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RE: Steemit's Malicious @steemcleaners downvote ATTACKS

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Come talk to me on either steem.chat https://steem.chat/channel/steemitabuse-appeals and we'll fix this in a way we can ensure it doesn't happen again through mutual understanding. I've taken the flags off the two posts about to payout in order to let your account recover.

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Thanks for your help. There are still 3 other posts with the same issues.
The Pic in question and text with it have been REMOVED on these two for several days now:
Remembering Who We Really Are - Part 2
ANCIENT ADVICE for MODERN TIMES #8
Source credited, because the link used is like family, even though it wasn't my source...:
ANCIENT ADVICE for MODERN TIMES #10

Then there's the issue that @blacklist-a follows @steemcleaners and downvoted everything on the 5 posts too.

@pjau says I am verified with @steemcleaners, but if it will help, when can we speak? I see you are in Canada, which puts me 6-9 hours ahead of you. My intention here isn't just for me, though, as I see this as a major issue for the entire community, which needs a lot more clarity and decentralization.

As I wrote above and I see now @crypto.piotr just quoted me as well,

"I would ask you (or whatever humans there are behind @steemcleaners) to consider just how much more harm you do to the overall steemit community, treating so many people so extremely prejudicial and STEALING THEIR MONEY. "

That question burns even more now for me today, after seeing the 2 you corrected and another I removed the pic from days ago now, still get published in the last @steemcleaners blacklist. If you don't mind, @guiltyparties, could you please address this question here in order for the community to be a part of the discussion?

I'm on the steem.chat (for the first time and a bit lost) in the steemitabuse-appeals channel. Does it have voice? That would be much easier and quicker I think.

Could you please remove the 5 links to 5 of my posts on your publicized blacklist post Steemcleaner Report for March 26, 2018 accusing me of "Photo/Image Plagiarism", which you know have been resolved?

I spent 3 hours of my time helping you on Easter wasting my family time. I and the rest of my colleagues do not respond to threats.

You just did respond, but I had no intention of making any sort of threat. I apologize, if it came across that way. This whole mess just has me all turned up-side-down.

You have your facts all mixed up, though, @guiltyparties. I have the text with the timestamp. It wasn't Easter at all, less than half that time and most of it was wasted on your insisting on telling me how to do tags, which had nothing to do with the issue.

It was Friday when we had our text conversation not today, Easter. It started from 12:44 PM EST. Because you hadn't read this post or any of my replies to any of the 6 posts and didn't want to speak by voice, I had to text to you the whole story all over again, which took some time. Then you spent time complaining about other issues you have had with other cases during the week, to explain why you let me fall through the cracks.

At 13:08 you asked for 10 minutes to do something else and then left me hanging for 16 minutes. You just kept insisting on the tags every time I would try to get back on point. The main issue of mine was on the one of the posts that you couldn't any longer fix, because you never ever followed up in time. I said I would have to repost it and you told me if I did, I may have this happen again for plagiarizing myself. Imagine how that burned in my gut. I then asked about how to best proceed going forward with photos I own the copyright to.

You said the best way to stop so many members from reporting to steemcleaners when I use my own pics normally, is to find another site, (ANY SITE) where a picture which I have full legal rights to happens to be on (even if it is stolen from me) and place a link to that site as source. This was essentially encouraging the exact thing that @steemcleaners was supposedly intended to stop. Now think about that for a minute. This is about as insane as it gets. Don't you think; or do you still not see that?

Then after 2 fairly sleepless nights with all this going over and over in my mind, when I found that you completely forgot to remove my links from your blacklist post, that you posted AFTER I created this original post above, it got me burning in anger. So I reacted with that comment above to seriously CONSIDER taking legal action for Defamation of Character, given that's exactly what it is doing.

The conversation ended at 14:16 or 1 hour and 32 minutes from when we started and 16 of those you were doing something else. For the record, those are the facts.

You may feel like you have wasted an hour and a half on me, but I have lost a week of my time every day attempting to get it all resolved and STILL DO NOT FEEL IT RESOLVED, if your blacklist post still has 5 of my links.

One and a half hours during Easter is still too long. Look, at the end of the day you need to learn about the platform you're using. I've done what I could for you. What we're talking about is monetizing stock images. There is no defamation of any character here -- this is a platform based on the concept of decentralization and the principles of anarchism. It is not Twitter or Facebook where everyone is entitled to everything. The list post is automated. I'd like to think that I didn't waste my time but you're proving it otherwise. I'm not responding any more to this. There are people here who need actual help outside of complaining to be allowed to monetize stockphotos they supposedly purchased once upon a time.

I apologize, @guiltyparties, for loosing my cool and overreacting on all of this. I never intended to make any sort of threat. Now that your folks have downvoted me from 46 down to 4, I give up.

I have absolutely no idea at this point what to do. You guys have won. I raise the white flag, give up, start the power down process and give up.

This is very saddening. Im sorry to see what had happend here.

Im also very curious. Lets assume that in the future steemit would attract businesses. Is it really that easy to completly ruin anybody's account? I mean: is all you need to have huge amount of SP to completly crash competition down?

That would make me believe that huge networks/corporations will be able to control this platform (since they can afford to invest solid resources).

I wish to know what can be done except of really powering down and saying good-bye to this place.

I've read your comments before and I think you pushed it little bit to much. At the end of the day you never know who is sitting on the other site and you were kind of playing with fire. Eh :(

Can you believe that after @adm nuked me from 46 to 4 for a comment, the system no longer allows me to even upload a post (or at least a pic into a post, since I haven't gotten that far to try w/o a pic)? @adm doesn't reply and @steemcleaners says nobody knows who @adm is. It is absolutely amazing to see just how centralized the power is here, when so many believe it to be decentralized.

Im not sure if that means that power is centralized.

I believe it's showing that without centralized power we are gonna deal with "local warlords" and noone ever will be able to protect you.

Steemit is in my opinion great example proving, that idea of decentralization is not always gonna be working fine.

I believe many things need to be centralized. We (as a humanity) didnt grow up to what blockchain has to offer.

Come on. Give me a break. The only one dragging this on is you. I fully complied with your demands and you still will not remove my links on your blacklist. So just remove the links to my posts like I thought you agreed to do on Friday.

You're not on the blacklist.

5 links still on https://steemit.com/steemcleaners/@steemcleaners/steemcleaner-report-for-march-26-2018 as I write this stating "Photo/Image Plagiarism".

I apologize, @steemcleaners, @guiltyparties, @adm et al, if my comments appeared to make any sort of threat. That was never the intention. This whole 3rd active week on steemit has been a week of hell for me. I admit I lost it and overreacted to thinking we had resolved everything on Friday with @quiltyparties only to find my 5 posts on your blacklist on https://steemit.com/steemcleaners/@steemcleaners/steemcleaner-report-for-march-26-2018 stating "Photo/Image Plagiarism". So could you please restore my reputation back to 46 from 4, which you downvoted it to? Please tell me if there is anything else you require to remove those links from your blacklist. Thank you

I have absolutely no idea at this point what to do. @adm, your mega downvote from 46 to 4 yesterday removed all ability to even upload posts to regain my reputation. So there doesn't seem you've even left me any option other than to leave steemit. It makes my steemit experience going into my 4th week here more like a nightmare.

The score next to your name is a reputation score. Making a couple comments with threats resulted in your reputation score being lowered from downvotes. Threats are not a socially productive way to get what you want.

You should be able to post, I think its just the image uploader that doesn't work for reputation scores below 10. Use offsite image hosting until your reputation score improves.

I apologize, if it came across as a threat. That wasn't intended, as it did say I would have no other choice than to CONSIDER... I was emotionally distraught. If you would take some time and read through what I've been through here the last 9 days now for something I was never even guilty of.

I don't see how a more than million dollar downvote on a comment that pushes someone's reputation down a whole 42 points is any more socially productive or even why so severe, especially when I apologized. You have killed everything I worked for over 3 weeks through 405 posts and wiped out twice as much by your downvote on just a few comments. I'm sorry! Come on. Give me a break.

This is a legal threat, which you edited from your comment and didn't acknowledge the edit in this apology.

Original comment from @positivesynergy:

I'm putting you on notice, @steemcleaners, @guiltyparties and whoever else pulls those strings.

If you do not remove the 3 links to 3 of my posts on your publicized blacklist post Steemcleaner Report for March 26, 2018 accusing me of "Photo/Image Plagiarism", which you know damn well were not and have been resolved, I will have no other choice than to seriously consider taking legal action for Defamation of Character.

I was just listening to @Ned in an interview and to quote Ned, the CEO of Steemit Inc. on the question of "downvoting" he said,

"One thing we have learned is Downvoting is BAD. The only thing they should be used for on the platform are to moderate spam."

And Ned went on to say,

"Because what we realize is there's a really strong humaneness to the platform and down voting is a sort of action that represents you know a real heavy hand you know in the real world."

It's at 41:00 on this video:

So my question is are you human enough to see what Ned himself said in this interview, of just how heavy handed your down vote was on my comments that sent me down from 46 to 4 and willing to remove the flag and restore my rep, @adm, especially given I apologized here publicly?

Earlier in the interview I learned that a downvoted low reputation DOES in fact effect my ability to regain my reputation on steemit. The last post I did after this one proved that out that I now have to get 5 times the upvotes to gain the same upward gains in reputation as before.

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