Who is @baah? Who cares? ...... information warfare - up close and personal..

in #blog5 years ago

This in reply to @baah (or whoever he really is)..

So let's get started...

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Code is written by human beings and writing code is an action.

Your lack of comprehension -or attempts at conflation - are getting very predictable and boring. Must do better.
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I have no dilemma about equity.
You keep reiterating it - as someone else has also done - in the same vein.
It appears that by your continued repetition of my apparent issue with equity - of which i have non - has some importance to you - or it is a very blunt attempt to undermine my argument.

If it is the latter, then it is fear of the truth that will be the motivating factor.
Fear of losing power?
Fear of Losing money?
I dunno...

My issue is with a non ethically based system where ethical behavior is not embedded in code , and of Steem FAILING - because of the very lack of ethical code in the system.

It's not rocket science - (well it might count as such, for baahl and other mentally ill individuals)..and it is an uncomfortable reality for those with personality disorders.
The mask comfortably worn for the last 3 years, will be removed if there is any change towards ethic.

The fact I get attention of the TBTB in steem is telling. (baah being the useful lap dog/employee/fake person)...
The only time is when I write about these subjects... it tells you a lot..(they are too fuckin' stupid to change their behavior)
One stupid person following another greedy person, does not wisdom, make.
(Stupid people love the collective as it can can make the devious look intelligent - but it never endures ).

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Are you a little mentally slow, john/bah/and/ta/....whoever?

We agree property right are essential for ethics.

We agree the reward pool is no ones property.

We agree is it logically consistent for the largest stake have the largest share of the rewards pool.

Ethics cannot be present in the Steem rewards pool ecosystem, because of lack of property rights.

Fuck, you lot are really slow! ....or just manipulative and very, very scared.

Pointing this truth out IS THE THREAT to the manipulators (Those with large stakes in steem?).... because it has not been pointed out to people before.
When people realize this truth - it will either require change or may even be the collapse of Steem as it stands.(med/long term).

WHY?

Because no enduring successful human social system in history has excluded ethical codes in any transactions of goods or wealth.

Not...one.

Is Steem 'different' and this time is will succeed, without any ethics?
(Echoes of socialism, do you think?....- it just wasn't done right.....)

Yes, it could succeed- if the world is run by sociopaths and totalitarianism is the order of the day.
(the only logical conclusion to a system without ethics)

No, Steem - as it stands - will fail, if the world is run by people. By humans.

Oh....
I'll throw this one in for entertainment value...

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LMAO .

I never said 'catching fish does not give you ownership over them' - Are you delusional?
I never said 'nobody own the ocean there for it's not ethical to own the catch' - Are you delusional?
Are you imagining a different reality?
Do you need medication?
Are you taking the bait, john...?

The postmodernist ,Marxist, sociopath, losers - are mentally ill, and so full of hubris - they think that people can't see through the Alinksy-esque strategies...
(the time of the sophist, is over..deal with it).

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but you're not fooling me and those who are keen on what ethics are

An amoeba with learning difficulties could easily fool you, matey, if they so wished.
Rarely have I interacted with someone as naive ....(anyone over the age of 16, that is).

Just how old are you ?
(I will assume you are an 'adult' - in the loosest possible sense of the word- unless you tell me otherwise).

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These drama tokens are giving me a drama all of their own....

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....and then what? ....it does a dance, or something?

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shhh. it's still a secret.

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??? me no undetstandee

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baah is VERY good at making replies. and replies about replies on replies.
Lots of replies, even.

yeah, he becomes a moron the longer he writes ..

he conflates oceans to having ethical behavior (wtf???) - menatilly ill --- oh , and states logic revoles aorund subjectivity --or something.. He needs help..

I wonder who it really is...

I'd put my money on one of four people...
(that's if it's not a legiimate basement dweller . One who gets an erectio, when he looks over at his antifa flag in the corner).

Sure I do, lol.
Hey, who's property rights are violated or who's consent is violated for it to be an ethical dilemma?

Missed that one again? If no property or consent is violated then what is the ethical dilemma? If no property CAN be violated, how is that encouraging unethical behavior?

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!dramatoken

If no property CAN be violated, how is that encouraging unethical behavior?it can't.

It cant.

It's also impossible to be free market, at the same time.
Free markets a predicated on exchange of property.

Upvoting is allocating value or moving property that doesn't belong to you.
It only belongs to you after 7 days.

( the reward pool doesn't belong to anyone , right?)

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The clown troupe is gathering, welcome. How's that going for you, convinced that the earth being round is a psyop still?

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Since i see two big things:

  • NASA is continuing to sell the ball earth theory
  • Evidence of being able to see over the horizon is becoming too large to ignore.

These are two verifiable facts.
You can verify them both by yourself.

The conclusion from just these two pieces state that
"the earth being round is a psyop"

As if NASA is the singular authority in the world on the shape of the world.

Evidence? What evidence exactly?

You are so whack that you think that the sun does not raise over the horizon or fall behind it. That is whack ass shit. Ironically, you see though that NASA is, and I quote, SELLING the ball "theory".

None of your crap for shit theories explain the horizon, in fact, you resorted to theorizing something that cannot ever be proven or measured, or that what we see is an illusion, earth is flat but Space is warped to appear otherwise.

You believe that psychopaths control and manipulate numerous nations with thoroughly developed space programs that routinely send satellites into orbit to lie about something that to regular people is completely inconsequential, simply to fool people.

Water curves. Too bad it's only an illusion by your "theory" that literally cannot be proven as it invalidates any kind of observation based on light and posits that space is an illusion, folded to look like a sphere.

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Do you understand that this is why lucylin made this post?

You have made many assumptions that i do not attest to, and have projected at least two steps from what i said in a false direction.

i made two statements of fact.
You jumped to conclusions.


Now, if you would care to explain something, how does the horizon rise to the level of your eye no matter how high up you go? Whether you are in an airplane flying at altitude, atop Mt. Everest, or at the beach. The horizon is at your eye level.

Explain how that is possible in a ball earth model?

You think that "I see NASA selling" is a statement of fact?

I responded to this post, without leaving any stone unturned. What the heck are you talking about, asking me if I understand?

What assumptions I made, Mr. Spherical earth is a psyop?

It does not raise to the level of they eye however far up you go. If you want to know, the earth is huge, by it's scale, from 100 miles high, you can discern clearly the curvature but even at that height the horizon is not that far down. From everest or an airplane you barely can. It's possible, all you had to do is make a scale model and prove that by the same scale it's not possible.
Like I did here:

https://steemit.com/water/@naturowlmystic/re-ceattlestretch-re-naturowlmystic-re-ceattlestretch-re-naturowlmystic-thank-you-movingman-water-has-a-danged-memory-20180530t180758971z

Your theoretical model does not explain the horizon, or why the water curves, you said that the sun does not go behind the horizon, it only gets farther and farther away. Whack.

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My theories are along the lines of, The earth that we experience is two dimensional, as in flat, and that this "earth" is painted on the inside of a toroid like space-time enclosure.

Or, in other words, to describe the shape of the earth requires 6 dimensions.

Lol wow.

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Now, if you would like to discuss theories, mine is that we live on the inside of a toroid like shape. That the earth is painted on the inside of the toroid.

That the earth that we see and know is flat. As in two dimensional. And this two dimensional (or even three dimensional, but you really get into weird maths) is painted onto a further 3 dimensional space time. So, from our perspective, everything is flat, but it is also curved and enclosed.

Too bad that your theoretical model cannot ever even be depicted, or tested for, how convenient. If I point out that there is no horizon on your model, and in fact things need to move up the further away they are, especially depending on which direction you're facing, with the only horizon happening on the funnel part of the toroid, a concave horizon, you can simply conveniently claim that it's "painted" like that.
Idiots, idiots braying along idiots that don't even know what ethics means, or how meritocracy is based on equity, or that they are using equity not ethics in their argument. Can't win with idiots, you're here claiming I made assumptions. What a whack ass clown.

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Do you understand that you are just being an ass?

You are pulling in quotes from other "replies".
Replies are not a full story.
And i am sure you know that.

So, you are trying to poke holes in replies by cherry picking from replies.

That is annoying.

Of course my theory isn't fleshed out. Well DUH!

And then you use ad hominems.

Lastly, you avoid answering any tough questions yourself.

Which tough questions did I avoid you clown? You claimed I made assumptions when I was simply pointing out your own theory, your own whack ass "painted" theory. You try to avoid that by your own logic/theory NASA could not be deceiving anyone about the shape of the world since it's painted as you claimed. You asked me about the curvature / horizon and dismissed the link and obvious proof of what the scale is and what it would take for the horizon to go down. You make it seem that I Only called you a clown and had nothing else to say. Idiot.

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What did I seemingly not understand about this post as you sought to imply? What assumptions did I make? Zilch. Nada, you had nothing to submit for those claims. You began talking about me, you responded to a slanderous post about me, and you sit there in your hypocrisy and tell me I've used ad hominems. How convenient you whack ass idiot clown, you seemingly chimed in support of this utterly slanderous post that is as idiotic as it gets, as it's almost completely one slurry of attacks on me after another, but let me mock your baffonnes of "the space time is painted" and call you a clown, that's unacceptable. Whack ass fucking idiot.

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By your own theory, how could anyone, especially NASA fool anybody else about the shape of the world if they simply are fooled by the illusion that space and light acts as it does.

Muh logic.

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In NASA's own words, they hired somebody to piece together satellite photos and then plot that onto a sphere and make it look like people expect the world to look.

They said it, not me.

So what? As if that proves anything, as if stitching together satellite imagery (satellites wtf, is that a conspiracy also?) proves that the world is flat. Idiots.

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By your own theory, if space is not what it appears to be, if light, water and horizon are illusion, how could you claim that NASA is hiding the shape of the world (as if NASA is the authority on the shape of the world which people have been decapitated for arguing that it is round and not at the center of the universe) when your theory says that the shape is an illusion, it appears like that, without any shred of evidence to substantiate that hare brain cacophony.

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!dramatoken

The nonstop drama of "logical consistent" cacophony.

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You have DRAMA!

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I asked you repeatedly who's property rights or who's consent is violated for it to be an ethical dilemma.

Absolute silence is all you responded with.

Your logic says that because ethics aren't coded (without specifying exactly what is unethical about nobody owning the reward pool) therefore unethical behavior is encouraged. Exactly which unethical behavior is encouraged you never specified. By the same logic, since logic is not coded, it encourages nonsense. If kindness is not coded it encourages bullying.

Code by itself is without morality or ethics. Code much like any object is not an act. You confuse the act of writing code (intent) with the thing.

You repeatedly argued that "a two thousand word post doesn't make as much as a 5 word post" and posted a picture of someone fishing with a fishing pole Vs someone fishing with a fishing net. You. Also repeatedly referred to "steem is not a meritocracy" which is again in reference to how steem is not fair in your eyes. Much like you claimed that it's not free market, again argument revolving around equity.

You argue that

We agree is it logically consistent for the largest stake have the largest share of the rewards pool.

Another argument pivoted on fairness.

You can accuse me of conflating that code is not ethical or whatever nonsensical thing you think I conflate, and disregard and dismiss the obvious equity dilemma while avoiding expressing exactly what property rights are violated or who's consent is violated and retorting in between with arguing that an inanimate thing is not ethical or can encourage universal unethical behavior such as aggression, as if things have power over people and not people over things. You can also whine all day long without any kind of specific issue to point to, only the vagueness of "the reward pool is owned by nobody, therefore it encourages unethical behavior because no property rights exist" which is a nonsensical logic of: the ocean is owned by nobody therefore the ocean encourages unethical behavior because without property rights there are no ethics.

Ethics are codes of conducts/external. The universal ethic is non aggression. Aggression is not encouraged because there are no property rights, or because nobody owns the reward pool. You can assert to the contrary nil logic that fishing in the ocean encourages fishermen to murder and kill one another, as you can assert that since nobody owns the air that encourages murder theft and deception, you're not fooling me, if anyone's property rights or consent is violated it's not because there is no ethics hard coded into fishing on the ocean. You, the pseudo anarchist, but clearly a statist at heart, thinks that you can code ethics. You cannot, and the proof is that you refuse to express what that would be, or because you have nothing to explain in regards to that, all you can do is assert that nobody owns the reward pool allegedly therefore unethical behavior is encouraged because it's not coded. So what is it? Is it because nobody owns the reward pool or because there's no code of conduct baked into it, and what codes will be baked and by who's authority? Inversely since acts are unethical, why don't you point out which unethical acts will you code against?

Silence is all I expect. Keep calling me all manner of names, as the majority of your post is all about what you think about me, I don't care, what you eat, I don't shit.

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The whole flat/ball earth is created to divide, and divert attention, if you ask me.
Keeping people busy with fighting over non-issues.
Keeping them from focusing on the real issue of fighting tyranny (statism) which is becoming worse every day.

Tyranny on a flat earth is just as bad as tyranny on a ball earth.

True, yet obviously one side is correct and the other completely incorrect. The only reason I challenge flat earth is because it's used to bunch up all other things with it. If you doubt the 9/11 narrative, you're a flat earther. If you think that vaccines are not either as safe or as effective as we are told, you're a flat earther. When I challenged @builderofcastles claims in his post "Inescapable-conclusion" he responded by pointing to every other conspiracy or fraud, and used that to say that because the FED is private, then why wouldn't "they" lie about the shape of the world, if they hid skeletons of giants, then why wouldn't they lie about the shape of the world. If pedophiles run the world, why wouldn't they lie about the shape of the world. He basically discredited all frauds and crimes that he attached to the flat earth nonsense. That is why I think this psyop is running. The division and diversion is done through sports, news, politics much more effectively than flat earth. Who do you think capable of forming a cogent argument Vs statism when they are completely ridiculous and avoid any kind of logic in order to guard their beliefs that the world is flat?

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The only reason I challenge flat earth is because it's used to bunch up all other things with it.

This is true in some cases.

I have seen people attack and trying to discredit, principled voluntaryists accusing the voluntaryist of being a shill for the elite, and not being a real voluntaryist for not believing flat eart, or something around those lines. This does not make sense at all
(It was not builder of castles but some other people)

I personally do not belief in a flat earth...although I have been looking at it for quite some time. (I never dismiss something directly no matter how outlandish or not standard) But I came to the conclusion by way of using my own eyes that it is a ball.
I don't want to further discuss this subject (shape of earth) because I personally think it's a waste of time.
I trust that people can find out for themselves, one day reality will stare them in the face just like it did with me.

Personally I think "flat earth" is utter horseshit. Same with the 911 official story and I think vaccinations are 100% bullshit too. Maybe I'm evil...

http://www.frot.co.nz/design/health/vaccination/

When I first joined steem I'd make anyone I could a challenge that if they can offer evidence of the efficaciousness of vaccines, any vaccines they can have my account. A few tried but all they had were statistics on incidence of morbidity and mortality dropping with vaccination, while ignoring the immense drop before vaccination and in reference to that when vaccination was introduced the rate flattened out.

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Nice work! - Sadly here on Steemit there is big money backing vaxxers as there is everywhere...

But it's all about divide and conquer...

Ethics cannot be present in the Steem rewards pool ecosystem, because of lack of property rights.

I never said 'nobody own the ocean there for it's not ethical to own the catch'

Nuff said lol.

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