The Truth About Vaccines

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An edited transcript of Episode 6, part 1

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Introduction

TY: Welcome back to “The Truth About Vaccines.” This is episode number 6. When you were a child, did you have the chicken pox? Were you aware that scientists have found retroviruses in many of the common vaccines in the CDC schedule today? These two topics, and many more, will be addressed in tonight’s episode. I hope you enjoy it. We’ve spent thousands of hours filming, scripting, and producing these seven episodes, and our goal with “The Truth About Vaccines” is to present this information in as clear, precise, accurate, yet unbiased method as is humanly possible, asking questions and interviewing experts who advocate using the scientific method to discover the truth about vaccines. So, let’s get rolling with tonight’s episode.

The scientific method

DR. PALEVSKY: In medical school, we were taught something called “the scientific method.” I blame my medical school training on what I’m about to say. We were trained to create a question, go through the steps of evaluating the answers to that question, and be willing to look at the data and not eliminate it if we don’t like it. Then come to some conclusion about our original question, even if we don’t like the conclusion we come to. The scientific method requires us to think and ask a question, even if it’s an uncomfortable question. In our current state of affairs, we’re not allowed to ask the question. That’s not science anymore. That’s ideology and dogma.

ROBERT F. KENNEDY, JR.: You saw the same kind of dynamics that we've seen in orthodoxies throughout history which is a misplaced faith in an undeserving authority which is the CDC. And then a need to silence any kind of dissent so that heretics get burned, there's no debate. We have to make sure that nobody even talks about this, nobody questions the received orthodoxies and the dogma.

TY: We want to question the dogma. We want to discuss the issues. But unfortunately, if there’s corruption within an industry, or company, or government agency, those who question are dismissed and even fired. Have you ever heard of the term “whistleblower”? This is a person who informs on a person o organization engaged in an illicit activity. For people who work for the federal government, the Whistleblower Protection Act, or WPA, protects federal employees who disclose illegal or improper government activities. Dr. David Lewis is one such whistleblower.

The fact is that both government and industry are increasingly using false allegations of research misconduct to discredit scientists who raise questions about government policies and industry practices.

DR. LEWIS: The fact is that both government and industry are increasingly using false allegations of research misconduct to discredit scientists who raise questions about government policies and industry practices. It’s something that I experienced myself. When I published research that questioned an EPA policy, then a large corporation in the business, I was looking at an environmental issue, land application of sewage sludge, accused me of research misconduct. And so, that went through a couple of years of litigation before the EPA was able to prove that the allegations were false. Oftentimes, even when a scientist is vindicated after such accusations, recovering their career is difficult. So that is an area that, fo the National Whistleblower Center in Washington, DC, I have worked for a number of years to investigate numerous cases where that occurs. And vaccine safety is one of those areas where it commonly occurs. As a senior-level research microbiologist, I was involved in directing research projects on everything from climate change to pollutants in the environment. And I got the chance to see from the inside how science is funded by the federal government, through grants to universities, to be published in the scientific literature. And having seen how the system worked, I became concerned about the process that science, within the EPA, and I saw the same thing at the CDC, the FDA, other federal agencies, and at the universities that they funded, was all geared towards supporting certain government policies and industry practices. Scientists who published data that supported the government’s policies, and certain industry practices that were economically important, became promoted, they freely published in the scientific literature, whereas if data were generated and researched that raised questions about certain government policies or industry practices, that research would be suppressed. Their research would not be published. So, it was a system of using public funds in that manner that led me to keep a lot of records. I ended up filing a number of lawsuits, whistleblower lawsuits, in order to keep being able to do my research regardless of what the outcome was. And my book Science for Sale documents that experience over my career. The issue of vaccine safety is an issue that I firsthand saw that certain government agencies and certain universities are manipulating the data in order to protect the sales of vaccines and to cover up any adverse effects.

Cover up any adverse effects

TY: Cover up adverse effects? This goes back to what Dr. Larry Palevsky said at the beginning of the episode. That’s not science. It’s dogma. It’s working backwards to arrive at a predetermined conclusion. But why would institutions like the CDC, who have been sworn to protect our children’s health, be engaged in ideology rather than science? DR. THOMAS: As a pediatrician, you're trained to believe that the CDC is the top. NIH and CDC are the top institutions where all the smartest people are, right? So, we just accepted what they fed us without questioning. That's where I was when I got out of medical school, and that's where I was from the first few years of my practice. That all changed in 2001 when they pushed the Hep B onto newborns because it made no sense. It is scientifically illogical and absolutely insane to inject that much toxin into a baby who doesn't even get any protection from the vaccine. We now have almost 20-year data—actually there are some 20-year data studies showing that the Hepatitis B isn't giving lasting immunity. So about 24 percent of 20-year-olds who got the vaccine as an infant still have immunity. So, when they need it most, when they're sexually active as late teens, 20s, they don't have the protection. That was when my blind faith in the CDC just went out the window. I started going “There's something going on here.” And sadly, those who really understand what's going on, this revolving door between CDC and pharma, that has been documented— I mean people who worked at very high levels in the CDC end up working for pharma. They're conflicted. I think, sadly, when you have conflicts of interest, people like to say, “Well there are no conflicts of interest here.” But there are, and they've been documented. DR. HOOKER: Many employees of the CDC end up in industry. Case in point, Dr. Julie Gerberding, who was the Director of the CDC from 2001 until 2008, took a very lucrative position as the head of the vaccine division in Merck in 2009. She was given stock options in the millions for that particular position. And so, she overnight became a millionaire. There have been other employees that have gone on to lucrative positions. There’s actually a revolving door between the CDC and the vaccine industry. Dr. Thompson himself came from Merck. He worked at Merck before he worked at the CDC. Dr. Frank DiStefano, who is the current head of the Immunization Safety office at the CDC, actually left the CDC, went into industry, and then came back to the CDC. And so, you have this incestuous relationship between the pharmaceutical industry and the CDC. So really, the driver is money. It is just like everything else. The driver is the almighty dollar, and the—when you get a vaccination on the schedule, when an individual, which could be a CDC employee, gets a vaccination on the schedule, that opens up a market fo that particular vaccine that’s in the billions of dollars.

The CDC has a conflict of interest because they are looking after vaccine safety, but they're also promoting vaccines.

NEIL MILLER: The CDC has a conflict of interest because they are looking after vaccine safety, but they're also promoting vaccines. So, we have to take the ability for the CDC to be responsible for vaccine safety. We have to put that into an independent commission. The CDC cannot be trusted to look after vaccine safety issues, because they have a conflict of interest where they are interested in pushing as many vaccines as they possibly can. That's a big conflict of interest.

DR. THOMAS: If viewers are not aware of this, people need to see the CDC, at least as it is today, as just a marketing branch of pharma. So, their job—I mean you can even look at their mission statement—is to promote vaccines. And if we could just change their mission to promoting healthy children, let's get healthy people, a healthy society, healthy children, and look at vaccines. Are they helping o not? And that's what hasn't been done.

The CDC sells vaccines

ROBERT F. KENNEDY, JR.: In our democracy, we have a number of institutions that are there to protect little children from predatory corporations and all of these have been neutralized here. You have the regulatory agency, the front-line protector of public health, that has been captured by the agency. They’ve become a sock puppet to the industry that it’s supposed to regulate. It's an arm of the pharmaceutical industry. CDC sells 4.6 billion dollars’ worth of vaccines every year itself and it owns the patent.

TY: Wait, CDC sells vaccines?

ROBERT F. KENNEDY, JR.: Yes, CDC sells vaccines. So, the CDC is regulating an industry that it’s a part of.

TY: Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. just stated that the CDC sells vaccines and actually holds patents on vaccines. I wanted to verify this, so I did a patent search. It turns out that he’s accurate. The CDC actually is listed as an assignee on over 50 patents related to vaccines, including flu, rotavirus, Hepatitis A, HIV, anthrax, rabies, pneumococcal, meningococcal, and several other vaccines. Does this seem like a public health agency that’s making independent vaccine recommendations, or does it seem like an agency acting as a risk management group that influences public opinion?

The CDC is not there to tell the truth. They are a risk management organization

DR. HOOKER: You know I look at this moment and I don’t know why we haven’t taken to the streets with torches yet. I mean this is manslaughter. And the carnage that has been laid on our society as a whole, not just because of thimerosal, not just because of the MMR vaccine, but because we’re all a part of this grand medical experiment that’s called a vaccination schedule, that’s understudied, that is only studied by the CDC in order to quell the masses. The CDC is not there to tell the truth. They are a risk management organization, and they are there to basically produce studies that will sway the opinion towards what CDC wants the public to do. And that is to uptake all of the vaccines that they’re recommending on the schedule.

DR. BARK: One of the things that I found was the advisory committees. Advisory committees at the FDA, advisory committee at CDC, because there’s a process to approve drugs—my focus at this point was vaccines. They go through these advisory committees, first at the FDA for approval, and then at the CDC for recommendation. There’s something called FACA, Federal Advisory Committee Act, which as you would imagine, says that anybody on these advisory committees can’t have undue conflict of interest, can’t be employed—

TY: They should be independent.

DR. BARK: It turns out it’s just not the case. At the FDA, the committee is VERBAC, that’s the acronym, and there’s one person who’s considered the consumer rep and all that means, is that they’re not employed by one of the major pharmaceutical companies, specifically.

TY: Really?

DR. BARK: Yes, that’s all that means. They’re usually MDs or MD/PhDs or nurses with PhDs. They can be somebody without an advanced degree, but commonly they are. Then, the same thing is true for the ACIP committee, which is the CDC’s committee on vaccines for recommendation. They also—it turns out that the CDC, on their website, automatically grants a waiver for the conflict of interest for anybody on the ACIP committee, because they believe that they need “experts” on the committee.

TY: The conflict of interest rules don’t apply to them?

DR. BARK: They don’t apply to them, even though they’re specifically for them. They’re for federal advisory committees. If the regulatory agency isn’t—then that’s what we’re talking about. It’s all about these federal regulatory agencies.

TY: Makes no sense.

DR. BARK: It makes no sense.

TY: As we see in many other areas of life, we look at how money is controlling decisions as opposed to maybe what’s good for the people.

When you speak about vaccines, that’s taboo. You can’t hear it. You’ll be shut down.

ROBERT KRAKOW: Well, unfortunately, I think that’s always the case. It manifests itself in many ways. So, you go through the history of other types of environmental agents that caused harm, you go back to lead. Well, there was an industry behind lead that resisted, the paint industry, in the 20s and 30s. Fluoride is another one that really has not yet manifested itself. Asbestos. WR Grace fought—the industry very aggressively, fought the idea that asbestos causes mesothelioma or other injuries. Tobacco was a primary example. That’s all about money. It’s all about industry protecting its interests, which is fine. The famous line in The Godfather, “After all, we are not communists.” And so, industry is fine. It’s fine for people to make money. I have no problem with that. When they cross the line is when it’s known, or at least strongly suspected, that injury is occurring. And because of those vested interests, we cannot even explore it. And when you speak about vaccines, that’s taboo. You can’t hear it. You’ll be shut down. Your research funding will be limited. If you come on as an expert more than a few times, they’ll start criticizing you so they undermine you ability to be an expert witness. Parents who speak about it, or newspaper articles, they get shut down. Columbia School of Journalism had an article showing how this occurred, and then they retracted it, saying there was no truth to the idea that a vaccine causes injury. We know vaccine causes injury. The government acknowledges it. It’s their policy. The issue is how often it occurs and how it manifests itself.

The captive agency phenomenon

TY: Conflicts of interest, apparently fueled by greed, are rampant at the CDC and other agencies. This is called “regulatory capture,” and it happens when special interest co-op policy-makers or political bodies, regulatory agencies in particular, to further their own ends. It’s very commonplace, as we will see.

ROBERT F. KENNEDY, JR.: There's a dynamic that is well-described and well-documented that I encountered virtually every day of my professional life, which is called “captive agency phenomenon.” That is the process by which agencies become captured by their own orthodoxies or by the industries that they're supposed to regulate. So, they become sock puppets for the industry that they're supposed to regulate. And a lot of times they become even more radical in protecting those interests than the industry itself.

DR. BARK: The EPA does consider aluminum a toxin. There are limits according to the EPA. This is where the left hand doesn’t know what the right hand’s doing. The EPA has all these limits on aluminum, on mercury. Of course, those limits are exceeded just within the first vaccine given on the day one of life, the Hepatitis B shot. We’ve got a lot of conflict. FDA is saying—NIH is saying it’s GRAS. The EPA is saying there’s toxic levels. We’ve got toxic levels exceeding a daily dose in a new born, in a shot given to the—

TY: Way over the daily limit. DR. BARK: Way over. I mean, many times over. This is— I’m just trying to point out the absurdity of all of that.

TY: Yeah, it is.

DR. BARK: I realized that the left hand doesn’t know what the right hand’s doing, and whether it’s intentional or not, I think that there is a lot of scientists and a lot of doctors who believe what they’re doing, they believe they’re working for the good. The doctors believe what the CDC tells them. They believe what the NIH says. There’s doctors at the NIH who’re doing really good work, and probably there’s a lot of really ethical doctors at the NIH, and probably some at the FDA and at the CDC. But overall, they have been captured by the regulatory agencies. G.

Dr. Gary Goldman came up with very serious evidence that the vaccine, although it did seem to reduce the incidence of chicken pox in the children, was actually producing another, more serious, condition that would occur late on.

EDWARD GRIFFIN: There was a Dr. Gary Goldman, who was doing research for the CDC, the Cente for Disease Control, working on gathering information on the effects of an anti-chicken pox vaccine that they were giving to little kids. And he came up with very serious evidence that the vaccine, although it did seem to reduce the incidence of chicken pox in the children, was actually producing another, more serious, condition that would occur late on. He found statistical evidence that could not be denied, that little children that received the chicken pox vaccine, when they reached maturity, especially when they got past the age of 40, they were more susceptible to shingles, which is a viral infection and it’s much more serious than chicken pox.

NEIL MILLER: One of the papers that Dr. Gary Goldman and I coauthored—and by the way, Gary Goldman worked for the CDC. When he worked for the CDC, he found that the chicken pox vaccine was causing increases of shingles, significant increases of shingles. And he tried to get that published, and the CDC blocked him from publishing that information. They allowed him to publish anything that was showing the chicken pox vaccine in a good light. But when he found that there was a problem with that vaccine that it was responsible for causing increases of shingles, which is associated with chicken pox, they blocked him, and they said, "This is our data. You can't do that." He said, "It's my data," and they went into a court battle, and he won that battle, and was eventually able to publish that information. Dr. Gary Goldman is an expert on the varicella virus, which is the virus that causes chicken pox. And that's why they utilized him fo seven and a half years, to keep databases and to document the various changes in society when they introduced the chicken pox vaccine.

Why wouldn’t the CDC allow Dr. Goldman, who worked for the CDC at the time, to publish a study that indicated that the chicken pox vaccine causes shingles?

TY: I don’t understand why the CDC wouldn’t allow Dr. Goldman, who worked for the CDC at the time, to publish a study that indicated that the chicken pox vaccine causes shingles, which is much more dangerous than chicken pox. But Dr. Goldman’s research wasn’t the only research that indicates that the chicken pox vaccine causes shingles. Research published in the 2011 Journal of Infectious Diseases confirms this link. The research team was comprised of members from NASA’s Lyndon B. Johnson Space Center, the University of Texas Health Science Center, University of Colorado Medical School, and the CDC. Let’s learn more about the chicken pox vaccine from board-certified pediatrician, Paul Thomas, who offers this vaccine in his practice in Portland, Oregon.

We’re even seeing [Herpes] Zoster in kids. That never happened before.

DR. THOMAS: For children, it's the varicella vaccine. Varivax. It's recommended at age 1 by the CDC. So, I had chicken pox. I'm guessing you did too, as a kid. My kids all had chicken pox. It used to be one of those rites of passage, right? It's not fun. It's itchy. You miss school for a week; most kids love that. Deaths from chicken pox are obviously always the big scare. And historically and traditionally, there were about a hundred deaths a year in the U.S. Almost always, it would be somebody who is immunocompromised. So, they were already at risk for death from some infection. But any death is not a good thing. We would like to prevent those deaths. So, in comes the varicella vaccine. The chicken pox vaccine. And in my practice, ever since it was introduced, I always have a number of families that didn't want to do it. They just felt like they wanted their kids to have natural immunity. The vaccine actually works fairly well. I just had a case of chicken pox yesterday at my practice. It's rare. I think I could count on one hand the cases I see in a year. We used to see it every week. Almost every day. We’d meet them in the parking lot so they didn't come into the office and contaminate everybody. It's very airborne. It's very contagious. And it's just not around anymore. But guess what is around now? Zoster. Herpes Zoster, which is actually a reactivation of chicken pox. And you can get Zoster whether you're vaccinated or whether you had natural chicken pox. And what we're now seeing is the elderly—but we’re even seeing Zoster in kids. That never happened before. But we're seeing the elderly are having debilitating Zoster and sometimes death from chicken pox reactivation, and that is now a new epidemic. And I've read—I don't remember the exact numbers, but we are losing more adults to chicken pox than we ever lost anybody to chicken pox prior to vaccines. So, what's happened? I'm pretty sure what's happened is, because the chicken pox vaccine works fairly well, kids aren't getting chicken pox anymore. Those kids who got chicken pox were actually the people who kept our immunity boosted through the years. So, my kids had chicken pox, they boosted my immunity. Well now the kids aren't having chicken pox anymore, nobody's getting boosted. Now you're having this rise in Zoster cases.

TY: Is that shingles?

DR. THOMAS: Shingles, yeah. And so, we've made a trade. From kids who got chicken pox and who could handle it to now the elderly and older people getting reactivated chicken pox, Zoster and shingles, and sometimes it's more debilitating, if not deadly at times. I don't think it's necessarily a good trade-off. I think we might actually be wise to just go back to letting kids get chicken pox. But it's so controversial.

When I was a kid, I remember the chicken pox parties that people had.

TY: The topic is very controversial today. But when I was a kid, I remember the chicken pox parties that people had. Dr. Thomas mentioned that today, the chicken pox vaccine is so controversial. It definitely contains some ingredients that evoke controversy. As we heard earlier in another episode, from Dr. Irvin Sahni, vaccines have to be grown in a substrate, which simply means that it takes living tissue to grow the microscopic vaccine ingredients. Animal, and even human tissues, are used as a culture medium to grow the targeted virus or bacteria used in vaccines. Today, vaccine viruses are cultured in chicken fibroblast cells and embryos, chick retinal and kidney cells, monkey and dog kidney cells, aborted human fetal lung fibroblast cells, and mouse brain tissue, to name a few. According to the CDC’s vaccine excipient table, the Varivax vaccine contains WI-38 and MRC-5 cells, both of which were developed from aborted fetal tissue. But chicken pox vaccine isn’t the only one that contains aborted fetal tissue or human DNA.

SAYER JI: Many vaccines in the schedule today take human aborted fetal cells, diploid cells, they are called, sort of to cover up the fact that they were harvested from intentionally aborted fetuses to be produced as antigen for vaccines that are being injected, mind you, into those that it completely violates their religious beliefs. If you’re a Christian, for example, I think that it’s pretty clear you don’t want to support abortion, and nor do you want to inject the byproduct of an aborted fetal cell into your own child to confer a health benefit to them.

TY: The subject of aborted fetal tissue in vaccines is definitely something to be aware of. Now regarding the CDC, I don’t want to give the impression that the entire agency is corrupt.

ROBERT F. KENNEDY, JR.: It's not the whole agency, by the way. It's a small number of people who have become corrupted. And mainly those people are in one office, which is the Immunization Safety office, and that’s the office that is charged with reviewing and conducting vaccine safety science. I think there are specific members of that group that have corrupted that group. There are two groups within CDC that are relevant to vaccine regulation that have been corrupted and that we should be concerned about. The first of those is the Advisory Committee for Immunization Practices. And that is the group that decides which new vaccines can be added to the schedule, so the recommended schedule that essentially becomes mandatory when it gets to the state level.

TY: RFK, Jr. mentioned that the Immunization Safety office at the CDC has been compromised. One whistleblower that came forward from that office was Dr. William Thompson, one of the top CDC scientists. Dr. Andrew Wakefield directed a documentary called Vaxxed, and that dealt with the story of Dr. Thompson’s discovery of corruption at the CDC and his subsequent whistleblower activities. Here is a brief summary of that amazing story, as told primarily by Dr. Wakefield and Dr. Bryan Hooker, both of whom were intimately involved.

William Thompson, the first insider whistleblower

DR. WAKEFIELD: William Thompson is the first insider in the history of the world to come forward from the Immunization Safety office of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and say “We have known for 13 years that there’s a causal association between the MMR vaccine used in America and autism in children, and we have covered it up. We have lied. We have committed scientific fraud, in effect.” And they have recklessly and knowingly put millions of children in harm’s way, to protect what? Their friends in industry? The public confidence in them? How is that going to look when this all comes out, as it will? And Thompson lived with this for 13 years. He actually, at the time, questioned the decision to cover this up. He questioned the decision to destroy documents. He questioned the decision to hide from the Institute of Medicine and Congress the fact that they had found this uncomfortable association between vaccines and autism. But he was silenced, and he went along with it. But his conscience got the better of him, and 13 years later, he came forward to a friend and colleague, Dr. Brian Hooker, father of an autistic child, vaccine-damaged child, and said “We have known for 13 years that these vaccines—this vaccine is causing autism.”

DR. HOOKER: They were cooking the books. And when they saw a particular effect that they didn’t want, then they would get a bunch of scientists in the room and they would look at how they could exclude cases of autism. How they could exclude cases of other disorders that they were studying, until they could actually dilute down that effect to the point where it was no longer statistically significant. In 2001, the CDC embarked upon what's called the DiStefano study. That was a study that they were going to use to absolve the MMR vaccine from the autism epidemic. They basically took a small study sample in metropolitan Atlanta. It had a higher proportion of African-American individuals, because that's the demographic in metropolitan Atlanta. And what they found when they originally ran the study was that African-Americans that got the MMR on time were about 2.5 times more likely to get an autism diagnosis versus African-Americans that received the MMR after three years of age, and so they delayed the MMR. They tried to bury this effect using statistics. They could not make it go away. So, the only recourse that they had was then in 2002. They brought in large trash cans and they just threw out all the information that showed that there was any type of association between MMR and autism, especially in African-American populations. Thompson was one of the co-authors on this study and he secretly kept all of his documents. When he was ordered to throw them all away by his superiors, he kept electronic records on his computer and said—

TY: Sorry to cut you off. With just that statement, they were ordered by their superiors at the CDC to throw away, to get rid of records that showed a result that they didn't want. They had documents that proved that the African-American male babies were at risk and they got rid of them.

A crime at many levels.

DR. HOOKER: They got rid of that evidence. I mean that's data fraud.

TY: That’s a crime.

DR. HOOKER: In the first degree. I mean it's a crime at many levels. I mean not only looking at the issue of the Federal Records Act in the federal government. It was enacted in 1950 and it has been amended, but anything that looks, smells, taste like a federal record, which undoubtedly these documents were, should have been retained on file and then ultimately should end up in the National Archives. And so, they weren't. They were handled completely incorrectly. On top of that, the results themselves were so alarming and the CDC knew about this effect as early as 2001. November 7th, 2001 was when Thompson originally presented those results to the rest of the research team.

TY: Wow. I thought it’s 2004. It's 2001. It’s even worse. Three more years that they knew about it.

DR. HOOKER: They knew about. They massage the data. They threw everything out. But Thompson in 2004 was conscience-stricken. And he was also set to do a presentation at The Institute of Medicine. The Institute of Medicine is the “independent body” that periodically reviews vaccine safety for the CDC. He was set to present these results at The Institute of Medicine, and he was conscience-stricken. He wanted to tell the truth at that Institute of Medicine meeting that there was a tie, a definite tie between the MMR vaccine and autism, specifically in African-American males. He tried to warn. He went and stepped over several levels of management, and he tried to warn Julie Gerberding directly, and he sent her a long email saying that there were problematic results that needed to be discussed, that would not be bear favorably on the CDC and on the current vaccination schedule.

TY: What was her response?

The CDC committed fraud regarding thimerosal-containing vaccines, not only with autism, but with other disorders like tics, speech delay, language delay, IQ.

DR. HOOKER: Her response—she never reached out to Thompson directly, but he was very soon after that put on administrative leave of absence. He received a letter of discipline in his file for insubordination because he didn't go to his direct supervisor, who was the one that ordered him to throw away those documents. And then he was replaced. He was not able to speak at The Institute of Medicine meeting, and instead his direct supervisor, Frank DiStefano, who was responsible for the data destruction, presented something that was totally fraudulent. By my estimates, if you look at the number of African-American males that have been born in the United States since 2001, since they’ve known, there have been over 100,000 African-American males in the United States that have been diagnosed with autism since that point in time. And you have to wonder if they would have changed the vaccine schedule, how many individuals would have been spared that lifetime of having that diagnosis? Of having those issues, of having the communication issues, of needing 24-hour care? How many families were destroyed because the CDC made the decision to bury that information? After I was out of contact with the CDC in 2004 and my only recourse was the Freedom of Information Act, nothing prevented me from emailing these characters and pointing out the flaws in their study. So, every now and then, knowing full well I wouldn't get a response, I would email somebody. I would email Frank DiStefano. I would email Robert Chen. I would email Bill Thompson. I’ve emailed David Shea. And all this time, I trolled for whistleblowers. I, once a year, twice a year, I would send out an email saying, “Hey, if you ever want to talk, if you ever want to come clean about this, here's my cell phone. Here's my private email. We can talk in private.” And then something happened in 2013 that really upset me and my family. In 2013, Representative Bill Posey did a congressional request and got about 10,000 pages of CDC documents. And I went through these 10,000 pages at his bequest, and I found where CDC employees, including Bill Thompson, including CDC attorneys, were talking specifically about my son's case in vaccine court. I was mad. I was like “This is my personal, private business. You have no right to talk about my son standing in vaccine court and about his particular medical condition and how that bears on how you can get me to stop talking to the CDC.” And so, all these documents came up, and they finally came up in 2013. So, I was mad. I sent some scathing emails directly to Dr. Thompson and said, “Look you had no right. These are children. This is my child and you're treating him like he's some type of statistic that gets you in the way of mind control for the rest of the United States.” Something clicked and within maybe three months of receiving these emails, I get a call. And it's Dr. Thompson, and he’s calling on his private cell phone to my private cell phone. When he started to reveal this information to me, he said “I'm going to start emailing you documents that show not only how you can get data from the CDC so you can independently do an analysis for all of these different studies” that he was saying were faulty and it's in some cases out-and-out fraudulent. He helped me get the data and when I saw, first of all, the African-American effect on the MMR vaccine. He said, “Oh, you found it.” And then the story started to unfold. He started to tell me that he saw the effect as early as November of 2001. He went to his superiors. His superiors directly told him that he had to find a way to bury that effect so it would not be reported in that particular paper. And so, he went through all that fraud. He also went through fraud that CDC committed regarding thimerosal-containing vaccines, not only with autism, but with other disorders like tics, speech delay, language delay, IQ. Where CDC specifically would either out and out hide the effect by not reporting it, o they would minimize the effect and dismiss it as being not statistically valid.

TY: So this was probably cathartic to him.

DR. HOOKER: Absolutely.

TY: To be able to help you obtain these documents, maybe a weight lifted off of his chest.

DR. HOOKER: Yeah. He said that when my paper was published, I did a re-analysis and I basically used the CDCs methods in my paper. I did a re-analysis and showed the data that was thrown in the trash can. He said that that was the most relieved that he had felt in 15 years. It was truly a big catharsis for him. He felt like he was getting the truth out and then rightfully he knew there would come a point in time where I couldn't just keep it under wraps, that there would be a time where we would need to blow the story open and out him as a whistleblower. DR. THOMAS: In 2004, the main journal that pediatricians read, it's just called Pediatrics, came out with a study. DiStefano, I think was one of the lead authors, saying that there was no link between MMR and autism. Because they had been charged—I guess the CDC had been asked by Congress to look into this. So, from then on, that next year, within that next year, the Institute of Medicine, the IOM, came out with a huge report, “It's been proven there's no link between vaccines and autism, no link between vaccines and thimerosal.” And they made this strange statement, and “We shouldn't study it any further.” I remember reading that going, “That makes no sense.” Because we were in the midst of a crisis in our country with regards to children’s health.

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