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in #abuse7 years ago (edited)

Containing some primitive use of such a great tools like Steemit by some users.

In fact, there are users that seem to don't understand how to use Steem and are not enough mature to correctly use their voting power to votes and downvotes in a meaningful way.

Their will be more productive for them to burn their computer to heat up their house than use as as they use today.
Apparently some individuals in our species can not be trusted with modern tools. However, in contrary as a child with a hammer or an other tools that require a minimum of intelligence, we can not take theses tools back.

Theses non-mature use of theses tools, are a real threat to the Steem economy/value and system in general.

This is also a threat to third party application built on the top of Steem, such as Esteem8.

Because of their primitives comportment, user experience is reduced as well as our specie reputation and evolution.


Esteem8 has so taken a initiative to ensure that theses uses will non-longer be possible.


#1 Spot

This project will started to be developed immediately after the beta launch and is described as follow:

  • First a page will be available on the Esteem8 APP to select a user and analyze it's incoming/outcoming downvotes.
    • Then, downvotes could be sorted/filtered by content type based on repetitive keywords and/or repetitive users.
    • Downvotes could be sorted/filtered by weight.
  • In the second part of this project, a service will be lunched to automatically analyze abusive downvotes in the whole blockchain and display/report them.

#2 Report

  • Then users will be able to report theses "abusives/unjustifieds" flags uses in a tag that will be filtered by votes number with a protection to ensure that "fake" votes are not counted.

*abusives/unjustifieds: also for a single post (maybe in a distinct tag).
*Fake: new account (without a minimal amount of post), more precisely all accounts that are not for a normal and personal use.


#3 Engage

  • Then a bot will post daily results of theses in an other tags. (Other bot by other thirds party could also lunch an other algorithm)
  • Users will be able to see who abusives flag who, what kind of content and also why with proofs and statistics.

#4 Canalize mass flag-back

Then community (all users subscribed to theses results and more) will be able flag-back.
Esteem8 will flag account's posts results voted by community.

A function will be available to flag a defined amount of post with a defined weight with a single click.


Thanks for reading.

This would normally restore a great user experience and clean threats to the Steem economy/value.

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I just got flagged as soon as I posted this a few minutes ago! https://steemit.com/photography/@thedeplorable1/moon-through-the-trees

It seem to be nearly always the same frustrated group of account, it's very annoying for UX.

I don't know if they know that their comportment are counter-productive for Steem or if they do that intentionally.

Hope that it will help you.

Yes, it does. It gives me a place to start and I know where many of the issues are coming from. Any reputable platform does not test at the cost of its supporters! Test on your own dime not mine! Thanks for the comment and article!

Thanks for sharing.

Your flag seem to have been removed, happy for you.

Did you remember who flagged you ?

Who's flag this post with the most vote weight.

I wrote a community encouragement post today, got 5 or more flags, with massive 10% flags/DV, by the TOP whales, - when 1% would have been fair..... it killed the rep score and payout, and I had a lot of time and thought into it but who cares, about encouraging content right that is then worth $1?

It was a failed experiment and these flags, with no start or end date, or announcement, are driving good people off here daily. Poorly thought out, at best.

https://steemit.com/steemit/@barrydutton/steemit-people-i-m-thankful-for-mindful-community-engagement-encouragement-e-1-march-12-2017

Nothing like intimidation to welcome new users. I looked at other SM groups and found a bunch of whiners. At least here I get a warm Fuzzy feeling. At lease this group understands money and doesn't want it all taken away.

Votes info update

%VoterTimeweightReward shares
-2%engagement2017-03-13 14:54:120.000-211,203,503,551.000
-2%thecyclist2017-03-13 14:54:150.000-122,687,872,818.000
-2%berniesanders2017-03-13 14:54:180.000-3,689,362,637.000
-2%nextgencrypto2017-03-13 14:54:210.000-51,309,043,434.000
28%slowwalker 2017-03-13 14:54:36428.348 PV710.195 GRS
1%wang2017-03-13 15:04:03130.761 PV154.039 GRS
14%created2017-03-13 15:04:031,035.456 PV1.019 TRS
-2%smooth2017-03-13 15:04:090.000-505,247,311,878.000

Some accounts didn't like a healthy initiative to spot abused use of downvotes by a trusted way. Is that desired and organized censorship ?

Could @steemit @dan @ned @dantheman @freedom take a look ?

It seem that the exact same group of flaggers have commonly decided to downvote your post with the photos.

Apparently it's not only smooth but it's a group, they are organized and they flag at the same ratio in ~10 sec.

This is a serious issue for a censorship proof platform. They are stakeholder but with theses flags they apparently are getting the Steem lower than higher considering their buying.

wow.. thanks for checking! I am not sure how to respond!

Well, i'm asking why does the guardians (Steem holders) are not resolving this issue, they are intelligent and well understand the impact it has.

Are they have been threaten by this group ?

From 5 anonymous person, probably not, is the group largely wider than we think ? If the group does not simply limit to 5 well organized persons, who could be this group ? Why to do that without apparent reason and loose their money ?

Lets fight back if we know how too!?

When I see post I have in my feed that seem like :

And from the same group, i don't know what to think.

Why do they announce in their roadmap that they want to decentralize their organization physically ?

@thedeplorable1 @dan @ned @cryptoctopus @krnel @fyrstikken @good-karma @cryptoctopus

I purpose to write a little article about the situation that many are in because of theses shits, and make a call to action to mass flag back and eventually copy+post the article.

I will start by writing the article and then flag all their post.

@thedeplorable1 @krnel @kafkanarchy84 @fyrstikken @good-karma

I've notice we are in the same situation, flagged by the same flaggers.

We can get out of theses.

https://steemit.com/flag/@primerz/call-to-flag-citizens

Peace.

This is just plain stupid. Anybody can do what they want with their power. Who are you? The flag police?

This is a serious issue for a censorship proof platform

What you are advocating for is even worse

Interesting I've also been flagged by the same group.

"Real eyes realize real lies"

Here it's more kind of censorship.


Thank's backyard people to retain us to evolve.

The truth, to open our eyes.

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