Can a post that is produced on palnet.io or tagged with #palnet earn more USD in PAL than STEEM?

in #palnet5 years ago

Apparently, the answer is 'yes' according to two comments I've read this morning which are displayed and linked below.

50/50 is fine. Palnet is doing a fine job of proving that. One of my recent posts earned more USD value in Palcoin than STEEM. That's only because more were willing to vote, so I received more votes, took a smaller percentage, but earned more, because of more votes. A very simple concept. source

This is true indeed as I have had the same experience. After all, a whale in Palnet.io could be a dolphin in steemit.com. I think every one should ensure that their posts appear on palnet.io. it is as simple as using the palnet tag. It is a win-win situation as far as I'm concerned. source

That's pretty flipping awesome isn't it?!

Authors such as @oldtimer, @edicted and @organduo have increased their stake massively in comparison to the airdropped amount, and if news like this is passed around, I can see more accounts upping their PAL stake too.

You see, if you don't self-vote with your Steem Power, why are you holding it?

I ask myself this a lot, particularly after friends tell me they are powering down because holding SP is of no benefit to them. I don't fully agree with this, but have a tough time arguing the point.

However, with PAL and 50/50, the risk of something shit receiving a flag, and 'nopal4u', the helsing of palnet waiting in the shadows, there does seem to be more benefit to holding a stake - particularly if you don't use much of it on yourself.

At present, there are 3985 accounts 'registered' (I'm not sure how you get to be on the list - perhaps an airdrop claim) but 'only' 1294 of these accounts hold any vested PAL. To earn a place in the top 50 PAL stake holders, and be able to issue around 2/3 PAL with a 100% vote will cost about 2000 STEEM - maybe less if you buy in smaller chunks and wait for the ASK to lower instead of chomping the whole lot at once.

2000 STEEM is about $820 this morning. Do you know how much it would cost to be the top 50 Steem Power account holder? About $150,000. I know which one suits my budget more.


Yesterday, 1212 unique accounts used the #palnet tag for a post or replied to a post with #palnet as the first tag.

Yesterday, 7659 unique accounts (not bloody individuals!) posted on Steem as a whole - 15.9% of these accounts are getting their PAL on.

I don't think the total will rise that much further in the short term though as many have collected their alt account air-dropped stake into one account. Funny that best efforts were made not to link accounts with transfers on Steem, and no effort was made on palnet. The best collection from alts I've seen thus far totals over 7000 PAL...

Anyway, not wanting to end this section on a bum-note, go palnet!


SteemDAO / EIP

Not that anyone asked, OK one person did, what my thoughts are on the proposed details of the next fork, but here is as good a place as any to write a little on this, in bullet-points perhaps.

  • Pretty scary that SteemDAO and EIP are potentially going to be rolled out together
  • SteemDAO was good for Bitshares, it should be good for Steem
  • A token 1%, half a %, something of a %, from (top 20) witness earnings going into the SteemDAO funding pot would have been a nice gesture for the 1 million users we have here 🤦
  • The 3 main components of the EIP (steemitblog, normie explanation) would have no positive effect on proceedings if put in place individually
  • Changing multiple variables at once usually leads to a failed experiment

In summary, I'm more in favour of the proposed changes than watching what has been happening here for the past year or two any longer.

https://steemit.com/steem/@abh12345/the-haejin-effect

https://steemit.com/steem/@abh12345/are-the-selfless-delaying-the-inevitable-essential

Cheers, have a good weekend, peace!

Asher

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Greetings @abh12345,
.....from bleujay/ bentleycapital

Thank you for such an informative post.

Yes.....you have Steemians talking......keep up the good work.

Cheers!

Thank you @bleujay!

I'm in favour of the change too. Not ideal perhaps and the bundling of so many changes together is never ideal in the development arena but I am even softening on that given the frequency of hardforks. And yeah, a token sacrifice by our glorious witnesses would have been splendid!

Go PAL!!

And yeah, a token sacrifice by our glorious witnesses would have been splendid!

This was maybe the main reason for my new strategy.

I unvoted most witnesses.

I think I might do the same

I also feel that part of Witness rewards should go towards SPS. I even wrote a post for it yesterday (https://www.palnet.io/steem/@xyzashu/hf-21-the-question-of-untouchability-of-witness-share-from-reward-pool).

But I don't know which witnesses are supporting this stance. Will you guys list the witnesses you voted up and those you unvoted for their opinions on HF-21?

I actually have no idea who is for and against it. I will try to find out!

I was wondering why you unvoted so many witnesses @oldtimer.
We also tend to agree with so many thoughts similar to yours and @meesterboom's about a portion of witness rewards being allocated there.
Unfortunately @actifit witness is not a top 20, so we do not influence the final say about the HF21.

Because I want to provoke witnesses to come out of the woods and explain their stance. It worked with you.
Actifit just got my vote back.

And @meesterboom - I was just about to go through my witnesses and unvote anyone in the top 20 who hasn't made a position statement either way.

It's quite a consuming task!

I don't actually have that many votes for the T20 anyway.

I'm just here about to reply to Asher's post btw, got waylaid by this comment thread!

Those in favour say - reasons they are not 100% for :) It's pretty tough to be confident about it all, and I got a telling off for just having faith and little else earlier today. What else do they expect? Me to grab a DeLorean and f off into the future to find out if it's going to be a balls up or not?

Naa, i'm going to the pub to catch up with some friends :)

It is tough to be confident. One can only hope.

But heck, the pub is where it's at. Have a great night man!!

While not a big fan of the bundle (the 3 core components of the EIP has to roll together) perhaps the "rarity" of HFs these days is because of exchange conditions as they have to prepare and do things for it too, as well as close wallets.

Yes that's right, too many and there would be pushback from them I'm sure, it's because of that I have realised that despite not being best, big bundles are just about the only way we will get anything changed.

big bundles are just about the only way we will get anything changed.

I tell my wife this all the time. Nothing changes.

I hope that the witnesses are testing on the testnet well and hopefully, it isn't as much a clusterfork as 20. Regardless, people will complain.

I hope they are testing too although worryingly there hasn't been a peep out of any of them about that. Just a little bit would go a long way. It's too late after the fact pointing fingers and blaming. Problem is though that most of them are Devs and they think testing is pointless :0D

perhaps @therealwolf would like to give some insight, he normally tests.

That would be good, beyond the notification of the testnet I am not aware of anything

Thanks for the shout out! By the way, I haven't powered down any SP to buy PAL, I used my own fiat money. I still believe that getting sufficient rewards in SBD is essential for my donations and contest prizes. Besides, if I powered down, people would get much less from my upvotes so I don't know if I should power down some SP to buy some PAL or not.

Oh yes, I didn't think you had powered down - apologies if I implied you had. Of course it is wise to have a stake in SP and PAL, especially as you are running contests and issuing prizes.

Thank you for the resteem and have a lovely weekend :)

Thank you! I know you didn't... I'm just very excited to see if PAL will outgrow Steem. Have a very creative weekend!

Go Pal! Is there a way for me to stake my Steem for Pal? If yes, do you know how i would do that? Love your perspectives. Thank-you for showing up Asher 🌸🐞🌼

As Asher said, if you want to sell Steem for PAL, you can do that, but you can't dual-stake the Steem as PAL and Steem Power at the same time. Have you staked your PAL from the airdrop already?

Ohhhh okay. I have staked my airdropped PAL. But, would be nice to maybe put some SP into PAL. Will have to think about powering down a but or maybe buying more Steem next time i get paid and buy PAL rather than putting it into SP. Choices! Choices. Thank-you for your input.

Your liquid steem?

If so, you'll need to logon to https://steem-engine.com/?p=balances&a=yogajill

And deposit your STEEM which will then be 'STEEMP'. Then you can go to the PAL market and buy PAL with STEEMP.

Thanks for the kind comments Jill, have a lovely weekend :D

Thanks Asher! Is there a way to stake SP in PAL instead?

So ...have I missed something, does palnet have to be the first tag to earn PALcoins? I didn't think so, but now that you mentioned it, I'm wanting to be sure. XD

No, the tag simply needs to be present on the post.

Ok, cool, thanks for clarifying.

I was also wondering what's the purpose of using palnet as first tag. I never use it as my first tag but still earn some PAL on my posts. So why first tag!

Seems like an I teresti g.set up and think I am going to take a chance on Palnet and see what happens. Thanks for sharing!

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It's certainly worth using the #palnet tag, and maybe you have some PAL tokens to claim in the airdrop to then stake and earn via curation. Good luck!

Thanks for sharing this insight. You know, using and reading about PALNet makes me feel like back in the days when I first started using Steemit. So much excitement and activity!

Really curious how things will be in let's say half a year (or even shorter like a month or so)!

Exactly how I feel when visiting the hot/trending pages on palnet. Let's see how things pan out, thanks for the comment.

Did you just bust the 50/50 myth? Damn you so many steemians are going to be butthurt when you say things like that!

Well they should stake their free PAL and get on with the palnet tag business!

Palnet has been rather fun. I even made it into trending on their for a few seconds the other day.

I am in favor of the changes, even though im new, I also think "Its Pretty Freakin Awesome!!" GO PALNET ! Awesome post @abh12345 upped , resteemed and still following ! 👌👍✌😎

Thank you Karen!

I see your name a lot on SteemMonsters, you are normally beating me!

Haha, only because I play a lot, but I lose much more then I win!! wish i had money to get or level up more cards, Love opening those ORBS too, always hoping to get lucky there, lol 😂👹😎 Best of luck to you, see you on the battlefield !

Ahh, well your record against me is very good!

I'd like to be able to buy more cards too - one day!

At least to pull an awesome card once in while is always welcomed when we cant afford to buy any like the top Rich players who have it all, lol!! 😂👹😂👹

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