Why I Delegated 10,000 SteemPower to @Steem-UA

in #ua6 years ago

This morning I went on SteemConnect and delegated 10,000 SP to the @Steem-UA Project!
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What is SteemUA?

UA calculates the "influence" of any account as a probability distribution and can be seen as a new reputation metric. Here are a few way this technology can be use:

  1. Detect fake account and botnet (dynamic blacklist)
  2. Detect genuine account (dynamic whitelist)
  3. Can be used as an oracle for SMTs
  4. Create APIs to generate an alternative "Trending" or "Hot" section on a UI
  5. And more!

Why Did I Delegate?

First of all, I want this project to succeed. But there is also the added benefit of having upvotes from them based on my UA score which is 7.1 (I'm really curious to see what kind of voting % I'll get from this).

What I Wish Will Happen

Steemit Delegation

I would love to see @misterdelegation give a boost to this project and help it's adoption with a generous delegation...that would definitely help the guys prove their technology.

New Trending/Hot/New UA API

I want to see the @steem-ua develop an API to generate a Trending/Hot/New algorithm that truly display great quality content. The vote buying that is happening right now does not make the experience on the feed interesting at all. From there, I'm sure many Steem front-end would be happy to use it.

Replacing the Current Reputation Score System

If this technology works as intended, I would love seeing it as the main reputation score on the Steem network. That would either require a hardfork or Steemit Inc using their API I imagine.

Using UA for SMTs Airdrops

Airdropping is the process of giving away free token to a community. With UA, we can safely determine who's a genuine user and who's a bot without requiring identity verification. It would be great to have an airdrop service that uses UA/ & SteemConnect to distribute token to the well deserving users of the Steem blockchain.

Conclusion

I hope you are going to go ahead and delegate to one of my favorite steemproject!

PS: Scroll at the bottom of this article to learn to delegate to @steem-ua and the benefits that comes with it.

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Though I'm a redfish.. At first sight I just delegated 50dsp to steem-ua after reading thier post and their curation activities has been awesome.
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Triggering me power up 86 steem power recently and looking forward to delegate more sp. I love this initiative by UA team. Thanks for simplifying UA initiative with this post @cryptoctopus

I'm eager to power up more because of UA community.

At first glance this is just silly fun. But it’s deeper then that, you see bugs or Elmer, not sure which, is responsible. No they are not In the hole, they created a wormhole. The reason for this is that they are trying to track Daffy Duck a lesson, that hurting others is hurting themselves. It’s more than a cartoon. It’s a deeply layered philosophical discussion that seems silly to a kid. Thus,it is what it is, Humor to a fool and thoughtfulness to a thinker.

-M

that was awesome, i'm trying hard to manage some power, when i get i will try to jump in there

Please do... The benefits will wow you when you delegate.
They are like Pizza for small fishes - very yummy 😎

Yes, i can imagine for your positive approach from your previous response in this post, yes, i'm trying hard for that to

You rock.. All the best mate

Thanks udezee

My pleasure motivating you buddy ✌️

check out this motivational post.. and have a look how i am working on this plat form just joined 3 weeks ago
https://steemit.com/writing/@ahsanyaseen/when-someone-leaves-you-let-them-go-motivational-sayings

WOW @udezee! You ROCK!

I felt that one team UA.. More sunshine to y'all pastures. 🤗

The same counts for me udezee. I am pulling my steem delegations out of the vote bots to delegate it all into steem-ua. These kinds of projects is whats gonna make steem great!

The projects presence moves with a pace of growth & change on steem blockchain. Looking forward to your contribution (dsp or ideas) to UA.

I wil be delegating in about 3 days. Depending on when the steem delegation returns to my wallet.

It takes 7 days for a delegation to return.

i know i canceled it 4 days ago.

Oh.. I see why. Anyways after the 7 days count you will have it back mate✌️

that was awesome, i'm trying hard to manage some power, when i get i will try to jump in there

Y u no delegate 2 me?!
So I should be sorry not kissing witnesses, not using bidbots for months catching various plagiarists on the platform. I checked my score when utopian announced their collab. I wasn’t able to remeber the number :)
Ofc boosted votes for riches makes sense, and the provided feed will be full of “rich people of steem”, more 600stu food photos, yay! bidbots already emptied their following list to game its basic PR algorithm.
So yeah why not to follow another hype.

seems salty...but I don't see your point. How much do you know the UA algorithm?

Yeah, I regret when I post the comment while everyone so excited for no reason. How much should I know or is there a regular user friendly explanation I missed afaik it’s based on google’s pagerank algorithm which is depreciated in 2003 or 2013 I don’t remember it either.
What does top 100 means on ua list, most trustable sources? Most influencals?
Ned at 38 steemitblog not even there. I wonder where would jerry banfield listed if he still runs his witness server.
Does jesta has all of the answers for steem blockchain. What does ua provides to you?

Pagerank is still used by google along other algorithm (we just don't have access anymore). UA uses the same mathematic of probability distribution as pagerank along with other algorithm that help figure out:
1- Who is a real user
2- Who is a bot or a spammer
3- Who's content is most valued by the Steem community (for now)

Jesta is the top witness(#1)...and he has been elected to be one...doesn't it make sense that he is also the most influential content creator for now?

Finally, as more systems start using UA, people will start changing the way they follow since it has now a value attached to it...just like the way people use hyperlinks on the web.

You can be a sourpuss if you want but I would suggest bringing in some corrective feedback if you have any.

Could you please stop attacking me :) I'm sharing my thoughts on the project itself. With already known facts.
https://www.wikiwand.com/en/PageRank#/Deprecation
From what I read I get that it's importance is also reduced, and people shouldn't focus only on PR. Which shows its reliability (at least for me.) as you said it should be used along with other algorithms. We already have a working version of UA and can see the public list and we can judge its efficiency from it basically.
There are tools for hacky-seo tactics that converts sentences on articles with similar words so it looks like a unique article. There is also machine learning at this point. So it pretty pretty easy to game it, even big boys started to unfollow people just to increase their ua score :) these guys are the most valuable ones in the platform? yeah sure why not.
Let's discuss it when vote sellers start to sell follows. Like PR created a market for backlinks. #follow4follow :thumbs_up:

even big boys started to unfollow people just to increase their ua score :)

That might even decrease their own UA score @oups. But what's certain is that more UA is passed on to the remaining (active?) accounts they're following. Is there anything wrong with unfollowing accounts not active for quite some time?

That might even decrease their own UA score

Only if the wrong accounts are unfollowed.

I repeat my reservations here, as I have not yet been able to see any arguments that could have mitigated them:

As soon as a monetary value is attributed to the UA, users will pay for having their UA increased. Simply by buying the following of high-UA accounts. In order to prepare for this economy accounts will first of all do an UA- optimized clean-up of their followed accounts to increase the UA-increment that they can pass and thus sell to others.

Hoping that such practice will not be accepted by other high UA-users and countered accordingly I personally consider naive and risky.

Hi @shaka, thx for sharing your opinion again regarding UA ;-)
Have you seen any follow selling yet since UA went "live"?

Also, can you respond to my DMs on Discord please? Thx in advance

I really can't discuss it further since I don't have enough knowledge about how it's calculated or else. I don't want to point fingers at all, just a quick sample, https://steemit.com/@smartsteem/followed I assume it's beneficial for the owner in UA-wise.

And my actual point is UA is on its early stages (I believe) and putting too much expectation to a project might harm it's evolution. Let's monitor if people able to game it, if you (project owners/contributors) are willing to solve any problems in your way.

There is nothing wrong with unfollowing unless it's done for climbing a ladder.

On other social media platforms people use this to gain more followers, follow for follow and purge the inactives at the end of the week. This way inactive ones not going to unfollow so you have a huge number on your profile meaning nothing without proper or enough communication. Like we already had many spammers in our wallets. "Send x sbd for resteems to millions..."

Well maybe I'm just being sourpuss and concerned about I won't have another chance to get in main feeds if it's implemented in various front-ends. Thanks to my UA score. First stakeholders, next vote buyers now UA will dominate feeds in a decentralized(!) platform.

We will be watching the discussion down below and seeing what people think of UA
to see if it could be a fit for https://steempeak.com

Also I invite @steem-ua to chat with us because if they want to use https://steempeak.com as a testing ground I'll talk to the developers about giving someone on your team access to put in the code.

  • It would need to be an OPT-IN option in settings so a user could decide to use it.
  • My personal suggestion is that it could be a sunset clause of X months hoping that there is more wide adoption by that time and maybe that is actually helpful to the UA cause.

Just my own personal thoughts... just to get the ball rolling for discussion

i had tryed just once an look so nice, can you explain more about steempeak.

@dotfee go here #steempeak, there are posts introducing it. Best way is log in and find out.

I already did it and getting nice experience on @steempeak

I certainly applaud your contribution to this initiative @cryptoctopus, as well as your active participation in the community. I hope the @steem-ua folks manage to come up with a metric that more accurately reflects true authority/influence than reputation.

From what I have seen so far, my only reservation is that UA seems a little "thin" on valuing content creation and engagement on the site. I suppose you could argue that it doesn't have value... but there really wouldn't BE much here if people weren't starting and engaging in dialogue. Sure, people would still be developing apps for the Steem blockchain, but without the Steemit social front end... I am not sure Steem would be much more than "just another blockchain project" with its Discord and Github components. Steemit (and other social apps) is essentially what allows for that all-important marketing edge: Differentiation.

I hope perhaps @steem-ua will consider consulting with @paulag who's in the middle of developing a *contribution/engagement" metric.

But I'm totally with you in wanting to see an alternative influence metric develop!

We're now algorithmically curating content as:

UA_Vote = x * UA_Author + y * UA_Post + z * UA_Comment

... in order to include post interaction / engagement.
And @paulag is a friend of mine I talk to regularly, including this topic!

PS, you got yourself a primer on this, because I'm about to post about it this evening (but I have a lot on my plate to manage everything happening regarding UA, UA-API and @steem-ua)!

Cheers! ( @scipio )

Thanks for responding @scipio! I fundamentally think you a creating a really good thing here... and look forward to seeing it develop. I'm glad you're including different metrics to reflect participation.

I remember well the days of "Google watching" to try to figure out how to get our web sites to figure more prominently. And I understand that it's challenge. Metaphorically speaking, we all KNOW that "Sony Corporation" has authority in electronics, but what about the smaller guy who's every bit as expert but doesn't have a $100 million budget? Ranking for "value" will of course always be somewhat subjective...

It's looking interesting project to me @cryptoctopus Thanks for shearing your knowledge,
at this moment i don't have SP or tiny amount of SP , when i manage i will do definitely

We have the @steem-ua Gift Program for new accounts that don't have enough SP to delegate 25 SP!
Just talk to us on our @steem-ua Discord Server <== click! ;-)

Thanks for your support, i will definitely follow your instruction

I love it when the Steem community encourages improvements of the blockchain that will longterm change this network for better!

Thanks for boosting this topic to the top, resteemed in order to help refinance your invest :-)

Yup, a change is in need for a better future!

This looks like a seriously excellent move forwards for steem. I will almost certainly be delegating in the near future!

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you can still get an upvotes from @steem-ua with just a 25SP delegation. [read more here](https://steemit.com/ua/@steem-ua/introducing-userauthority-ua-steem-ua-and-ua-api

Cheers! I'll get onto it tomo when Im on my PC

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Sadly I don't have much sp to delegate to @steem-ua, bUt my support is with you and @cryptoctopus you have done a great job, keep it up sir.

you can still get an upvotes from @steem-ua with just a 25SP delegation. read more here

yeah sure, I will try to buy some.

I want to reach 1000SP soon and i think that i will delegate it to this great steemproject..Thanks a lot.

You get the exact same curation/upvote if you only delegate 25 SP! ;-)

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