An edited transcript of Episode 6, part 2

African-American community

TONY MUHAMMAD: In every city, I have recordings of names of black mothers, of Latino mothers, of native American mothers, and poor white mothers, because that's a group that no one is talking about. The middle class is particularly aware, but the poor have no idea. In fact, in every city that I've gone to when I asked the black community “How many of you know what autism is?” No one raises their hands, hardly. They have no idea. I was invited to inner city schools by black educators. They say “Come in my classroom. Look at the black boys.” And when you look at them, 70 to 80 percent of them, they look spacey, they’re tapping on their desks, they’re not doing anything. You can’t get them to interact. I’m saying, “My God something is fundamentally wrong.”

They knew at the CDC that vaccines increase the risk of autism in young African-American boys, specifically boys.

MIKE ADAMS: They knew at the CDC that vaccines increase the risk of autism in young African-American boys, specifically boys. And if you look at the rates of autism in the African-American Community, guess what? It’s predominantly boys. There is a genetic and biochemical reason for that. The CDC was aware of that. They chose to cover it up. They committed scientific fraud. They altered the data to eliminate the statistical certainty of that conclusion. And they knew that over a decade ago. So, for the last, really 15 plus years, black children in America have been medically harmed, tortured, desecrated by a medical system that knew those children would have their lives destroyed; a medical system that said nothing. Just like the children in Flint, Michigan, who were poisoned by lead in the water. And that’s been called a crime against humanity. The EPA knew about that lead, and that the Michigan Governor knew about that lead. They did nothing. The crime against children happening in vaccines is a thousand times larger. It's not just Flint, Michigan, it's every city in America. Every population of young black children o African-American families raising kids, every population where those kids are getting vaccinated is currently being devastated by these toxic effects of the vaccine and an industry that knows it is essentially committing what we have to call medical genocide against black children.

Black boys are three times more—well no, I’m sorry, 296 percent more likely to become autistic than those children of othe races as a direct link to the MMR vaccine.

ALLISON FOLMAR: It’s unconscionable. And there has to be an awakening in the African-American community. We have got to reach out to ou churches, to our legislators, and have a voice in this. Black boys are three times more—well no, I’m sorry, 296 percent more likely to become autistic than those children of othe races as a direct link to the MMR vaccine.

TY: The CDC knew the MMR was causing autism in black baby boys and did nothing for ove a decade. I want to read a statement released by Dr. William Thompson on August 27, 2014. He said, “I regret that my co-authors and I omitted statistically significant information in our 2004 article published in the journal Pediatrics. The omitted data suggests that African-American males who received the MMR vaccine before age 36 months were at increased risk for autism.” Was this a criminal act?

DR. WAKEFIELD: It’s criminal on many levels. First of all, you’ve got the actual cheating, the fraud, the deception of people in the first place. The parents can’t get informed consent about the safety of a vaccine because they’re being told a lie, because the pediatricians are being told a lie by the CDC. There is a lack of informed consent to parents. They are unknowingly, unwittingly putting their children at high risk without knowing anything about it. Number two is that what happened when the CDC presented their data to the Institute of Medicine, when Frank DiStefano got up there and lied about the data, the message to the Institute of Medicine, the IOM, was that the MMR vaccine is safe. The IOM produced a report, which said “This vaccine is safe. There is no need for any further research to be funded on the possibility that the MMR vaccine is causing autism.” That went to the U.S. Court of Federal Claims, or vaccine court, and 5,000 children who had claims in that court were denied. Their cases were thrown out, in large part based upon the fraud committed by the CDC. And that is an obstruction of justice. Now you’re talking about a felony. Now you’re talking about a crime that will send these people to prison. Then you have lying to Congress. They have lied to Congress. They’ve lied by omission, by Coleen Boyle going to Congress, knowing these results of the CDC, being a co-author on that paper, and saying “MMR vaccine is safe. Continue as we are.” So, you have crime on—

TY: So many levels.

DR. WAKEFIELD: Multiple levels, yeah. That then should have been—it’s the biggest medical fraud in the history of the world. It should have made national news on every network, in every print newspaper. None. None of them touched it. Why? Because they’re owned by the pharmaceutical industry. They’re owned, and their script is written by the pharmaceutical industry. That is the problem.

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Advocacy for better medicine

DEL BIGTREE: I got into it because I was working on the daytime talk show, “The Doctors,” as a producer. I spent six years celebrating the best medicine has to offer, cutting-edge techniques, less invasive surgeries. I was always into how do we do this better? You know what I mean? Better medicine, better health. And then of course, I was sort of one of the more radical producers on the show in that I always went to stories where I thought corporations were getting involved or were overly involved in getting in the way of health. I did a story about Monsanto when the WHO ruled that glyphosate was probably carcinogenic to humans, the herbicide that’s on 90 percent of our crops. I was able to get debate on our show between one of the heads of toxicology at Monsanto and Jeffrey Smith, a GMO activist. So, I was able to pull things off like that. I’ve always sort of been challenging the status quo, I guess, and sort of the corporate takeover of things that affect our health. So, when I got involved and ran into Andy, and this story came about, I saw the data and I saw the proof, I saw—we have a whistleblower from our most important health agency, Dr. William Thompson, when I saw what he was saying in four hours of recorded interviews. And then not just making these statements but backing it up with 10,000 documents, including internal emails and data charts, I just sat there staring and thinking “Oh my God, this is the biggest story of my lifetime. This is the greatest medical fraud in the history of the world.” One of our top scientists at the most important scientific health agency in the world, the CDC, the leader of all health in the world, this scientist has come forward and given us proof that they’ve committed fraud. They’ve hidden the fact that one of these vaccines causes—can be causally related to autism. I mean that’s a shocking discovery. And so, if they’re lying about that, what else are they lying about?

DR. WAKEFIELD: What you’re dealing with here are people who have sworn to protect the health of the children of this country. It’s not just that they’re neutral on this, they have actually undertaken, as part of their professional and moral obligation, as part of the CDC, to be responsible fo the protection of the health of the children of this country. And quite the opposite, quite the opposite. They are deliberately, knowingly, and recklessly putting them at risk of a major, lifelong, debilitating disease.

DR. LEWIS: The specific case that I spent most of my time getting to the bottom of was the case of Dr. Andrew Wakefield and the research that he published in Lancet, which the studies documented the fact that a number of parents linked their children’s autism to the MMR vaccine. I investigated the original data involved in that case that were published in the Lancet. What caught my attention was a massive news media coverage of fraud, supposedly on the part of Dr. Andrew Wakefield in that study. I was able to go back and obtain a lot of the original documents in those experiments that the British Medical Journal claimed did not exist. When I reviewed those documents, I found that it was clear that Dr. Wakefield had not committed any research fraud. And so, I presented the results of my investigation on a panel discussion at Harvard University in 2011, showing that the evidence disputed the claims of research fraud against Dr. Wakefield.

Forced vaccines are in direct violation of the Nuremburg Code

TY: Dr. Wakefield’s research has been reproduced by at least 28 other studies. Let me ask you a question. In the first episode, we analyzed whether or not we are being given informed consent when it comes to vaccines. If we are not being given informed consent, then by definition, forced vaccines are in direct violation of the Nuremburg Code set up after World War II to provide guidelines for medical experimentation in the future.

MIKE ADAMS: Look at Nigeria. Pfizer used children for their vaccine experiments. It was so heinous and so criminal that the government of Nigeria handed down criminal indictments against the CEOs of Pfizer, called for their arrest. Look at the history of the United States medical experimentation on African-Americans and prisoners, and the NIH even funded medical experiments against people in Guatemala. This system of government and pharmaceutical interest has, for generations, exploited humans for medical experiments in order to maintain profit and power and control over the population.

NEIL MILLER: The CDC and World Health Organization went overseas and they had an experimental measles vaccine, and they experimented on black babies overseas in third world nations, and they found out that their experimental vaccine was a killer. It was killing babies at statistically significantly higher rates than if you didn't vaccinate those children at all. And then once they found out it was a killer disease, they said "You know what? Let's check it out and see if it does the same thing to American black babies. Let's go into the inner cities of LA, Los Angeles, and let's pick out the cities, the counties, that have the highest black populations and let's give them our experimental measles vaccine, so that we can determine if it's just babies in Africa, or if it has the same effect on babies here in the United States." And they did that until they got caught.

EDDA WEST: I could cry for all the children that I've seen damaged in the 35 years I've been doing this work. Catastrophically damaged, children who will never be able to function in any meaningful way. Families absolutely destroyed by the impact of vaccines on their children. Meanwhile, we have a medical profession and governments who are not only ignoring the crisis but they are completely—they are keeping a lid on it, on the corruption and the fraud that has existed in the science that has allowed this to continue on and on.

The CDC knew as early as 1991 that there was a problem with the expanding vaccination schedule

DR. HOOKER: For me this is very personal. There are documents that showed that Merck, who has ties into the CDC, knew as early as 1991 that there was a problem with the expanding vaccination schedule—the vaccination schedule started to expand in the early 1990s—and the amount of thimerosal that these kids were getting. Merck knew about that. They could have done something about that, and they could have studied it aggressively and truthfully back in 1991, way before my son was ever exposed to any of those vaccines. So, it really does hit home.

TY: This is a very personal issue for many families across the globe. According to Dr. Hooker, Merck knew in 1991 but they did nothing. Why? The Vaccine Act that was passed in the late 1980s that exempted vaccine manufacturers from legal liability gave rise to almost exponential growth in the number of vaccines that were mandated by the CDC schedule because there was no longer any accountability.

Vaccines don't have to do the standard double-blind placebo studies that the rest of the pharmaceutical industry

ROBERT F. KENNEDY, JR.: That act suddenly provoked a gold rush in the vaccine industry. When I was a kid there were—I don't even think the polio vaccine was patented. Nobody was making money on vaccines when I was a boy. They were essentially a civic duty by the vaccine companies, by the pharmaceutical industry. But suddenly, the industry realized “Now we have a product that the federal government is going to order a hundred million or even two hundred million people to buy.” The profit margins are huge. Some of these vaccines cost $300 per shot. There’s no advertising cost, there's no marketing cost, and there's no liability. And also, the process for approving those vaccines are streamlined. They don't have to do the standard double-blind placebo studies that the rest of the pharmaceutical industry has to do to bring its product to market. It's a streamlined process that’s very, very little in the way of safety/scrutiny compared to other drugs. So, there was a rush. A gold rush to put new vaccines onto the schedule. And the group within the CDC that made the decision about which vaccines to add, in a perfect world that would have been a group of kind of geeky scientists who are completely preoccupied with public health outcomes, and that’s what it used to be. By 1989, CDC structure had changed, and the people who sit on that committee, the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices, many of them are not even CDC employees. And almost all of them have some financial ties or conflicts of interest to the industry. I’ll give you an example. In 1989, CDC put Dr. Paul Offit as one of the great promoters of unlimited vaccines. He is a vaccine industry insider. He holds a chair at Merck, at the Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia, which is financed by Merck. And he sat on the advisory committee, when the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices voted to add the rotavirus vaccine to the schedule. Paul Offit owned a patent to a rotavirus vaccine. And yet, he did not recuse himself. He voted to add it. And as a result of that, of having the rotavirus vaccine part of that mandatory schedule, Offit’s was able to sell his product a couple of years later fo 182 million dollars.

TY: $182 million?

The pharmaceutical companies put more into lobbying, more money than any other industry.

ROBERT F. KENNEDY, JR.: Yeah. And we don’t know exactly what—how much of that Offit personally pocketed, but it’s estimated generally around 29 million dollars. So, he’s become a multimillionaire through conflicts of interest. The politicians have been paid off. The pharmaceutical company puts more into lobbying, more money than any other industry. You would think of oil and gas, that's number two, and pharma puts double what oil and gas puts in. Four times what military and aerospace puts in. There's more pharmaceutical lobbyists in Washington DC than there are congressmen.

Paul Offit

TY: I do admire Dr. Jonas Salk for his willingness to test the polio vaccine, not only on himself but also his own family. It certainly appears that the monetary factor was not a primary motivation back in the 1950s, but rather the desire to prevent illnesses like polio. However, things have most definitely changed in today’s heavily-lobbied pharmaceutical vaccine landscape. Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. mentioned that Paul Offit has made an estimated 29 million dollars on his Rotateq vaccine. This next brief video is courtesy of Vaxxed, and it’s indicative of the lack of willingness to debate this issue about vaccines. The cameraman, Joshua Coleman, the father of nine-year-old Otto Coleman, who was vaccine-injured at 17-months of age, asks Paul Offit if he is willing to have a discussion about vaccines.

JOSHUA COLEMAN: They wanted to see if they could get an interview with you, Paul. Are you up for that, an interview over on the Vaxxed bus?

PAUL OFFIT: Who are you?

JOSHUA COLEMAN: I’m just a camera guy.

PAUL OFFIT: No.

JOSHUA COLEMAN: You’re not interested?

PAUL OFFIT: Are you kidding me?

JOSHUA COLEMAN: Well, just we could talk about differences in opinion.

PAUL OFFIT: You know you can’t do that here, right? Get out of here. Get the f**k out of here. Really. I don’t want to talk to you.

JOSHUA COLEMAN: I mean I was thinking if you have the truth on your side, you’d be up for just having a conversation.

PAUL OFFIT: Get out.

JOSHUA COLEMAN: Alright.

PAUL OFFIT: I need to ask who you are.

JOSHUA COLEMAN: I’m just a camera guy, like I said.

PAUL OFFIT: Well, you have to go.

JOSHUA COLEMAN: Alright. Have a good one.

TY: Paul Offit has made millions on sales of his Rotateq vaccine, but he’s unwilling to have a debate. Perhaps in the previous video, he was just having a bad day.

DR. MARGULIS: I truly believe that Paul Offit is someone who cares about children and wants what's in the best interests of our children's health. I know that that's not a popular opinion among people who point out that he has gained a lot financially from being one of the inventors of the vaccine against rotavirus. But a backstory about that is when he was in training, he was in Appalachia, and he saw a child die. And that child technically died of rotavirus. And so, what Paul Offit said was “What can we do to fix this?” I mean he didn’t—Paul Offit did not create the rotavirus vaccine to hurt children. Paul Offit thinks that vaccines are a miracle of modern medicine. And the problem is, is that the rotavirus vaccine is very problematic. First of all, rotavirus is a disease that almost every child in America under five gets, and it's a pretty benign disease. It can put you in the emergency room. You can end up getting severely dehydrated, but you know we have excellent techniques to rehydrate kids. It is not a vaccine that a child in America needs. That's different if you go overseas and if you're talking about kids who are malnourished or kids who have no access to medical care. Rotavirus might be an appropriate vaccine. It’s not an appropriate vaccine for American kids.

it's a vaccine that has some real risks, and for me, the benefits are negligible, if any

DR. THOMAS: The first one that came on the market was clearly causing intussusception, an intestinal obstruction, and got pulled. And there's world data that that vaccine is still doing that. So, it's a vaccine that has some real risks, and for me, the benefits are negligible, if any. I've been practicing pediatrics for 30 years and I have had maybe two or three kids end up in the hospital for IV fluids, from severe vomiting and diarrhea that was caused by rotavirus. That's the worst-case scenario. If you live in a country, or if you live in a city, o if you live in a place where you can get to a hospital and get IV fluids, that's probably 1 in 10,000. I'm just throwing out that guess number just based on my experience. But it's a very rare likelihood that you're going to need IV fluids. And I've actually looked at my own data because since I don't do rotavirus, I thought I should look at the data and see, are my kids sicker? Are they having more vomiting or diarrhea? Are they ending up in a hospital more often? And you might be surprised to find out, the rotavirus patients that would join my practice, they’d already gotten that vaccine, had more diarrhea, more vomiting, more ER visits, way more office visits. For what? Vomiting, diarrhea, gastroenteritis. So, the data doesn't support using that vaccine at all. Period. There's one other fact that people may not know about that vaccine. If you don't start that vaccine by nine months of age, you can't give it at all. You have to give it to little tiny babies.

TY: The rotavirus?

If you're one year old o two-year-old, you can't take that vaccine, you might say, well why? Well, it makes us sick. It clearly makes us worse. It's dangerous for us. But somehow, it's okay to give it to a two-month old with a very immature immune system.

DR. THOMAS: Yes, if you're one year old o two-year-old, or you are—you can't take that vaccine, you might say, well why? Well, it makes us sick. It clearly makes us worse. It's dangerous for us. But somehow, it's okay to give it to a two-month old with a very immature immune system. You're putting a live virus that's contaminated. These vaccines are not pure. They’re contaminated with other viruses. Both vaccines that are on the market have been proven to be contaminated. It makes no sense.

BARBARA LOE FISHER: In 2010, actually, FDA officials did acknowledge that there was porcine circovirus, that’s a pig virus, PCV1, in GlaxoSmithKline’s rotavirus vaccine. That is a rotavirus vaccine given to young infants to prevent diarrhea. They also found PCV2, which is another porcine pig virus that is actually lethal to infant pigs, it causes a wasting disease. This is DNA from these two pig viruses they found in the rotavirus vaccines. There was a temporary suspension of GlaxoSmithKline’s rotavirus vaccine; there never was a suspension of Rotateq.

The rotavirus vaccines

SAYER JI: Paul Offit, who is now presently the spokesperson for vaccine safety, has a patent on the rotavirus vaccine, which has been already acknowledged to have so many problems because of surreptitious viruses. Porcine circovirus was discovered in the Rotateq virus vaccine. Then you have the discovery of what are known as endogenous retroviruses within vaccines like the Rotateq, which are able to infect children with a virus that goes into potentially their germline, which means that it can be passed down to the next generation.

These viruses, it’s a retrovirus. It’s the same category as HIV, which is associated with AIDS, right? These are very problematic if not potentially cancerous viruses. In fact, Judy Mikovits, who’s on our advisory board, wrote a book called The Plague. It’s all about what has been known for quite some time. Amazing book. It is so important that, if you haven’t heard it, that’s probably why, because they are doing everything in their power to suppress this woman’s work.

These viruses, it’s a retrovirus. It’s the same category as HIV, which is associated with AIDS, right? These are very problematic if not potentially cancerous viruses. In fact, Judy Mikovits, who’s on our advisory board, wrote a book called The Plague. It’s all about what has been known for quite some time. Amazing book. It is so important that, if you haven’t heard it, that’s probably why, because they are doing everything in their power to suppress this woman’s work. They literally put her in jail for her advocacy and her discovery because they were so scared of the implications. It means that the entire biologicals category of pharmaceuticals, which includes vaccines and blood products and monoclonal antibodies, may be infected with viruses that literally cause cancer and all types of neurological issues. There’s no way you can recall them because they’re in the actual vaccine production process themselves.

There's no reason to be giving the rotavirus vaccine.

DR. MARGULIS: I actually believe that it's a pretty effective vaccine, it's really worked to take rotavirus out of circulation, but what has been the effect of that? Well one of the effects has been that we now have anothe virus called norovirus that is much more virulent than rotavirus. Last year there were schools that were closed down because so many kids got norovirus and they had violent diarrhea, violent vomiting. They were literally vomiting in the hallways, and they had to close several schools. The theory that I have behind that is that since rotavirus, which was relatively benign, that almost every child in America got before age five and recovered from—no child in America has ever died from rotavirus with the exception of that kid that poor Paul Offit saw when he was a young doctor. Kids in America don't die of rotavirus. There's no reason to be giving the rotavirus vaccine. Now that we have it and now that it was so effective, we've created a situation where norovirus can become virulent and now we're seeing even more problems. So, we had a vaccine that we thought could solve problems and it's actually creating more problems than it solved. There is no question that rotavirus is one vaccine that should no longer be on the schedule. I think he's wrong in his fanaticism of defending vaccines. It's like Paul Offit has stopped thinking. It's like he's just defending, defending, defending. If Paul Offit could just take a deep breath and take a look at the science that he loves to cite, he would realize that some of what he's recommending is actually wrong. It's very hard to admit that you've been wrong.

Kids in America don't die of rotavirus.

ROBERT F. KENNEDY, JR.: In 2008, the inspecto general of HHS did an investigation of that scandal. And what they concluded, that up to 97 percent of the people who sit on those committees could have the same kind of conflicts as Offit.

XMRV, xenotropic murine related virus in vaccines

TY: Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. quoted a study that indicated 97 percent of the people that sit on these regulatory committees have conflicts of interest. How can they be independent? Sayer Ji mentioned retroviruses being found in the rotavirus vaccines. He also mentioned Judy Mikovits, a scientist who worked for the National Cancer Institute for almost three decades, and who began to find XMRV, xenotropic murine related virus in vaccines. You were with, for 30 years, the National Cancer Institute. Is that correct?

DR. MIKOVITS: 20-some, yeah.

TY: 20 something years.

DR. MIKOVITS: 33 years as a collaborator with Frank Ruscetti, who was at the National Cance Institute for more than 40 years. TY: What’s XMRV stand for?

They found it in prostate cancer patients and they hypothesized that, in fact, if you have an inability in you immune system to degrade certain viruses, then they’re going to contribute to the most aggressive forms of prostate cancer.

DR. MIKOVITS: XMRV stands for Xenotropic Murine Leukemia Virus-Related Virus. What this virus was, was described by Joe DeRisi and Bob Silverman, by a technology that found sequences of this virus in prostate cancer patients. They didn’t find it in people without an inability in their immune system to break down these viruses. What they found was in prostate cancer patients, this mouse-related leukemia virus. It causes leukemia in mice. They found it in prostate cancer patients and they hypothesized that, in fact, if you have an inability in you immune system to degrade certain viruses, then they’re going to contribute to the most aggressive forms of prostate cancer.

TY: You’re talking about viruses from a mouse?

DR. MIKOVITS: Yeah. The question is how did it get in the human population?

TY: Right.

DR. MIKOVITS: Well, a paper that was published in 2011, an opinion paper by a guy named Bob Berkau, who worked a lot in HIV AIDS, when I was in the HIV AIDS in the ‘80s and ‘90s. He wrote a paper that said, the most likely place that these mouse-related viruses were introduced into the human population, were vaccines. Because we grow all our vaccines and all ou biological drugs, think about all of the “mabs.” Rituximab. All of the therapies that we’ve used in the last 20 years are all monoclonal antibodies, and those are all mouse-derived therapeutics. What we learned was, in fact, the mouse-derived viruses were coming right along and carried into the therapeutics, and we didn’t recognize that pieces and parts, and actually fully functional viruses were contaminating ou vaccines, including MMR.

You can’t track a retrovirus that has been woven into the intracellular DNA.

DR. TENPENNY: What’s equally as bad as those ingredients to me are the stray viruses in the viral contaminants that come off of the animal cells that the vaccines have grown in. Those retroviruses could be incorporated into the DNA of children and adults that we don’t even know what the outcome can be because you can’t track a retrovirus that has been woven into the intracellular DNA.

DR. MIKOVITS: There is reverse transcriptase activity in MMR vaccines recognized since 1994.

TY: What do you mean by reverse transcriptase?

No. We won’t perpetrate this crime on another generation.

DR. MIKOVITS: Reverse transcriptase is an enzyme that only retroviruses have. And so, what it does is it reverse transcribes, writes backwards, the genome, which is RNA, into DNA. And then it inserts itself into you DNA and stays there for your lifetime and for generations after that. Reverse transcriptase is a hallmark of the presence of a retrovirus. So, in 1994, our government, the UK government, the WHO, the World Health Organization, everybody accepted and talked about and discussed in Institute of Medicine meetings, the presence of reverse transcriptase in the MMR vaccine and whether or not it posed a threat. Well, fast forward to 2011. Our work, and the ramifications of our work, said “Absolutely it makes a difference. And absolutely it makes a difference. Absolutely it’s there. And oh, my God.” It was the big “Oh my God” moment in our book, in Plague, where we presented these data. And they basically said ”We can’t stop this. They’re everywhere. They’re in our lab workers. They’re in our doctors. They’re in our nurses.”

We introduced, unwittingly and unknowingly, into the human population, a new family of retroviruses that has long been associated with cancers, leukemia, lymphoma, neuroimmune disease, including Alzheimer’s, Parkinson’s and such.

And so, we’re looking at the very explosion of these diseases in our world today. And when the government realized how big it was, it was “Will we tell the truth? Will we say we introduced it by a contaminated blood supply or contaminated vaccines? No, we won’t. We’ll just make sure Judy Mikovits and Frank Ruscetti go away forever and that nobody eve believes a word they said in that this work is all fraud.” But the one little problem they had was I wouldn’t sign that piece of paper. I wouldn’t agree. I wouldn’t say it. The data supported it. We’ll continue talking about the data. And neither would Dr. Ruscetti. They tried to basically get us to refute our data, deny our data, throw away or destroy our original data showing the infected families and populations and we refused. When we refused, we were fired. I told them, “No. We won’t perpetrate this crime on another generation. We’ve already done it for 25 years. We’ve already denied the viruses associated with these diseases for a generation and I won’t do it again.”

TY: Good for you.

They fired me, they jailed me, they held me in jail without ever having a hearing, they engineered the studies.

DR. MIKOVITS: When I said that, well, when I said, that they carried out their threat. They fired me, they jailed me, they held me in jail without ever having a hearing, they engineered the studies. At one time, Ian Lipkin was on the phone with Frank Ruscetti and my husband and the people holding me in jail, basically ransoming my freedom for samples in his study. If I step foot on the NCI property and the labs I grew up in, to carry out the experiments to show whether or not this virus is actually—o these viruses are actually a problem in these diseases, I will be taken off campus by security. I will be arrested. I was arrested within a day or two of that in my home. For no reason, without a valid search warrant, with all of my civil rights denied, which have been denied to this day. Which have been—I’ve never had a single hearing. I’m essentially a public enemy.

You were convicted without a hearing?

TY: You were convicted without a hearing?

DR. MIKOVITS: Yeah.

TY: Basically

My freedoms have been removed. I was forced into bankruptcy, fraud in a federal bankruptcy court under threat of going back to jail.

DR. MIKOVITS: Exactly. My freedoms have been removed. I was forced into bankruptcy, fraud in a federal bankruptcy court under threat of going back to jail where my lawyer sat calmly in the chair and I said, “Oh that’s ridiculous, there is no new evidence.” He looked at me and he said, “There was no evidence the first time, was there?” You either file bankruptcy which they take away your economic ability to survive. You can’t travel to meetings like this. If it weren’t for Teri and Ed Arranga and Health Focus who has sponsored my travel, I wouldn’t be here, and then you can’t talk. They have a lot of ways of silencing you. Of course, I’m spending my husband’s little retirement that he has in social security to go off and talk. What’s going to feed our family? What’s going to pay the bills? That’s all we’ve got is, my 77-year-old husband’s retirement. It’s crazy. For most people, they get away with it. They didn’t succeed because I was blessed. A lot of friends came in. A lot of people like Terry and Ed. Lot of people said, “We won’t let you fall down Judy, please don’t sign the paper.”

The science is never settled

TY: Judy Mikovits has amazing conviction and ethics. She wouldn’t sign the paper stating that her studies finding retroviruses in vaccine were fraudulent because they were true. This is an incredible case of suppression of data and persecution of a doctor who just wanted to tell the truth. Considering the exponential increase in autoimmune diseases over the past 30 years, is it reasonable to suspect that injecting foreign genetic debris, including retroviruses, like Judy Mikovits discovered, wreaks havoc with natural immune functions? Does this have scientific plausibility? I was just reading an article entitled “The Science of Vaccines Is Settled.” But is science ever truly settled?

Our government made the declaration that this controversy, the issue about whether thimerosal is causing autism, should no longer be studied.

ROBERT F. KENNEDY, JR.: In the 2003 and 2004, the Institute of Medicine, which is supposed be the arbiter of medical science in our government made the declaration that this controversy, the issue about whether thimerosal is causing autism, should no longer be studied. That it was settled now. No scientist ever says that. Every hypothesis is subject to further adjustments and challenge. That's what science does. It challenges existing hypothesis and says “Is this real? Do the facts that we now know today support that hypothesis, or do we need to rethink it?” They declared no more study should be done and the NIH and CDC and all the institutions got in lockstep of that and said, “We’re going to defund anybody who wants to look at this question. We're going to make sure that they're not funded.” And that's what's happened ever since.

The first day in science, what they teach you is science is never settled.

DEL BIGTREE: If you’ve ever taken a science class, the first day in science, what they teach you is science is never settled, that you must always keep questioning. We wouldn’t have Einsteins. Where’s the new ideas come from? You wouldn’t have scientific breakthroughs—

TY: The world would still be flat.

The world would still be flat.

DEL BIGTREE: Right. The world would still be flat. The earth would still be the center of the universe. It’s the constant question that keeps science advancing. And when you hear this statement from almost every politician and every scientist, all the way down to Sanjay Gupta, who we all trust, “The science is settled.” That’s the least scientific statement you could ever make. It’s not settled. It can’t be settled. That statement is anti-science by definition.

DR. THOMAS: The science is never settled, because here's the thing. When I grew up, I got one or two vaccines. And as far as I know, they were fairly safe back then, even though they were probably nowhere near safe. But I grew up in a less toxic world. I grew up in Africa. We ate out of our local vegetable garden. There was no pesticides or herbicides. We ate the stuff as it came. We started adding more and more vaccines, for example. But at the same time, we're adding pesticides and herbicides and thousands and thousands and tens of thousands of chemicals that are just in our world. And you give that same vaccine today and it might have a different outcome. Then when you keep adding vaccines you have to start all over with the research because it's never been tested. MMR in the schedule. Now let's add, back in ’87, the HIB vaccine and in ‘93 the Prevnar, and then we moved the Hep A down and the Hep B down, and we added the rotavirus and then we added the meningococcal, and we've added Gardasil now for teenagers and we add, add, add, add, add. Every time you add the science is unknown. We haven't even studied it. So, we've got to keep our scientific minds open and start looking at what we're actually doing and unless you look you don't know. These parents who have concerns, I applaud you. They’re legitimate concerns and until you can show me the science, you should be skeptical.

DR. TENPENNY: Science is never settled. The more vaccines that they add to the schedule the more complex it is. Think about just from adding ingredients when you’re baking cookies. The more ingredients you put into your soufflé or whatever, it creates a more challenging problem. So, the science is never done. It’s disturbing that many people, who have spent as much time as I have and others have investigating the problems with vaccines, and have come across from anywhere from 700 to 1,500 articles that have been published in the mainstream medical journals showing the problems associated with vaccines, that we’re called anti-science when what we’re doing is presenting an argument using their science.

This docu-series was created to spur discussion and debate and to provide real scientific studies on the safety and efficacy of vaccines.

TY: This docu-series was created to spur discussion and debate and to provide real scientific studies on the safety and efficacy of vaccines. In order for this to happen, we must always share the truth and be honest. The bottom line is that our children deserve honesty and they deserve truth. They deserve to be protected. They deserve to be safe and healthy.

If you start looking at the statistics in terms of children's health and you see, our children's health is really compromised.

DR. MARGULIS: If kids in America were really healthy, we would know we were doing things right. The proof is in the pudding. If you start looking at the statistics in terms of children's health and you see, our children's health is really compromised. So, we need to figure out together what is going on. And one of the problems is that we have an overly aggressive vaccine schedule that is not based on the current science. Let's have a conversation, let's have a debate, and let's actually do some real science around these issues so we can figure out which vaccines are safe, which vaccines are necessary, and how do we best protect our kids. I'll say it again. We all care about the same thing, we care about healthy kids. Nobody wants an infectious disease. Nobody wants to see a recurrence of measles or polio o anything else. That's not what this is about. What this is about is making sure that we're not compromising our children's immune systems as we're trying to protect them against certain infectious diseases. And that is actually what's happening. So, what's happening is that we have such an aggressive vaccine schedule, we are doing too many too soon, and because of that ou children's health is suffering.

They got an MMR vaccine. They developed bowel problems and they regressed into autism.

DR. WAKEFIELD: It’s been an interesting ride for the last 20 years. But we did what we should have done, and that is listen to parents who came to me and said “My child was fine. They were developing normally. They got an MMR vaccine. They developed bowel problems and they regressed into autism.” I knew nothing about autism, but I did know a lot about inflammatory bowel disease. So, the symptoms in these children clearly merited investigation. We got them together with the world’s leading pediatric gastroenterologist, Professor John Walker Smith and his team, and we investigated them. The parents were right. The children had an inflammatory bowel disease. And when we treated that in the way that you would treat, say Chron’s or colitis, then not only did the bowel symptoms improve, but the cognitive symptoms improved, the autism improved. It didn’t go away, but it made a huge difference to the child’s quality of life. So, beginning of a very interesting journey. We published the first 12 cases in the Lancet paper, where we explicitly said, “This does not prove an association between MMR vaccine and the syndrome described, the bowel disease, the autistic regression. This needs furthe research.” That’s what we said. It’s been the most misrepresented paper in the history of the world.

The children had an inflammatory bowel disease. And when we treated that in the way that you would treat, say Chron’s or colitis, then not only did the bowel symptoms improve, but the cognitive symptoms improved, the autism improved.

TY: Absolutely.

DR. WAKEFIELD: I doubt many people have actually read it. But they clearly have an opinion on it. So, then through Rupert Murdoch’s News International, The Sunday Times, freelance journalist Brian Dear, who I believe is a hitman for Glaxo-Smith Kline, but that’s my opinion, came forward and proceeded to dismantle my career, the paper, and tells some extraordinary lies about it. Ultimately claiming that I committed fraud, when in fact, there were 13 authors on that paper, many of them the world leaders in their field. The idea that I could singlehandedly commit this fraud, sneak it under the carpet, when all of these people had to sign off on the paper, who between them have published some several thousand papers in peer reviewed journals, this one, they just took their eye off the ball? I don’t think so.

TY: That’s absurd.

What happens to me actually doesn’t matte at all. It’s irrelevant. What happens is that we do the right thing, we stop this problem, we stop children getting injured, and we make the world a healthier place for kids to grow up.

DR. WAKEFIELD: Professor Walker Smith, coming to the end of his career, an unimpeachable career, writing the textbooks that train the pediatric gastroenterologists today, would commit fraud, would commit all of these sins, would not investigate children on clinical need, but to experiment on them? When? At the age of 60-something, when he was about to retire? I don’t think so. It was so fanciful, that they made it so complex and they had such a powerful mechanism o vehicle through which to distribute the message, the mainstream media, The Sunday Times, in England, that it became very difficult as a single individual to do anything but just roll with the punches. Take it all, assemble it into the truth over many years, and then come back. And now for the first time in 20 years, with William Thompson coming forward, with a story that essentially investigated a hypothesis that we gave them all that time ago. We gave the CDC a hypothesis that we believe it’s age of exposure to MMR that’s the risk. The younger you are when you get it, the greater the risk, which would explain why not every kid who gets MMR would be at risk. Part of the problem may be age of exposure. They tested that hypothesis, found it was correct. And Thompson said to me, in text, he said, “You paid the price for my dishonesty, and I hope I can help to restore your career.” What happens to me actually doesn’t matte at all. It’s irrelevant. What happens is that we do the right thing, we stop this problem, we stop children getting injured, and we make the world a healthier place for kids to grow up.

I forgive you completely and without any bitterness.

TY: Despite the fact that Dr. Andrew Wakefield’s career was destroyed, because of some of these happenings within the CDC, I want to read what he says in response to Dr. William Thompson, his text. Dr. Wakefield says, “I forgive you completely and without any bitterness.” I hope you’ve enjoyed this 6th episode of “The Truth About Vaccines.” Tune back in tomorrow night. You’re not going to want to miss it, because we give you some alternatives to vaccines for those people that do not want to vaccinate, and we also address the extremely important topic of freedom of choice with vaccinations. Please tell your friends and family, and we’ll see you next episode. Join the movement, support the mission, save lives. We’re a small company that’s dedicated to sharing the truth and dedicated to helping humanity. When you support our mission by owning the complete series today, you enable us to continue to research, to interview, to expose and to share the truth absolutely free, just like we’re doing today. If you’ve learned something, if you’ve been inspired, if you want to help save lives, or if you just love the way that it makes you feel when you donate to a worthy cause, then please consider owning the complete series, “The Truth About Vaccines,” today. As always, a portion of each sale is donated to charities that are doing real research to help our kids be healthier and safer. Simply click the banners below to join the movement and support the mission. Thanks in advance. The Truth About Vaccines

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Previous posts about vaccines:

• The Truth About Vaccines Video Docu-series - Episode 1
• transcript of Ep. 1 part 1
• transcript of Ep. 1 part 2
• transcript of Ep. 1 part 3
• The Truth About Vaccines Video Docu-series - Episode 6
• transcript of Ep. 6 part 1
• transcript of Ep. 6 part 2
• The Truth About Vaccines Video Docu-series - Episode 7
• transcript of Ep. 7 part 1
• transcript of Ep. 7 part 2

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