[DELEGATION GIVEAWAY] Are There Still Motivated Newcomers To Support?
14 days ago, I offered to delegate some of my SP to people who are struggling with RC. I still have 4 spots to fill. Can it be really that hard to find newcomers in trouble?
![redfish rockets question.jpg](https://steemitimages.com/640x0/https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmXmyVgfAmhzJ8dttbQXoGCNVF73TeQdxcFj5YbpkV31gP/redfish%20rockets%20question.jpg)
Source
Where Is Everyone?
Two weeks ago, I launched the 4th edition of the Redfish Rocket Contest.
The idea behind this contest is to help new Steemians to overcome their RC issues by delegating some of my Steem Power to them.
Since the first three editions were quite a success, I was surprised to see that after an entire week, only 1 person had nominated someone.
I contacted the nominee myself, and - because her posts were mainly in Spanish - I asked @celinavisaez to contact her too to explain. (Again, you're the best, @celinavisaez!)
I didn't receive a reply...
![dividerlines.png](https://steemitimages.com/640x0/https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmePb2AbeWLzuiWmjLQ6eNwuJDXAjiVPUGjzPcJx6DB4j3/dividerlines.png)
Searching
So, I started to search for candidates myself. I had seen a couple of posts from the @heyhaveyamet initiative before, and it looked like a good place to start.
In case you haven't heard of the @heayhaveyamet initiative, let me introduce you to it.
It's an account run by @brittandjosie and @xcountytraveler and the main goal is to find quality intros that are posted by new Steemians and give them a little more exposure.
So I went through a couple of their posts, and found some really interesting people, who would be perfect candidates to receive a delegation and be able to make a decent start here on SteemIt.
It was sad to see that most of them had made only 2 or 3 posts and then disappeared again. I contacted a few of them, but none of them replied. They were really gone.
So I started the comb the #introduceyourself tag myself. I spent hours to find only a couple of quality introduction posts. Again, I sent out messages, and again, I received no replies.
![dividerlines.png](https://steemitimages.com/640x0/https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmePb2AbeWLzuiWmjLQ6eNwuJDXAjiVPUGjzPcJx6DB4j3/dividerlines.png)
Are We In Trouble?
That's about the only thing I can conclude. I knew that after HF20 even more users than before left before they even got started, but I didn't realize it was this bad.
If nothing is done to free newcomers from the limitations set by the lack of Resource Credits, only the 'veterans' will remain. And without new blood coming in, the platform - and its DApps, for all that matters - will not be sustainable.
There might be another reason for the lack of redfish in need, though. One that is actually very positive.
Because of the low price of Steem, many people are buying to power up and get rid of the RC problem.
I don't have the numbers to check whether this is true or not, but the idea gives me a little bit of hope.
![dividerlines.png](https://steemitimages.com/640x0/https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmePb2AbeWLzuiWmjLQ6eNwuJDXAjiVPUGjzPcJx6DB4j3/dividerlines.png)
One
There are other delegation giveaways running. Like the weekly contest @thedarkhorse is running. (You can find his latest giveaway here.)
These delegation giveaways aren't a lot more successful than mine was. Most comments are posted by veterans who are thankful for taking such an initiative.
The number of comments from candidates is really low.
I did find one candidate through @thedarkhorse's contest, though. Since @thedarkhorse only picks one winner, I took the liberty of checking out the profiles of the others. That's how I found @nurseanne84, a very active blogger who wanted to engage with the community more. She had already received a delegation from @crypto.piotr, but I added a little to it, so she now has 100SP and can post and interact as much as she pleases.
@nurseanne84, I haven't told you yet, but you will also receive a vote from me on one post each day, so you'll be able to grow your account a little faster.
So that's how @nurseanne84 became my first Redfish rocket.
![dividerlines.png](https://steemitimages.com/640x0/https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmePb2AbeWLzuiWmjLQ6eNwuJDXAjiVPUGjzPcJx6DB4j3/dividerlines.png)
4 To Go
Since I initially planned to give away 5 delegations for at least 6 weeks, there are still 4 spots left.
Feel free to apply, or to nominate someone. You can find all information in the original post.
![go for it.gif](https://steemitimages.com/0x0/https://files.steempeak.com/file/steempeak/simplymike/pofKQonG-go20for20it.gif)
Basic Requirements:
You currently have 60SP or less (including delegations).
You post regularly - at least 2 times a week should be doable.
You actively engage with other people in the community through voting, commenting and replying to comments.
You power up what you earn.
You haven't powered down before.
Meanwhile, I'm going to keep on searching.
Who would have ever thought it would be so difficult to find people to help out?
![signature2.gif](https://steemitimages.com/0x0/https://res.cloudinary.com/hpiynhbhq/image/upload/v1518894855/qd1teveurcpmlnmxf1so.gif)
![Power House Creatives Logos FINAL_float.png](https://steemitimages.com/350x250/https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmd3ZgczWd8wzLLhwBJ9WkGqf46kfizUHL9qq5zV4Z56gZ/Power%20House%20Creatives%20Logos%20FINAL_float.png)
![JOIN THE DISCORD](https://steemitimages.com/640x0/https://i.imgur.com/87RsVYb.png)
I am overwhelmed by your effort to find someone to sponsor instead of just waiting for them to come to you. That is the true sense of helping out! So kudos and more power to you!
I am proud to see @celinavisaez on this post and very glad to have you two met. Celina has been very active and makes the most of what she got since she got herself back after the HF20 issue. And you made it possible @simplymike! This is what makes me very conscious of nominating anyone for delegation - those who value and grow from it by being active. I hope we can find those worthy candidates.
Thanks for the kind words, @macoolette.
@celinavisaez was oe of my previous Redfish Rockets, and I'm very glad I could help her to find her way here on SteemIt.
Although we communicate through Google translate (which goes surprisingly good), she's always there for you. She's one of the kindest Steemians I know, and I'm glad she didn't have to leave after HF20. It's people like her (and others, of course, that makes it worth to actively search for newcomers that could use a little help vetting started.
Gracias por tan amables palabras, Dios las bendiga @simplymike y @macoolette, inmensamente agradecida con las dos, doy gracias a Dios por encontrarlas en mi camino, abrazos y besos. Hoy estoy muy feliz porque mi hija se casa.
Kiss your daughter for me! 😊 Again, best wishes to her and congratulations to the groom. 😊
That's great news!! Congratulations to you, and to your daughter of course :0)
I couldn't agree more.
I love to see how responsive and supportive you are @simplymike
Yours
Piotr
Thanks, @crypto.piotr.
This post was spotted by @theluvbug and has received a 100% upvote and/or a resteem.
If you would like to possibly receive future support from @theluvbug
then please make use of the #theluvbug tag.
Spreading the STEEMIT LOVE with upvotes and resteems of AWESOME Steemit content. Use #theluvbug to get my attention :)
In Proud Collaboration with The Power House Creatives
and their founder @jaynie
I am a newcomer, but don't need the delegation.
I am in the category you were speaking of who just upgrade themselves due to the low price.
Unfortunately, I am new and don't even know someone to suggest or even great details about how it all works.
I know it would be a pain and I probably would not do it, but could you codify your rules above and put them in some kind of STEEM tool to spit out a list of candidates?
I know easy for me to say...
Great article. Wish you the best. Keep on truckin'
That is very codifiable actually, I might take that on as a new project
Posted using Partiko Android
Wow! That would be awesome of you!
Good luck if you do. I have little idea about the details of that kind of thing.
I'll make sure to let you know when I get it done!
Are you really going to create such a script? It would be awesome, since I do this every couple of weeks, and it would make it a lot easier to find potential candidates. Also, further down in the comments section @gadrian expressed he wanted to set up an initiative like this one, but that he didn't have a lot of hope on finding people to support.
If you're not going to do it, or don't have time to do it, I need to find someone else who can, because this would make life so much easier :0)
Yeah of course, it shouldn't be too much hassle. I'm just on holliday at the moment so won't be able to start til I get back on Thursday.
Awesome! Meanwhile, enjoy your holiday
https://github.com/sisygoboom/redfisher
It's very slow at the minute but it does the job! (let me know if you have any problems with it)
Thanks for the mention Mike, a tool will help for sure. I already did my giveaway for January, but there's always next month.
Posted using Partiko Android
I don't really understand what he means. Sometimes I'm confronted with my limits when it comes to the English language :0/
But apparently you do get it. Would you mind trying to explain in a different way, because it sparked my interest...
Maybe @sisygoboom could explain better, but i will give it a try. I am new so I have no idea if the things I'm saying are true but here goes.
I am assuming that being a blockchain that there are blockchain database tools that can search the blockchain for a list of qualities that you are currently use:
< 60SP or less (including delegations)
post </= 2 times/week
actively vote, comment and reply to comments (some number cutoffs would have to be quantified here)
earnings powered up
never powered down
This list of qualities (plus any others you wished) could be put into a blockchain "query" and spit out a list of qualified users to start from. This would eliminate a lot of the legwork you are doing manually.
Even just creating a list of those that contain just two of these qualities (say SP < 60 and post 2x/week) could greatly reduce the ocean you are fishing in, and allow you to be more directed and effective in your efforts.
Once again, I am no good at this, but there are many programmers out there for whom this is child's play.
Hope that is more clear.
Maybe contact @sisygoboom. They seem to think it is doable!
Haha!! Nevermind! I see they replied already. Told you I was a newb!
Thanks for explaining in such a way that I understand what you meant. I know nothing about coding, and only little about databases, but I indeed assume it should be possible. Great idea!
I must admit I'm not really sure I understand what you mean with
From the small part I understand, it sounds very interesting. Would you mind explaining it in laman's terms?
It wouldn't be hard to write code that looks at posts from the last two days, if the author has a sp of less than 60 then you check their account history to see if they've ever powered down and their self-vote %. If they haven't broken the rules you can add their name to a list.
That is actually a great idea, and would save a lot of time and effort...
Hi there @simplymike, I admire all your work to help newbies... I appreciate you once helping me, at the start of my time here!
I mostly am familiar with the "pets" and particularly "cats" niche on Steemit, but I have a couple of newbie candidates for you:
@krazzytrukker is quite active and interactive and keeps a blog about being a long-haul trucker with rescue cats along for the ride. Has about 37SP.
@kiwigato is brand new as of a few days ago, but showing promise; only has the 15SP root delegation from Steemit, so far.
Then there's the interesting case of @comiccat who has been here almost 10 months; posts original cat photos, powers up all posts 100% and yet still only has less than 20SP. Perhaps not as interactive as what you're looking for.
Edited to add: And here's a brand new member who's evidently an Instagram pet celebrity: @christinelook; might be worth supporting.
=^..^=
Hi @curatorcat. Sorry for the late reply.
I had read your comment two days ago, but I went over to the blog of @christinelook and from there I got sidetracked, lol.
Thanks for the nominations. I just noticed that @krazzytrukker has already replied to this post, so I can assume he's still active, and apparently plans to stay. Great.
Hahaha, I just checked out his profile, and for some odd reason I didn't expect to see all posts about cats. I should have known better, since he was nominated by you :0)
That @comicat story sounds a little strange to me. How can you be here for 10 months and only have 13SP?
I'll check out the wallet history later. For some reason I can't on SteemIt, so I need to switch to Steempeak later.
Thanks again for the nominations!
Hello @simplymike! And thank you for your support. I have to admit that belonging at the bottom of the ecosystem is difficult. You made it possible for me to create content and engage with everyone without wondering if I can successfully post it or not (it happens a lot to me and, its very frustrating!)
Glad I could help out.
I'm experiencing first-hand right now what it's like to be low on RC: I created an alt account to perform an experiment, and I keep running out of RC. i guess I'll need to delegate to myself a little more :0)
What I saw since 2 days is that they are account flaging specificaly new user to discurage them staying on Steem
Posted using Partiko Android
Sorry for the late reply. I can hardly believe what you say. There must be another reason for the flags... although you never know here on SteemIt.
Do you remember who was flagging, and if there was a message attached? (I think I know who, but I can't have prejudice, so I'm asking anyway)
Look at the people who flagged this post, they are activly flaging new Users
https://steemit.com/introduceyourself/@myflo100/mein-erster-upload
Posted using Partiko Android
I'm looking into it - just took a short break to let you know. I've been trying to find some clues, but so far all I have is that all accounts I've already checked were active up until 3 to 5 months ago, then they stopped posting.
They don't seem to be targeting new users specifically, because they've also been downvoting posts and comments of users with a reputation score of 60+.
Through steemworld.org I can only go back 1 week, but it appears there has been no downvoting today, nor yesterday. On the 16th and the 17th, they have all been downvoting the same people, both posts and comments.
Some downvotes were acceptable, like the downvotes on the post that contained only a full stop. But other articles are quality articles. It seems the downvoted posts and comments are often related to Dsound or Dtube, but I need to look into that a little more.
They all have a different amount of SP, from 300sp up to 20 000SP.
It's almost impossible the accounts belong to different people.
At first, I thought there might be some relation to the steem Flag Rewards initiative, but that isn't so.
I'll need to think of a way to follow up on the behaviour of these accounts, trying to find a pattern...
Yeah it is really strange, sometimes they downvote a lot, sometimes they only sell their vote and all of this with delegation bought from blocktrades.
It looks a little bit like the accounts where hacked.
The day they flagged the linked post, they flagged some more newbies. I didn't had a closer look at it later.
Posted using Partiko Android
I just found an introduction post they flagged so it is now hidden 'due to low ratings'. If you take a look at the post, it is f**ing cruel!
https://steemit.com/introduceyourself/@steemaddiction/people-expect-good-things-from-them-they-loved
I noticed they indeed all receive money from Minnowbooster.
And that some of the posts they flag are new, but some are 4 months old.
To be honest, I can't make head nor tail of it...
You know, these things just piss me off. Of course there are reasons to downvote a post, but these downvotes seem to be completely random.
Last time I came across something like this (and that was only 1 person who downvoted 1 other person) it made me so angry that I was willing to sacrifice my own account by making it public. My post would of course be downvoted by the same person, who is powerful enough to completely destroy my reputation.
Fortunately, someone calmed me down, and I never wrote the post.
But now I'm seriously thinking about writing a post about this.
No tagged names, just screenshots. But still, it's a risk.
So far for freedom of speech and decentralization ... :0(
But maybe I can collect some data and report it to Steemcleaners or so.
I'm taking screenshots and going to ask around if anything can be done against it. I know some people who might now...
Yeah I already made sure that blocktrades knows about it, but I don't know if they will revoke their delegation Or something.
Posted using Partiko Android
I wrote everything I found out in a report, but at the moment, there's no one around in the Steemcleaners Discord channel. I'll try again in the morning. It's 2am, and I really need to get some sleep :0)
Yes, my first month here I got a downvote by some Creepy Legion wanna be Bernie Sanders or something weird like that. Still not sure why.? No comment, no explanation as to why. But I do like this Steem, I follow @curatorcat @Denmarkguy @Janton and a few others, but find it hard to upvote and comment much right now.
But me and my main sidekick Sammi Jo (photo) the Trucking Kitty are in it for the Long Haul. So many great posts and people here. I am not gonna let a bully or cyber stalkers scare us off...
Posted using Partiko Android
I like your spirit @krazzytrukker (and Sammi-Jo's too).
Could you perhaps dig up the post that received the flag? After @jeanpi1908's comment, I got really curious whether it is a case of random flagging or not..
Hey there @simplymike, I think @krazzytrukker got hit with one of the random "camillesteemer" that still get scattered everywhere... 2% of 70SP, usually with 3% Mana left. Meaningless, but annoying and confusing to a newcomer. May also have gotten some "Bernie Spam" as a sideline to having interacted with @lyndsaybowes on cat related posts.
I had actually never heard of the so called SteemIt Defense League up until a couple of hours ago. I hd been investigating a series of flags that were given out, apparently randomly on posts and comments of newcomers as well as 'veterans', by 10 accounts. These accounts had a lot of similarities, so they had to belong to 1 person, or work together.
Annoying, bust also dangerous, because the biggest account has a 20 000SP delegation from Blocktrades.
So I had spent two or three hours collecting as much information as I could and putting it in a Word document. I thought about making a post, but thought it was too risky.
I didn't know where else to go than Steemcleaners, but apparently they don't deal with flag abuse. So they sent me to (looking it up) Freezepeach. Once I got there, they already knew about some of the accounts, so I gave them my info. It didn't take long before someone dropped the name SteemIt Defense League. Since I had never heard about it before, I did a quick search and found out about camillesteemer.
I visited Steemworld and was shocked to see how many downvotes were still being given by that account. And to so many people I know...
I did a quick comparison, but I think the group of downvoters I was investigating has nothing to do with camillesteemer. Their voting behaviour is completely different.
But so I got to 'meet' camillesteemer. We should all feel very lucky that the account only has 70SP left.
The other group is a different story. I din't remember exactly, but the 10 accounts tovether have about 35 000 SP. They can cause serious damage. And how low can you go if you start targeting innocent newcomers' introduction posts? There are so few that stick around, what's the point in chasing them away?
I'll probably wfite a post about it tomorrow.the people over at (looking it up again) Freezepeach have promised me they can counter the downvotes I'll probably get.
Idk how it was with camillesteemer, ut these guys have all bought a delegation from Blocktrades, and apparently they are looking the other way....
I don't get why people would intentionally try to destry others. Last week, I got a downvote from hashpanda, and although his reason for doing so was a little short-sided, he a
Could ag least give me a reason. One of which I can imagine it makes sense to a rebellious teenager.
But the random flagging... I wasn't even aware so mant posts and comments were being flagged every day again...I'm still a little shocked. Or I have bden lucky, or just simply so ignorant that I didn't notice. I thought it was just the whales like BS and H and FTG who were flagging just to flag. But the problem is a whole lot bigger than that.
And the fact that it seems to be random makes me furious. And that Blocktrades refuses to do anything even more...
Tomorrow, I'm going to try to find out is this camillestemer has something to do with this 'new' group(they've been acting like this for like 2 or 3 months now, so they are not completely 'new). If only I knew how and where I could find any info on a possible connection....
BOOM....! You nailed it. And you are right, confusing like WTF. It is a cat in a christmas tree and this Creepy Legion Wanna Bee or Grinch that stole Steemit gives Lil Hallie Blue the Stink Finger...(photo)
Glad to hear it was meaningless. Learning on the fly here.
Truck should be back from shop 2 maro. So I will be a very busy KrazzyTrukker trying to get back on budget for the next few months. I have already scheduled a run to Wichita KS. For monday delivery. I Hope I can still find time for this Steemit stuff!!
Thanks @denmarkguy
Posted using Partiko Android
Yep, I will look for it. It is probably in a post about a Cat.... Lol
Posted using Partiko Android
So I just noticed another downvote from our friend camillesteemer. On my Caturday post. Smh.
No worries tho right.? Just random....?
I wonder what put me on his radar..? Maybe they are allergic to Cats...?
Posted using Partiko Android
Freezepeach is a community service thatgives people upvotes if their rewards are taken by a downvote that was given without a reason.
Since no damage has been done, they don't need to act.
But if you ever notice an unrightful downvote from someone with a higher rep score than you, or when the vote is worth more than $0 and takes away your rewards, you can go totheir Discord channel to report it.
Here's the link: https://discord.gg/Z3AsMVU
No news on the fact whether itis random or not.
After the conversation above about that group of downvoters, I had planned to do some more research and write a post on it to see what else I could find out, but I must admit it completely slipped my mind...
Gonna write it down this time...
Posted using Partiko Android
His downvote was not worth anything, so he didn't take anything from your rewards. His reputation is lower than yours, so it shouldn't have any influence on your rep either.
Still, it's annoying.
Posted using Partiko Android
I double checked with the people over at the Freezepeach Discord channel and they confirmed no damage has been done
Posted using Partiko Android
Hi, @simplymike!
You just got a 25.63% upvote from SteemPlus!
To get higher upvotes, earn more SteemPlus Points (SPP). On your Steemit wallet, check your SPP balance and click on "How to earn SPP?" to find out all the ways to earn.
If you're not using SteemPlus yet, please check our last posts in here to see the many ways in which SteemPlus can improve your Steem experience on Steemit and Busy.
Hmm, I am about to do something similar one of these days (and doing it monthly). I must admit your post doesn't give me much hope of finding people to help. :(
If you take a look at the comments at the top of this section, you'll see that an idea was posted to code a script that pulls all users with the set criteria from the database. that way, you would have a list of potential candidates, which would make it a lot easier.
@sisygoboom said he would create such a tool. I just asked him if he was serious about it, because it would defiinitely come in handy.
Hey man, I'm a real cool dude.
I am afraid that number 1 is the true - to less newbie now.
Posted using Partiko Android
There are newcomers, though, but they often give up because of the RC limitations, or because of the random flagging that is going on. If I would receive 10 downvotes on my introductory post, I would turn around and never look back... :0(
what? Why so many red flags?
I haven't been following up today, but from what I found out it is just a group of accounts (maybe 1 person with 10 accounts) that go around and flag posts and comments. I couldn't find a pattern, so I'm guessing it's just randomly.
Of course it is worse for the newbies than for the veterans...