CRITICIZED BY @ONEALFA FOR SELF-UPVOTING; HE DOES IT TWICE AS MUCH AS I DO

in #meme6 years ago (edited)

Good evening, Steemians.

My mind went numb a few hours ago when @onealfa criticized me for self-upvoting my own comment. To be fair, I did first upvote the original post. And, I was excited to share some good news and get my comment up closer to the top. This is allowed by the steem platform. So, it got me to thinking...

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How much do I really do self-upvotes? There's an APP for that:

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Then, it got me to thinking... How much does @onealfa upvote himself???
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Then it got me to thinking about math...

I made 91 votes. 19.7% of those were for myself. It works out to about 18 or 19 self-upvotes.

@onealfa made 273 votes. 14.2% of those were for himself. It works out to 38 or 39 self-upvotes.

@onealfa upvotes himself twice as much as I do!


It just so happens that I quit following him about one day before he came and started up this B.S. with me.


BUTT HURT MUCH?

What was my original comment and self-upvote about? I just made a YUGE (for me) cash buy-in of BTC on Feb. 12th and took about 20% profits 8 days later, on Feb. 20th, right before it corrected. Why? Because I watch @haejin 's technical analysis, among others, and I do my own TA - and it worked well for me, so I took my profits and bought a bar of silver! I was pretty stoked about that. I can't figure out why @onealfa is tweaked out about it. IDK, maybe he's been making some bad trades lately? His dog died? I just have no idea what my 5 cents worth of voting power did to ruin his day??? Did I "rape the rewards pool" of 5 cents?

Now, my "awesome" reputation of 51 is probably going to get "nuked" into oblivion. Is this what makes SteemIt a great place to be? Hardly. I never understood why a guy like @berniesanders has so much $$$ invested in Steem Power, yet he doesn't give a damn about his reputation rating...? Now, I think I understand why: it's because, at the end of the day, he just likes to say whatever he wants to say, and to hell with the consequences of the reputation score - IT DOESN'T MATTER. Whether your reuptation is 70 or -70, your Steem Power is still worth exactly the same
amount of money. Personally, I won't ever invest a lot of $$$ into Steem Power, or a ton of time into trying to "develop an audience" on SteemIt, simply for the fact that anyone with a difference of opinion, or who is just having a bad day, can come along with $100K of their investment and blow minnows out of the water for no good reason at all.

At the end of the day, all I need to do is open up my safe and take a look at my silver stash:

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Go right ahead and give my silver stack a big ol' thumbs down - it doesn't care! You can't hack it. It's still just as shiny and as heavy as it always was. And, believe me when I say that my stack just got a whole lot heavier in the last week than it used to be. So, does it matter if my SteemIt account is worth $500 bucks, or .50 cents? Not really. I'm not putting my money into it - because SteemIt is chock full of @$$holes that I don't like - and don't like me. I'm okay with that, and so is my stack. This is why everyone needs a stack! If you don't have a stack, and you have a butt-load of cryptos, YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG!

One final point I have to make:
@onealfa correctly points out that my self-upvotes on comments are at a much higher percentage than his own - something like 50% vs. 3%. And, that would be a fair point to make - until you look at the voting weight that each of us bring to the table. The total value of my self-upvotes is close to something like $1 or $2. The value of @onealfa self-upvotes is closer to $115. Who is "raping the rewards pool" here???

I rest my case.

This is boring me. I think I'll go and stack some more silver...

Any Questions?

P.S. Good, robust discussion & disagreement, done in good faith, can make a lot of progress. I'm following @onealfa again, and he upvoted one of my comments. It seems much ado about nothing but, actually, I think it is people trying to understand each other better - even if it takes some jostling about to reach an understanding.


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  1. Different people has different activity . So when talking about selfvotes what realy maters is the percetage % of the selvotes, not the numerical quantity of them.
  2. Steemreports does not count votes on the comments, only votes on the original posts
  3. I rearaly upvote on my comments. It may happen sometimes, when there is alreay a very LARGE QTY of comments under a particular post, and i wish my comment should come displayed higher and be noticed. In contrast to your coments which seem to be selfupvoted exclusively EVERY SINGLE TIME , Even when there are no more other comments under post, in other words "competition" is ZERO.
  4. The main difference between us two are this- i upvote (if i do) rearelly, and do this strictly for VISIBILITY purposes. You do selfupvotes (comments, not posts) exclusively for steem rewards. For money. From your greed. Every one who will look closer will see that easy. It is so obvious. Blockchain makes all things public.
  5. Go and count all those "single upvote" comments made by @bi5hop , where the only upvote they collected was from the same @bi5hop. You may even calculate the % of your comments - what part of them are as such. Then compare this % to mine. Everyone who will do this comparison, will get a clear picture "who is who"

I write a comment to have comment. You do this to bring yourself more steem $ from your selfupvote.
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Ok, so, let me get this straight:

When I upvote my comments, it's out of "greed." But, when you upvote your comments, it's out of want for "visibility." Thanks for informing me about how evil and greedy my motives are, as compared to your pure and virtuous motives. That's rich!

Nevermind that these huge sums of money you seem to think that I'm making from SteemIt wouldn't even fill up my trucks' gas-tank one time. Seriously? I have what, 110 Steem Power. That's chicken-scratch. If I powered it all down, over 13 weeks, it wouldn't even pay my rent for one month. I'm sorry to inform you that SteemIt is simply not something I rely on for income. It's an interesting past-time. Less interesting now that you criticize me for taking my 0.0000000000001% of the rewards pool each month.

Well, I guess that settles it. God died and made you the diviner of men's motives for why they do things. Good luck filling-in there. Those are some pretty big shoes to fill. You're going to need help.

You make some very valid points @bi5h0p and so does @onealfa. The problem I which both of you have mentioned is it's ok to upvote your comment for visibility purposes but not ok to upvote for income sake.

Yet you cannot know why a person is upvoting their own comment unless you ask them. I can see if the comment along the lines of LOL or Thank You, but if it is a legitimate conversation then that should be brought up. This seems like 2 differences of opinions, which would mean a gray area open to interpretation.

I admit, I am still pretty new to most of this. However, there seems to be 2 sets of rules. One the Whales use and the one for the rest of us. Seems to me upvoting your own comment for visibility or not is an abuse of the pool (if I am wrong please say so) Along with that thinking just because you can do something doesn't mean you should do it.

I have seen several Whales admit to upvoting their own comments and posts, even though no matter what they post they're making hundreds each post. While the community in general is positive it can be just as spiteful. There are legitimate reason to downvote someone...BUT OMG don't do that because they retaliate. (Broken system) You upset someone , such as a situation like this then again someone gets downvoted to oblivion (Broken System) As long as you don't offend anyone, question them and stay in your hole you're safe.

Kudos to @bi5h0p for actually saying something. At the same time though thank you to @onealfa for responding and trying to communicate.

Well, it's pretty simple to understand that SteemIt has basically become a failed social media experiment, and is now a place where people with money stand around and have a circle-jerk with each other while talking about what a "cool anarchist" and promoter of freedom they think they have become - and, if anyone with a lesser investment disagrees with them, they're going to suffer financial abuse and violence for doing so. That is exactly what #onealfa is doing here, and that is all he's been about - to me - as much as I have known or interacted with him on SteemIt: simply listen to and agree with all of my opinions, or you'll be punished - because I have more money than you.

That's not "social media" - that is "SOCIALISM MEDIA" - and, who needs that? They can send this crap back to Russia, for all I care any more.

All of his harassment of me began a couple of days ago - apparently because he's feeling butthurt that I quit following his failed, non-interesting, and non-relevant blog. I didn't say or post or vote a single thing to or about them - just simply stopped following them. Now, that is apparently some kind of a major offense on my part. Whatever.

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First and foremost, i have to thank onealfa for d bold step to point this self upvoting thing, and equally thank bi5hop whom i have been following for sometime, for braveness to speak up and not beg. Honestly dramas like this if properly direct will make d community more stronger. However, i did not really see much evil in self up voting compare to those who has no single faith in steem, but are in d community raking hundreds of SBD on their post. They dont reply comments nor up vote. And they make withdrawal almost on daily bases. The funny part, they have no investment money in the community. I wonder why and how they are getting those upvotes. I am not bold enough to mention names because of my long term goal here and d little reputation i have, i valued it so much. I have stopped voting for shit like that. I therefore use this medium to call on all sincere and genuine steemians, newbies and whales or sharks to watch those they up voted. Go through some back ground check and history before up voting. If this is neglected, the system will not be fair to d committed members.

It's always "nice to be nice." Treating people with respect and "getting along" with others is 85% of anybodys' success in life and making a living. And, a good reputation is something which is careful to guard and cultivate. It's not that I don't care about mine - it's that I care more about being a straight shooter than I do about what some strangers on a social media platform may, or may not think about me - in terms of my "social media reputation score." There's no point in receiving approval from "online friends" if I have to say and do things I don't believe in to receive their approval.

@bi5h0p As you are the owner of your blogs so you can do anything whatever you want. Other peoples shouldn't interfere that. It's completely wrong. Steemit gives us the feature for self vote. Sometime it helps us to rank our comments. Becuase we are giving them the right information. Isn't it?

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