The HIVE Coup: A Deep State's Dream Come True

in #hive4 years ago (edited)

For many years, I have followed the work of David Icke, who along with many others, are warning that we are moving towards a world in which digital money will be used to control the masses. I wonder what he would think about this HIVE fiasco? This is a microcosm of a possible macrocosm. The HIVE High Council demonstrated how a small group of people can freeze funds if they don't like you, and want to punish you for who you are or what you do. This is what the Deep State has in store for us, and the HIVE rebellion has set the example of how it can be done; but done badly! They did not think this thing through; they did not seek legal nor ethical counsel; they were impulsive, self-righteous and full of pride. And now they are having a bitter taste of their own medicine, as I wrote about in The HIVE Mind: Premeditated and Diabolical, which was written before this Softfork 22.8888!

Why are so many people upset with Justin Sun? I'll tell you why; because Justin Sun has stepped into the house and said, "Look everyone, the Emperor has no clothes!" And after having a good look around, added, "This house is a mess!"

Justin Sun did not dress the Emperor with invisible clothing! Justin Sun and The TRON Foundation did not create the mess in this house. It was the HIVE High Council, along with their minions, that created this massive failure in both the Steem blockchain, as well as the Steemit social app.

The knowing that accounts could be frozen is not something that came to light when Justin Sun stepped into the picture! It has been known by the HIVE High Council for a long time now, and this will eventually come to the surface!

In The HIVE Token and the Great STEEM Heist, I warned that these HIVE rogues were attempting to funnel our STEEM into their delusional revolution, and that eventually someone would wake up to this. Now we have Softfork 22.8888 as a strategic countermove.

When these kinds of things take place, it's not easy to make quick decisions; you really don't have much time to think. Yesterday, I removed my votes from those Witnesses who have activated Softfork 22.8888 because I needed time to reflect, and to listen to the opinions of other Steemians. I would like to say to those Witnesses who have enabled Softfork 22.8888...

@steemhunt @zzan.witnesses @dlike @dev.supporters @snackplus @triple.aaa @justyy @future.witness @jayplay.witness @indo.witness @bukio @steem-dragon @maiyude @hoasen @matreshka @hinomaru-jp @parse @menacamel @cryptoking777 @rlawlstn123 @the707 @ayogom @skuld2000.wit @segye.witness

...that I had removed my votes because I do not agree with the freezing of accounts. However, I do understand why this action was taken, and I offer my compliments for this clever move. I am returning my votes to all of you because I see that this is a LEGAL REACTION to an ILLEGAL ACTION. This is a pure question of securing the blockchain, and protecting the stability of the STEEM token. When stability has been returned, I would hope very much that you dedicate yourselves to insuring that the freezing of funds can no longer take place in the future; and that you do not punish those Witnesses that did not agree with this move. Thank you!

To everyone who continues to view this as a matter of centralization or decentralization, please understand that these are not fixed states. Centralization and decentralization are an ebb and flow. When centralization concentrates too much power in the hands of a few to the disadvantage of the many, the force of decentralization steps in to tear the system down. And when decentralization creates too much chaos and stagnates growth, the force of centralization steps in, restores order and reignites growth. This is the nature of a Universe always seeking Balance; which, itself, is also not a fixed state.

Do not cling too hard to ideologies that only serve to further blind you in a moment of confusion!

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Please correct me if I am mistaken, but are you running a Witness node on the HIVE blockchain?

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...and yet still the downvoting abuse continues on both chains.

Until that stops, neither will have my vote for "decentralized". Such a catchy word thrown around all over now... Soon the Central Banks will be calling themselves Decentralized....

Steem/Hive have shown us that, like you said before, are kind of the microcosm... Funny little humans making a digital version of reality...or is it digital versions of digital versions of.......blocks.....
hmm...blocks...chains......block-chains.....black?

black cube.jpg

All one big fractal, holographic dream! ;D

I agree with you 100% that once the Steem blockchain is stable, our first focus should be on blocking trolls, and eliminating the useless downvote; an idea that I have been pushing for a long time now! I wrote about it 10 months ago here:
Interesting Times for Steem

could you please explain me this:

This is a pure question of securing the blockchain, and protecting the stability of the STEEM token.

or point me to a link with the explanation. I don't understand what was the risk to the security of the chain.

First the HIVE High Council froze accounts, then they dropped the system's nodes and finally they hoped to funnel out STEEM tokens into their personal coffers and the HIVE blunder. When we really look behind the scenes, this is a financial and legal battle, and the HIVE High Council have not prepared well for this, and more to come!

dropped the system's nodes?

they hoped to funnel out STEEM tokens into their personal coffers

steem that they own on their account is theirs to do whatever with it. so if you decide to sell steem your steem should be freezed?

i still don't see the threat to the steem blockchain. what could they do to the blockchain when steemit (justin) is in full control by witness voting?

they are milking steem? well a lot of people for years was trying to milk steem, free downvotes made it less profitable, but for that you need people to organise to downvote.

I appreciate you sharing your opinions, but your thoughts are garbled and confusing. I can't really make out what you are trying to say. You seem to be looking for many answers to many questions in this time of confusion.

dropped the system's nodes?

Witnesses frequently ran RPC & seed nodes to support the websites & Dapps running on the steam blockchain. Witnesses disabled their nodes when they shut down their witness servers.

steem that they own on their account is theirs to do whatever with it. so if you decide to sell steem your steem should be freezed?

It seems powering down and selling their steem is a threat to the steem blockchain. Accounts like @darthknight bought over a 1.5 Million STEEM.

i still don't see the threat to the steem blockchain. what could they do to the blockchain when steemit (justin) is in full control by witness voting?

Nothing. That was the reason for the fork. Both sides would be deadlocked in a stalemate for quite a while. Without majority witness control neither side could move forward.

they are milking steem? well a lot of people for years was trying to milk steem, free downvotes made it less profitable, but for that you need people to organise to downvote.

I find the thought that the existing witnesses milking are a threat hilarious. In about 12 weeks they will have little or no stake in steem. They will still have accounts like @haejin & @crystalliu publicly milking STEEM and all the other farms that are stealthier.

They got what they wanted, removal of @spaminator to flag accounts that systematically milk the reward pool. "Accounts have the right to use their stake any way they wish, including increasing the return on their investment through voting."

Witnesses frequently ran RPC & seed nodes to support the websites & Dapps running on the steam blockchain. Witnesses disabled their nodes when they shut down their witness servers.

well they were not witnesses anymore, they will not get witness rewards, they were accused of being hackers, why would they spend their own money to run nods? would you?
Also them disabling nods make them less influential on steem and less dangerous for the blockchain, so that is certainly not the reason to block private funds.

It seems powering down and selling their steem is a threat to the steem blockchain

nop, it could affect the price of steem but no threat to steem blockchain. it is like you have money in the bank and you want to withdraw it, but bank blocks your account and says that you withdrawing your money is threat to the economy.

They did it to manipulate the market. creating fols price of steem. no threat to steem blockchain here. you can see that they are dumping hive on the market, and hive blockchain still works.

how do you look on @blockbrothers being unvoted as soon as the said that they will not freeze private funds? they were witness no 1 and now they are 50.

I find the thought that the existing witnesses milking are a threat hilarious.

you misunderstood me, i thought old witnesses (accounts that were blocked) milking as a reason to block them. but as you said, there are many other accounts that are doing it and no one is blocking them.

They got what they wanted, removal of @spaminator to flag accounts that systematically milk the reward pool. "Accounts have the right to use their stake any way they wish, including increasing the return on their investment through voting."

new witnesses did that, not old ones. so new witnesses are not fighting spam? is there a reason why should we all not spam now? so i was stupid for not abusing the platform for 2 years? well looks like i was...

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