA Project :)

Imagine how cleaner the byteball airdrop would have been if Steem-ua was a thing! There's a ton of potencial for fair airdrops and more trust in the community with their system, especially as HF20 approaches and our user base starts growing more and more! Can't wait to see what happens next!

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Me too :-)

There seems to be less an less activity on here (since I joined 12 months ago).

The 'mood' of the place has changed somewhat I think, also (obviously only my perception, but still...)

When I joined it was very positive, but not quite the same now. (and when I joined the prices were around the same, so it can't be just that..

Retention numbers on steemit seems to be massive problem - maybe this will help some...?

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Mood definitely follows price trends over price. Last year, we were out of a bear market that brought Steem to $0.10...while now we are on a bear market that brought us down from a price of $6.00.

There is a lot of great stuff that happened but this place is still "beta" after all and much has to be improved.

Strong people don't put others down. They lift them up.It's really a amazing project and you the strong man lift it up... #Respect

Very cool! I hope I get 10,000 SP someday! :)

Man you really cleaned up here on steemit.
Causally delegating 10,000sp like its nothing...
My big goal for steemit is to get to 10,000 steem power...how about giving me some help getting to 2,000sp first

It has been a dream of mine to see an ACTUAL trending page for as long as I can remember.... if we had a UA tab to see this organic trending page you have no idea how ecstatic I would be.... it is the CENTRAL problem is this site and anything to get closer to that dream I’m all for.

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Central problem “of this site” not “is”

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Whoa, 10,000 SP!!

Ya nos contaras que tal funciona y sus garantias

Great idea. I might consider delegation a thousand or two too

Good to hear @cryptoctopus seems very good project & it will be succeed. All the best

great article sir, well explained

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I found you are a steemian who cares so much to increase the creativity of other steemians, what you are discourse is very good and if it is discussed it will make projections have an important role for creative power and work as well as giving appreciation in the form of rewards

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It's looking interesting project

Yes make better than and this program can be steemian creative in one for one post

Every people in this proyek can be creative to know every akun steemian in this steemit yes or no better than steemian other

Thank you for sharing @cryptoctopus. I just a new member, and a have a little info about how to use Steemit .

This project seem to be promising and I appreciate that you support it. I don't have more SP so can't support but hope to do so in future when I would have enough steem power.

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you can still get an upvotes from @steem-ua with just a 25SP delegation. [read more here](https://steemit.com/ua/@steem-ua/introducing-userauthority-ua-steem-ua-and-ua-api

Hi cryptoctopus! Please tell me how will you distribute Airdrop service and in what ways it will affect this platform?

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I said I would love for such a service to exist.

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That's what I mean..what can be your plans for services like Airdrop. You must have some insights? Thanks!

Hello! @cryptoctopus I'm impressed by your quality writing skills, as you know I'm newbie here and having great experience exploring super articles like yours and this awesome platform of #steem. Thank you 🍂

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The potential of ua is great, would love to see it implemented for trending pages. But I still have some open questions about the underlying math

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Hello @cryptoctopus, do you know anything? There should be more people like you on this platform, who recognize an excellent project like @steem-ua and support with their great voting power, in my case I am relatively new and my voting power does not reach 80 because I have had to change it to be able to survive, since I have not been very voted in my publications, but I trust that at some point not too far could also support projects like these, I congratulate you, my friend.

I will be delegating some SP to see how their voting percentage works as well.

I really like what goes on here and will continue to use Steemit, however the platform can be a little disenchanting for new users. When some people get paid more on a comment, than the actual post. I understand that more seasoned users have more sway which is great, but I think it can be confusing when just starting out on here. This all being said, great article and thanks for helping funnel out the bots and fake accounts.

I like it very much!!! I delegated a bit as well!

wow is an excellent project, It sounds very interesting, I hope it moves forward with success

Hello cryptoctopus.. i'm a new user of steemit.. Can you pls help to guide how things are going here.. What's the best way to improve my reputation to get success steemit.. Thanks @azizulnoor

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Produce value for other people and do networking.

perfect👌💎

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Excellent projuct @Cryptctopus sir. @Steem UA Project good any seetmer

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Good deal @cryptoctopus. I am glad to see you supporting this worthy cause. I hope it comes off as they plan.

Question: how are things going with @TOKENBB? Havent heard an update of late...it seems like another very interesting project that can net great benefits to the STEEM blockchain.

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We are still working hard at it. I can't give a date for sure but it's going to be very shortly. SteemConnect took a good 30 hours to figure out so that has set us back quite a bit. Will give an upvote soon.

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Thanks.

I have it on my follow list. With more information, I will definitely put together another article.

An exciting project.

@cryptoctopus this project is really good . and i am happy to know about this awesome project @Steem-UA

Wow this is the big jump

Very analytical writing. You have selected a very good topic to write. I really like your writing and want to see more writings from you.

so fast

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It must be amazing to be in a position to do that :)

UA sounds great. Sadly I am such a plankton I can't delegate to the service.

great stuff

This is encouraging... Enough of plagiarism on Steemit... Wish I'm strong enough wallet wise to support this project...

Very good initiative. In this way, the projects advance. What good intention

thanks you share your expriance

A fantastic initiative! Your passionate article also impulses others to follow. Well written and clearly explained. Thank you!

Good to see so much blessing for UA to sucxeeed...nice way to make UA successful...great day aheas

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Damn, so many possibilities on Steemit. Thanks for at least clarifying this one!

We need more steem conneeeeeeeeeeect tools so that I can hand my dead grandma a Bell Ghost phone and let her invest her ghost dollars into @blocktrades and then buy @steem so we can get all the ghosts bank accounts or let ghosts use their own accounts after they die ... through incandescent light bulbs which, if places in kathara grid lanterns... well I said too much

Anyway @steemmonsters is looking really.cool I'm glad they have a puzzle master like me to embrace all of them and actually think of ways to keep them in the giant puzzle game were all going to play together but its called ackzas world peace simulator on occulus rift by steem facebook... yes steem and Facebook merge in the future its a beautiful marriage of all the tech nerds and all the female artists of the world to marry humanity off to each other and the Indians i think and Latin Americans and Israelis have the best match makers or maybe Turkey or Nigeria i dunno actually africa has the ultamite pressure for match making woahhhhh this is insane we have to finish steem monsters for Nintendo haha conan is going to Japan soon... to Conan Town... I will want to be in his wake if anyone can help me stay somewhere cool to do my work on peace and plan out amazing ideas for Ja0an and San Diego-tijuana Megacity

We need more steem conneeeeeeeeeeect tools so that I can hand my dead grandma a Bell Ghost phone and let her invest her ghost dollars into @blocktrades and then buy @steem so we can get all the ghosts bank accounts or let ghosts use their own accounts after they die ... through incandescent light bulbs which, if places in kathara grid lanterns... well I said too much

Anyway @steemmonsters is looking really.cool I'm glad they have a puzzle master like me to embrace all of them and actually think of ways to keep them in the giant puzzle game were all going to play together but its called ackzas world peace simulator on occulus rift by steem facebook... yes steem and Facebook merge in the future its a beautiful marriage of all the tech nerds and all the female artists of the world to marry humanity off to each other and the Indians i think and Latin Americans and Israelis have the best match makers or maybe Turkey or Nigeria i dunno actually africa has the ultamite pressure for match making woahhhhh this is insane we have to finish steem monsters for Nintendo haha conan is going to Japan soon... to Conan Town... I will want to be in his wake if anyone can help me stay somewhere cool to do my work on peace and plan out amazing ideas for Ja0an and San Diego-tijuana Megacity

That is very interesting project!!

I am agreed with you and your writing was awesome. But I am very weak at power. Waiting to get power and after getting I will do the same.

Hey. Haven´t seen you post for some time.

Welcome back. And Yes, @steem-ua is pretty awesome, and @scipio is a really cool guy.

I would definetly delegate more if i had more sp...

well i am new here but checked your blog to understand the concept of @steem-ua and i understood your points and your notes about it thank you for sharing such useful information

I am a new steemian and I have nothing to delegate but i future i will join @steem-ua
i Loved this program personally i have read Many post of them and i loved to resteem it...
Thank you @cryptoctopus for this article..😉

Very good initiative. In this way, the projects advance. What good intention

Thank you that you give us a lot of money in our steemit. It's really telling me it will work a lot. We hope that you will give us more resources.

Now I am not able to delegate sp to anyone. How much should be sp is available in account for delegate , clarify me!

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I was also finding a great project to delegate steem power , now I will delegate some steem power in this project ..
And thanku for this info

Wow 😁🤔 lots of necessary informations for me here 😀 thanks

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Project seems to be really great to find a good quality content and detecting fraud account. Best luck to you.

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Nice post i like it and East and West you are the best

Quite an interesting project. Will keep an eye on it.

Delegated 10,000 SteemPower to @Steem-UA
Really awesome

I think you were right to do that, to allow Steem to grow he must to have a much more relevant content qualification tool than the current. Thanks for making me discover this very interesting project.

You've made some great points there! I feel great I can be one of small delegators to support UA too.

Ok this is a very valuable project

But who in the would has that kind of Stee Power?

Good to know that you are thinking about minnows, and i hope @steem-ua will support minnows as much he/her can,
I want to ask something, what percentage of the vote we get if we delegate steempower? Don't take this question negative!

it was awesome brother....i will also try to manage and do this accurately...

Can you give me details about delegation ? I need helpful article. Thanks

I want to see the @steem-ua develop an API to generate a Trending/Hot/New algorithm that truly display great quality content.

I am waiting for something like that like forever. The current trending is absolutely crap, you need to pay bots to get visibility, there is no alternative, unless you are extremely important in the Steem community, or someone extremely important upvote or resteem you, or you are rich and upvote yourself.

Wow...
Thanks for sharing us

At last somebody smart has done that, there is a great need for recognizing fakes and bots
Steemit is so amazing that I can close my eyes and imagine absolutely ANYTHING and there will be an exact project within 2 years on this blockchain proving our thoughts can become a reality

Well Said Friend.I agree with you,Please Follow me,I`m new here If you have any tips for me

Very interesting, but also very complicated
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hope it will be neutral and not favor delegators, friends, etc

Buena iniciativa, es lamentable que las personas terminen comprando votos, no siendo genuinos con su participación y la interacción, sería mas enriquecedor para todos leer y colaborar en las ideas de todos

Good initiative, it is unfortunate that people end up buying votes, some people are not genuine with their participation and interaction, it would be more enriching for everyone to read and collaborate on the ideas of all

Congratulations @cryptoctopus!
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  • Pending payout - Ranked 1 with $ 605,87

I was also thinking to write about this and suddenly saw this