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RE: Back After The Hack: Over $2796.01 In The Bank in 48 Hours On Steemit (And HOW I DID IT By Understanding & Creating VALUE)...

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thank you for your comment. I just spent 10 minutes discussing this with my fiance, and JUST had received noticed via someone on Slack that YES, I have been put on a bot lit. however, the situation as you describe it is not quite the way it is...

I need to write up an entire story of its own to adequately address this issue, and will do so tomorrow - have spent all day writing and off to bed soon. however, a few key points to address first...

there ARE investors in this site who DO you use bots. they make no secret of this. while the details of how it works are scattered here and there and require a deeper knowledge of how it all works, this post, "I'm a Steem Whale Looking for Writers" spells it out well.

the investors who place writers on their bot lists are not "colluding" as though its any sort of conspiracy. the bots are used as tools to support writers who they've determined to produce VALUABLE content. these investors have invested significant chunks of capital into this site because they believe in the venture - and are ready to back users who are consistently producing content that is of VALUE to the site.

think of it as a sponsorship.

Steemit is NEW and just being built. like ANY new company that's being built, TALENT is required. it takes "TEAMWORK to make the dream work," as they say. investors are ready to invest in talent who they believe are contributing content to the site that will greatly benefit the community. they're willing to "sponsor" top players, just as there are sponsorships for sports figures or musicians or actors.

you could also think of it as sort of like being hired for a job. Steemit needs TOP QUALITY content to succeed with its vision. no professional writer is going to write for free. so if the venture needs QUALITY content produced, it needs professional writers. the investors have a stake in the company, thus knowing the value professional writers bring to contribute to the venture's success, and thus are willing to invest in writers who they believe can provide the service/product required to assist the company reach its goals. it's like a form of employment - or sponsorship - though given the unique decentralized nature of the system/platform/ecosystem, the bots are a tool created to serve this purpose of rewarding those who have proven themselves to generate CONSISTENT, QUALITY content.

granted, if I were to slack off, take the opportunity for granted, and start posting absolute shit - I would probably, fairly, get removed from the bot list. the reason I have been placed on it is because an investor has determined that what I've been producing is of value to the community. namely, I've been producing alot of content summarizing my lessons along the journey here, so as to shorten the learning curve for newbies - helping them understand the system better, so they can adapt to the environment, learn the rules of the game, produce greater value for the community, thus becoming successful, and increasing the success of the entire community & platform.

if you choose to view the whole system as rigged, unfair, don't learn the rules of the game, and don't create value - don't expect too much from this site. if you put in the time & energy to learn the culture, understand the system, philosophy, details of how it all works, and invest in your writing skills to produce quality, valuable content over & over, success is inevitable. will all people do that? of course not. so is it fair that they don't receive huge rewards, when they never bothered to learn the rules of the game and make the investment to become of value to the community? YES. IT'S FAIR.

there's method behind the madness, order in the chaos. the system is getting its kinks worked out as we go - this is still in beta, we are early adopters, and there's much progress to be made.

and frankly, I suspect you didn't even read the post, saying in your comment, "This is a "you can make money like me post". - when the third sentence of the story states outright, "Just to clarify upfront: this NOT a "you can succeed like I can" post," carrying on to explain how much time & energy has gone into producing the results - and that not everybody can or will duplicate such results.

I've been completely transparent and will continue to be - just as the whale investors have with their investment strategy.

I appreciate your feedback, as it's triggered all this to come out so clarity can be generated around the matter. such misunderstanding doesn't help anyone here. learning the elements of VALUE, learning the rules of the game, cultivating skill, and contributing to the community DOES help EVERYONE here. some people will prefer to play the blame game and delegate responsibility for their own success to an "unfair" system - but they're only fooling themselves by failing to hold themselves accountable to grow the knowledge & skill sets required for success. and that's just as equally true in any entrepreneurial undertaking or activity as it is on Steemit - same reason 95% of people fail at any business.

that's it for right now - will be expanding into a post of its own, much better articulated for clarification.

thank you for the negative inspiration... :-)

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Man you don't need to explain yourself to these jealous haters, people that think the world owes them something, and that everything that is wrong with "their life" is someone else's fault. they bitch and complain about everything. not just Steemit post truthful if they can add value then they need to be ignored dont reward bad behavoir . they are like snotty nose little brats who give up after a few tries and scream "not fair like a little bitch" it is unmanly and it pissed me off. and i am going to speak up against it every chance i get. what you earn is yours and nobody else what you do with what you have title to is your business no one elses. less it tresspasses upon their rights. if it was up to them we would live in a communist society where a brain surgeon would earn as much as a fry-cook . f*&K em
for every one who refuses to take responsibility for their own circumstance need to check this out and maybe if you can absorb its concepts thing will start to turn around for you

I'd upvote this twice if I could. thanks for posting two comments - as it kind of allowed me to. :-)

you're correct, I don't need to explain myself. however, I don't offer the explanation as a defense or anything to do with myself - but to create clarity where there's misunderstanding about the system.

as other users are going to read his comment, it's important to set the record straight for THEM. If "Mr. Positivity" is committed to being right, he won't care to see the other sides of the issue - and that's fine with me. the reason I took the extended to offer sound refutations to his angry, misinformed allegations is because of the potential damage that could be done if others read his hasty judgements and take that as truth without understanding the details of the matter.

and this ties right back into the point of the article = the path to success here is service to / creating value for the community.

I'm going to keep an eye out for your writing. you definitely won some of my respect for sharing your viewpoint like this. keep calling out B.S. where you see it. though do exercise some compassion while doing so. sometimes people need tough love. sometimes just guidance.

Thanks for flagging me x

Nice try, but wrong.

  1. The colluding comes from the #postpromotion tags in Slack.
  2. Slack isn't open so newcomers have an unfair advantage.
  3. There are people who produce far better content than you, and I think it's arrogant and disrespectful to suggest they earn less because they aren't as good as you.
  4. That post you showed me was from 1 month ago, which shows an example of early investor advantage, not talent.
  5. Criticizing your rubbish tips, which won't help users not on bot lists (which guarantee votes)make money isn't negative, it's the truth and it helps users not to waste time, nor to get swindled.

See, at the end I was right, maybe you just want to believe your superior and deserve $1,000 for a completely inaccurate guide.

  1. He never said that you were wrong.

2.You contradict yourself when you challenged @mammasitta to present a logical argument. Your response there sir, is fueled by emotions. Anger, in particular. Are you aware that you are mirroring the same perceived arrogance?

Anger perhaps, but still logical. If not point to the fallacy.

Man you don't really seem that positive lately :P

I'm very aware that you have great points to discuss. I'm new to steemit, and still learning how this platform works. You gained my respect on making it a discussion. Even when you made it sound like he was hidding the information. He could respond in a defensive manner, but there was nothing to defend. He was being transparent the whole time.

You lost my respect sir, when you took it personally. I'm not here to have a battle of who's the smartest. You clearly are a smart person. But I'm calling out a character flaw when I see one.

I flagged because you received nearly $100 in votes for angrily presenting a biased, misinformed view that does not help create clarity for the community. I do not take your sarcasm personally - it's clear you have alot of anger and resentment that is being projected outwards.

  1. the postpromotion tag does not guarantee anyone upvotes. using it does not automatically add anyone to a bot list.

  2. the entire site is closed to newcomers at this point. YOU have an unfair advantage by being an early adopter on this site, while others are currently denied access. there is no unfair advantage for anyone in the Slack chat - it is fair that everyone here had the opportunity to join the Slack team; not everyone took it. And the only advantage that MIGHT be had by being in the Slack chat comes as a direct result from having invested time & energy building relationships and cultivating an understanding of how this all works. the door was open for anyone to walk in, show up, join in the discussions, and give value. not all did. those who did not cannot complain about "unfairness," because they didn't never stepped up to engage and contribute. nonetheless, if you still have an account on the site, you may be fairly consider yourself to have an "unfair advantage" other those who must wait for an invite - and you might be wise to seize the opportunity, learn the rules of the game, develop your skill, create massive value, so as to position yourself well and maximize that advantage. though if you're not even going to step up and take advantage of the opportunity you're sitting on right now, it's kinda hypocritical to be complaining about how anyone else has an unfair advantage.

  3. "better" in what sense? Everybody's standards of value are different, and every user has a right to choose who they vote for - who their investment in the platform supports. There is EXCELLENT content on here which earns WAY more than mine does. That's obvious. I'm not suggesting ANYONE earn less - the system is structured that how much anyone here earns is directly determined by the voters's valuation. such valuation - tying back into the core of my article and the referenced post, consists of 5 elements - EVERY post either has those elements, or doesn't, in various degrees & combinations. there is no "better" or "worse..."

some posts are rich in informational value. others in entertainment value. others in inspirational value. others in the delivery/presentation value. some in originality. some voters might prefer and throw down on informational news about cryptocurrencies. some might value and vote on entertainment. there is no "better/worse" except in your own judgement. I never suggested anyone earn less in comparison with myself. My content should be fairly rewarded for the value others receive from it - just as every other person's content should be fairly rewarded for the value the community receives from it.

  1. the timeline of when an investor in the platform makes a public statement about his intent as to how he'd like to invest is irrelevant. the topic of talent is irrelevant. and OF COURSE, early investors are going to have an advantage. that is a given in ANY type of business, public or private. that is why investors are always on the lookout for ventures with prospect. that is why a multi-billion dollar venture capital industry.

  2. "rubbish" is your judgement. while you may label my tips "rubbish," others have expressed appreciation for them and found value in them. and my tips are for VALUE CREATION - any writer who takes these tips and implements them in their writing will improve their skills - as such, they may help anyone who is open to learning and implementing WISDOM and fundamental principles to integrate into their skill sets. whether they publish their writing on Steemit or not is irrelevant, a totally different matter of whether they've been helped or not.

I'm quite confident you have the ability to logically twist your way around any refutation thrown at you to prove to yourself you're right.

however, your being "right" and engaging in the way you have demonstrated in this thread will very likely come at the expense of reputation, friendships, and respect on this platform. your username is quite inconsistent with the attitude coming across, as there really hasn't been much positivity added to the community - just criticism, hostility, and a whole lot of complaints.

Lol. I transferred money to newbies, who were earning nothing, helped them not get frustrated with unequitable earnings, yet I've done nothing positive.
Somehow you're better than me because instead of directly helping others, you made money for yourself.
Exposing flaws != Complaining
Scams are rampant in cryto space
Believe what you want
I've made over $3k in my first week here so I don't think I need to learn secret wealth creation tips

"some people will prefer to play the blame game and delegate responsibility for their own success to an "unfair" system - but they're only fooling themselves by failing to hold themselves accountable to grow the knowledge & skill sets required for success. " Exactly

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