MSP Blacklist Reasons - Why can I not use the upvote bots?

in #minnowsupportproject7 years ago (edited)

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Why did I end up on the MSP Blacklist?


So, you have found yourself on the Blacklist here at MSP? You want to know what could have possibly caused you to suddenly be prevented from using our free upvote bot? Not only that, but you find that all unpaid @minnowsupport upvotes have been removed?

I am going to explain some of the information we are frequently asked about this.

For those that are wondering, you can determine if you are on the Blacklist by checking the status of whether or not @minnowsupport has you muted. This is how we operate the Blacklist.

Here is the list of possible reasons for you to have ended up in this situation.

You can also consider this a list of things not to do if you want to continue to use our upvote bot.

The Possible reasons for becoming Blacklisted:


  • Low Quality Content:
    • Copy-Pasted content: Taking most of the information from another article and providing very little additional information of your own.
    • Low-effort content: Posting just images, a few images and no words, an embedded video and little commentary, or anything else that might be seen as low effort.

  • Plagiarism:
    • Stealing the entire content of another creator, on Steemit or otherwise. Even if you only list a source, you are likely to end up in the above 'Low Quality Content' category. This likely got you banned from PALnet as well.

  • Multiple Account Abuse:
    • The attempted circumvention of our 12 hour cool-down through multiple accounts. This will lead to a ban from PALnet anyways, we just Blacklist for good measure.

What can I do to get taken off the Blacklist?


  • First:
    • Nothing is going to happen instantly. We always let a Blacklist entry stick for a couple weeks at least. Don't expect an instant removal from it.

  • Second:
    • If the reason you were muted is due to the content of your posts, the simple answer is to improve it. Ask members of our community what you can do to improve your posts. It's why we don't ban you for this example, we want you to learn from us.

  • Finally:
    • If you have been banned from PALnet and Blacklisted along with it, you need to find and contact a member of leadership on the MSP Probation server.
      (Click here to go there.)

Any other questions or concerns can be taken up with me or another member of Leadership on PALnet or Probation



Thanks -

Discordiant

MSP Moderator and Anti-Abuse Team Leader

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Why's the list gotta be black, huh?

I guess it should have been "whitelist". Lol!

Where can the list be reviewed? Can I use it to prevent abuse from?

Since they use the muting function, you can check the list at this page:
https://steem.makerwannabe.com/@minnowsupport/followed/1

Everyone muted by @minnowsupport is on the blacklist.

You could also use an API to pull information from the blockchain. Information around that is in the developer notes in Steem's github.

One can also go to this link which is a tool by @inertia that allows a simple table view of follows/mutes.

That's a much more usable format. Thank you!

I use it to verify that my spreadsheet is accurate on a regular basis.

I can try and provide you with a way to view it. Currently the links I have available would allow editing, and I can't have people outside our leadership doing that.

Sure thing I understand, I would like to have some kind of API to implement this blacklists, maybe all the steemit services can try to build one. Maybe a crowd funded utopian-io project. I'll contact you in discord :)

I am still working on a way to get all the services together to share a Blacklist across all the bots/services.

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Okay, so for people are completely ignorant (apparently), how do we figure out why we got blacklisted? Everything I post is original content. I'm not spamming anyone... I really do not understand what on earth I'm doing wrong and would really like to stop getting it wrong.

Maybe I just really need to avoid the whole chatroom thing because I feel like I am completely out of my element. At any rate, I'm really concerned that I'm doing something really wrong without realizing it and I'd like to NOT continue to do so.

You do not appear to be on our blacklist. Did you register with a different account?

No. I only have the one account. I have tried posting a link for upvotes twice now. Once I figured out what I did wrong (totally misunderstood the 'don't post until after 30 minutes' thing... but then I tried a couple of days later and it said that my post couldn't be upvoted, so I assumed the 'ban' or whatever was still on, even though the message said it would be held for 12 hours.

I'm just totally and utterly confused as to how I'm messing up. I only post original content. I usually only post once a day on my blog and I've not tried to post for an upvote more than once a day. I just don't want to end up doing something wrong and just get a reputation for being a huge pain in the butt (and yes, I've read the rules and I don't understand what I'm missing). I'm almost afraid to try to do the $upvote thing again.

Find me on discord, I'd be glad to help you. My name and avatar are the same as here.

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how can I contact you @discordiant on discord?

I searched for you but couldn't locate you.

I've just been placed on the list 30 minutes ago, and I was removed from PAL. couldn't join back either.

You would have to be on the same server as me. Try joining the MSP-Probation server I linked above?

no link above, Can you provide it here?

https://discord.gg/Sx5RfvK I managed to forget to put the link there.

Very helpful information. Thank you for the education. I have been concerned that I would be flagged as a bot or stalker because I upvote/resteem/comment on almost all of @imaginationicon stuff. It is really excellent content. I have followed him ever since I saw his Appalachian Trail Video a few years ago. He had cancer and is such an inspiration to me. He is the one that introduced me to steemit. This is an excellent platform. I feel grateful to be here and I do not want to cause him or myself any harm. @discordiant @minnowsupport Please let me know if my exuberant support of him is uncool.

Sometimes steemcleaners flag the posts which have a proper citation of the source. I have been through that and even after confronting them, they didn't unflag the post. So coming back to blacklisting by MSP which is done on the basis of flagging of MSP upvoted post by Steemcleaners. What if the steemcleaners wrongly flagged a post, as happened to me, will the user still be blacklisted? I have been through this and it took me a week or two to get to @discordiant for whitelisting me again.

We do verify the reports I get from working with steemcleaners and make the determination myself on the post. A lot of the time, even if I don't decide on plagiarism, I do tend to find that they are copy-pasted content, which will still result in a Blacklist.

Good to know a manual rechecking is done even after steemcleaner report.

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