Fighting Abuse on Steem: Fake account of @quentindeschamps on Hive

in WORLD OF XPILAR2 years ago (edited)

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Hello my dear Steemians,

 

Today we have a case that we definitely wanted to highlight to make sure that all of you not only silently looking and assuming something but actively asking and clarifying the situation to prevent and to stop Abusers.

As many of you know we are looking after Visual Art creators and we are in contact with many of them they belong to our Community "WOX" but also who are a part of @art-venture Artists. As we do everyday we are looking through and if there is any good ones that may deserve more attention but also if there are users who

  • Creating Original, their own content and
  • who are Powering Up all the Payout according the rules of #club100 as the Steemit Team would like

Those users we tag to @steemcurator01 and that was the same yesterday when we saw @quentindeschamps wonderful photo where we tagged SC01,but this case turned out to be real Adventure that is why we want to tell you the details so that you learn something for you.

 


Stolen Identity of @quentindeschamps on Steemit and fake account in Hive


 

Quentin is a French Photographer, who is absolutely amazing and unique in the way of his works. You can immediately recognize his style and it is not possible not to love his works like those posts:

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Quentin from beginning on was only on Steemit and posting here Exclusively and he is using hte tag #steemexclusive for that, initially his posts were also supported by @steemcurator01 but recently something happened and their support just stopped. We did not know why but this is sometimes the case, people who were supported then could be just overseen and we thought that was the reason, therefore, yesterday when I left this comment and tagged SC01 there was following reply that made us a bit confused:

 
https://steemit.com/hive-185836/@quentindeschamps/julia-in-spaceship-dieselpunk-club100
 
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Currently I am working on long night shifts but @myskye is doing all the work with Steemit and of course he started to look into the details. Understandably we know that sometimes users do post in Hive and using #steemexclusive tag incorrectly that is why we have mentioned that to Quentin:

 
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Can you imagine how the person is feeling when he thinks that he is doing everything correctly, he is posting his own work and presenting on the platform where he belongs to but then discovers that someone else is using your good name and making money with your work on other Platform?

 

 


Fake Account of @quentindeschamps in Hive


 

Looking into the account of Fraud user we see that it was opened in January this year

https://hive.blog/@quentindeschamps/posts

 
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On some occasion he was lucky and received good rewards for stolen posts. After we were told that this is a fake account we have contacted Hivewatchers, on there "Report the Abuse" link and reported it and shortly after that the user was downvoted by Hivewatchers and blacklisted:

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Here is the the Blacklist that is created on Hive with abusers and you also can check if you have any suspicious acocunt, the account is now there:

https://spaminator.me/api/bl/all.txt

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Quntin asked us is it is possible to recover the account and take him, I do not think so because the user who created has a Master Key and I doubt he will give it back voluntary.

Also, I wanted to share here the link to Hivewatcher's discord just in case you found that someone is stolen your account and you need help to deal with it on Hive:

https://hive.blog/hive-174301/@hivewatcher/r8dhsr

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https://discord.gg/ZXBqxuyC

But also here is the Form to report Abusers:

https://hivewatchers.com/reports/new

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General thoughts about Fighting abuse


 

I think in general it is important to fight Abuse because they damage the reputation of Fair users, they putting the people off sharing their Original Work if it is possible to steal and if Frauds are able to steal Identity and enrich themselves with name and property of others.

That is why this is a responsibility of everyone who is actively posting be cautious and not to just see and ignore but to check if such accounts are of real user or not

Like in this case where @quentindeschamps posting and even did not know that there is someone who created a fake account and earning Cryptos. In this particular case, it is obvious that @steemcurator01 noticed that because it has stopped Supporting Quentin but why seeing that SC01 did not think and ask Quentin why he is using #steemexclusive in his posts on Steemit also has the same posts in Hive. In such situation I think:

Whoever is behind the @steemcurator01 account had to ask the user:

  • if the account on Hive belongs to him, and
  • not just stop supporting and ignoring that!

Because if Steemit Team ignoring such situation what do you expect from simple users

In our opinion, we have to work cross platform and this should be collaboration of Steemit and Hive Teams in order to protect the Originality of users and to stop Frauders. That was the reason why I shared the good working system of Hive Anti-abuse Team here and still like in the Past I am calling the Steemit Team to create something like that so that our users are also good protected .

In the past it was an Initiative @ac-cheetah was created by @papi.mati but it did not work and even despite of this automated message we do not see the human work behind to investigate and to deal with it:

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As always, faithfully yours we are Guardians of steem,

@stef1 and @myskye

 


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Or maybe it is the role of the Moderators of the Community where the #steemexclusive tag was being used... !!!

I believe everyone who is curating the posts, no matter from the role should be cautious about it. This is not our official job and we all do support our community members on voluntary basis alongside with our real jobs in our life. For example,last 3 nights I am working 12,5 hours in acute hospital because of sickness absences. It is like everywhere the good enterprise will work if the leaders of it show that their care about their simple members and not give them any reason to leave the platform because there are alternative ones.

Sungguh informasi yang sangat berguna.
Yang terhormat bapak steemcurator01 saya ingin bertanya apakah saya sudah bisa menggunakan taging #club100 di postingan saya. Dan saya juga ingin mengundang anda untuk mengunjungi akun saya, apakah saya sudah layak mendapatkan dukungan dari anda, karena dalam beberapa pekan ini saya selalu berusaha untuk aktif di platform ini, tetapi saya kurang mendapatkan dukungan dari anda. Mohon pencerahannya dari anda. Hormat saya untuk anda😇🤗

I guess this just happens to new users, I have an account with the same username both on Hive and Blurt, but it is because I was part of the original airdrop of each platform, so if you find the same article of mine on two or three platforms I would have no excuse, the accounts are mine. I did not have to even create an account it was created for me. I do post my Actifit report on all three platforms. But I guess all new users should create accounts on all three platforms with the same username to avoid what happened to @quentindeschamps.

I absolutely agree, this will reduce temptation for abuser to use someone's name for their tricks.

 2 years ago 

Yes I didn't know that ^^ I guess it's too late for me :)

sorry for the offtop, not directly connected to the abuse subject, but if you have some excessive downvote power, could you use it on this post, full of lunacy and shameless lies and extremist claims. thank you in advance.

You could have spoken under the material. We have freedom of speech. Could expose a lie, if it is in the material. But I stand for freedom of speech. Therefore, I will support you with a like. No need for fear! Tell the truth! Say any opinion! Even if the opinion does not coincide with the opinion of the author of the material. Freedom of speech! Freedom of journalism! These are my principles as a journalist. What are your goals? What are your principles? Why are you against freedom of speech?

But I stand for freedom of speech.

according to what I see in said post, you rather stand for the shit.

These are very strong facts and arguments. Ha ha ha. Perhaps you have something to say about the body of the article? Or just insults, emotions and no facts?

Hi @stef1

Do you want to join any community curators team?? If you are willing to join you can contact me on discord ashkhan#8433

Hi @ashkhan, thank you for asking, but I have to many commitments and will not be able to join any curation teams.

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 2 years ago 

Unfortunately...nothing new, theft continues to flourish and mean people do not become less. Everything is like in real life.
It may be a good idea to have your accounts under the same name on each of the STEEM sites. At the very least, this will prevent name theft. Although the content can be stolen and published under a different nickname. This is a problem and it's good that you're tracking down these thieves, thank you very much for your work.

Yes, that is only the way to try to make the life of frauds difficult. It is good if such cases detected early and stopped. I have a feeling recently someone intentionally choosing the members of WOX, especially who are doing Visual art but also I have suspicion that this might be the same person all the time.

 2 years ago 

I wonder if it is possible to compare the AP address of these accounts?
If possible, then it is possible to create a thief tracking bot. This would prevent relapses.
WOX is handy for thieves. There is something here that can be "sold." Visual art is always and everywhere in demand.

 2 years ago 

Que bueno que descubrieron el fraude. Lamentablemente este tipo de situaciones parecen nunca acabar...

 2 years ago 

Hello dear friend @stef1 good afternoon, excellent intervention by @myskye to detect this type of thing.
I really appreciate all the information you give us, we will be attentive to what we can find
Great job, congratulations for all you do for
I wish you all a splendid evening

Thank you @jlufer, such information useful once people deal directly with such cases and in if they find themselves being attacked, because we also had been in such situation in the past and did not know what to do.

It's good that you exposed the fraudster in a timely manner, and he will not be able to use the good name of Quentin Deschamps.

Yes, but still we were a bit late. This is a hard job to track and stop those abusers.

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