Vaccination Dilemma! Seeking the truth about vaccines, we're expecting a baby in Indonesia.
After a friend brought up the topic of vaccinations and asked about my views on whether or not I would wish for my child to have them I realized that although I was aware of the debate about both the necessity of vaccinations and their safety, I had not actually done any research into the risks and safety of having them or not in order to form an educated opinion.
All being well my fiancee and I will be having a baby in a little under half a years time, and naturally I want what is best for my child.
A Broader Perspective
So I set out just to get a general broader perspective on the issue of injections and whether I would want to allow them for my child in the future or indeed whether Indonesia, the country in which I currently reside, enforces any mandatory vaccinations.
I didn't get far into the entire subject as I was stumped with the "vitamin K injection", an injection routinely advised, and administered directly following the birth of the baby.
Vitamin K?
Now seemingly from what I have read, supplementing vitamin K to a baby is not a bad idea as babies are commonly born with a vitamin K deficiency. During pregnancy, unlike other vitamins that the baby has priority over, vitamin K is retained largely by the mother and passed through the placenta to baby in very small amounts.
Vitamin K is responsible for blood coagulation, in theory if the baby was absorbing too much of this vitamin from the mother and the mother injured herself she could bleed out and die, unfortunately this deficiency in the newborn can and in rare cases does cause hemorrhagic disease, uncontrolled internal or external bleeding which can lead to death.
However, it also appears on the other hand that a good diet packed with leafy green vegetables should be sufficient to ensure the baby is born with enough vitamin K.
What Is In The Jab
If the notion of sticking a needle in a newborn is not disturbing enough then lets look at ingredients that can be found in some of these "viles" of vitamin K.
Poloysurbate 80
known to cause these complications in animal testing.
-reproductive disorders, infertility
-cancer
-genetic mutations
polysurbate 80 also appears to speed up the time until puberty when injected into rats, and is listed as an irritant. I did not find any data on human testing regarding the substance being directly injected.
Aluminium
A known neurotoxin linked to or know to cause.
-Autism
-Impairment of memory and cognition
-Brain inflammation.
-Autoimmune reactions
-Alzheimer's
These are just a few potential possible problems regarding the vitamin K injection. When we look at ingredients of other jabs we find, to list a few,
-Thimerosal (ethylmercury/mercury)
-Formaldehyde
-Monosodium Glutamate (MSG)
It doesn't take a genius to realize that these chemicals are not good and nobody in the right mind would agree to stick a child with a needle and administer these such harmful poisons. Or would they?
I'm Confused
I'm tired and confused and I want what is best for my baby when it is born but I honestly don't think what we are told is best by the government is true.
I am not concerned with conspiracies right now, but I am concerned about what will be best for my child.
It would be very easy for me to just give up and (in denial) trust that what we are told about how safe vaccines and jabs are by governing bodies, in fact I almost feel I wish I hadn't even looked into the subject and just gone along with what the Doctors will tell me, as right now I don't feel I have the time, the energy, nor the mental capacity to systematically weigh up the pros and cons of the vaccinations debate.
I just want the truth.
The truth will piss you off, or should. I don't have the words at this late hour to do justice to the criminal actions that are connected to big pharma and the medical mafia, of which many government agencies take part. It is a journey filled with deceitful acts and purposeful and deliberate lies. The short version is this......If it is promoted by the government, you can guarantee it is not in your best interest.
Yes it would seem this way. Thank you
There is a series of videos called The Truth About Vaccines and a documentary called Vaxxed. Both are very good at explaining the origin of vaccinations and the big money behind them; even the laws made to protect the pharmaceutical companies and why most doctors don't know any better. For me, the list of ingredients would be enough to put me off. I only wish I had known better when raising my own children!
Ahhh thank you. I am undecided whether I am completely against vaccination but seemingly the amount of vaccinations suggested and the number of mandatory vaccinations in certain countries have raised to a ridiculous amount per individual.
I am with you on that. It is not easy to declare you are on one side or the other. If the ingredients look safe, then maybe. If the ingredients look dangerous, then no. The one big thing I took away from watching the videos is that our immune system is designed to deal with most viruses and bacteria that enter through the nose or mouth. Injecting directly into the bloodstream actually by-passes the gut (where the immune system is strongest) and therefor by-passes its intended target (making the immune system recognize the enemy). One more thing to take into consideration is the actual DANGER of catching whatever it is you expect to be immunized for. Is it really that dangerous to catch these diseases and become NATURALLY immune from that? Sometimes the prevention is more dangerous than the thing you fear!
Also, know that those making vaccinations are exempt from requiring the same testing that other medications require! This is why they push so many vaccines. It is far cheaper to put out a vaccine than a regular drug because next to no testing is required and they can't be sued if it damages you! That makes it truly frightening!
I was reading about FluMist briefly earlier, a nasal spray for babies and children to apparently protect against the flu virus, and although it appears a safer option to a jab there are apparent risks with the virus being administered almost directly to the brain this way, as well as ingredients that I would seem unnecessary, it's just not good.
What's so bad about a flue? Everyone gets that and only if you are ill with an underlying condition would you be at risk of dying. I would NEVER take a flue vaccine and prefer a few days of being normally sick. Besides, the flu keeps mutating so getting the correct strain is unlikely. I know people who get the vaccine and STILL catch the flu because it was another strain.
Yes my friend raised an interesting question in a conversation earlier "how exactly do they predict what the flu strain will be next year and pre-prepare a vaccine to combat it?" I don't know if there is a simple answer to it but it's still an interesting question.
They simply guess. There is no way to know for sure.
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I will comment again when I have time to dig
Up some resources for you. I keep meaning to post about my vaccine research journey but I have yet to do so. For now, highly recommend the book Dissolving Illusions by Dr Kathleen Humphries
Thank you, I will look up the book and will keep an eye out for when you do write a post! followed!
A lot of this is focused on the US - but I think this is a good starting point to see some of the corruption behind the medical studies:
http://fourteenstudies.org
This site requires a bit of digging but it essentially shows the 14 main studies that the United States (and maybe other countries?) use to site that vaccines have no link to autism. Then it breaks down and examines each study and ranks the studies' integrity.
http://www.nvic.org
Again also about the American schedule but I think this site is valuable for really understanding the diseases themselves better. I think when you make a choice not to vaccinate, part of the process is becoming empowered by understanding childhood illnesses enough that they no longer seem as scary. I know what to do if my kids get the Measles, and so I don't feel like I'm taking a "risk"
http://www.putchildrenfirst.org/index2.html
This site is a fantastic timeline of some specific events but detail with many official documents attached how the danger of thimerisol was knowingly conceals and studies intentionally manipulated by the CDC
This is my vaccine pinterest board that I use to save various articles and resources:
https://www.pinterest.com/ectodoobie/vax/
Thank you very much! "part of the process is becoming empowered by understanding childhood illnesses enough that they no longer seem as scary" This is a very important point, at the moment I do feel slightly subject to scaremongering from the west with regards to being in a developing country and the importance of immunisation, to be fair the term "developing country" saddens me as it generally symbolises westernisation but that is a different matter. I will look through these resources and further my education . Thanks again.
Well and I don't know specifics enough to know on Indonesia specifically, but I do know that there are certain types/brands of some vaccines that are not permitted to be sold in the US but are still sold to other countries. I think it's a problem in India, vaccines causing polio, etc. there are more headlines in Europe and Asia about vaccine lawsuits because Americans aren't allowed to sue vaccine manufacturers. There have also been vaccine campaigns in Africa and I think Mexico where people were given drugs that cause infertility in the guise of a tetanus shot.
I am quite shocked by the whole thing. It is good that steemit is here to get this kind of information out there!
Great informative post. Resteeming
Thank you for the resteem!!!
This is a really complicated topic and a heart wrenching decision. There are tons of people on here with lots of info and research. My oldest is 19, and when he was born, the few people who even asked about this only said that I was weird for choosing not to vaccinate. I had a few family members send me information attempting to change my mind, but they eventually let it go. My youngest is 3, and I'd say the worst part of this decision now is how violent the conversation has gotten. People now tell me I'm abusive or neglectful or endangering other children's lives.
The best you can do is to research thoroughly and make the best decision for your family. For me it's a cost/benefit thing. For most of the vaccines, I don't see the diseases as dangerous enough to warrant the potential reactions. In other cases, the diseases are so rare, it doesn't justify potential reactions. That's a judgement call. You have to look at the facts, incidence of disease where you live, and access to medical care. The other big issue for me is that I don't see vaccines as particularly effective. You are trying to stimulate immunity through artificial means. It turns out it doesn't work that well, which is why boosters are required. It actually only stimulates a part of the immune system, not the whole thing.
Anyway, it's a big decision. I hope you find a decision you can make peace with. And congratulations! Parenting is the best gig ever!
Thank you for sharing, it is a brave thing to go against the consensus and important to be authentic to yourself in decisions such as these, I am in no doubt that you are in fact a solar super mama! I will look into the whole issue further and keep an eye on the vaccine feed on steemit also. Thank you for the suggestions. Heart wrenching it is, from where I stand the choice can not be made lightly either for or against, but I'm leaning towards against. Respect for staying true!
We made a host of unpopular decisions. No circumcision. Alternative educational things. You have to do what you think is best and tell others that this is what's best for your family.
Yes, and the education thing is a whole other topic 😂
You just have to get used to people thinking you're weird. People are so bossy with parents! It floored me when I had my first kid. People feel totally free to just tell you how you should raise your child. It's bizarre.
Well I guess I have this to look forward to, thanks for the heads up.
Sure. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news. Having a baby is mostly fabulous.
Interesting post! I understand your desire for the truth... This is a deep and complex subject! Like all parents I know you only want the best for your new child. Keep researching! I am hopeful that the Steemit community will have some good input for you! We can talk about this in person if you wish! =)
Cheers @jockey, as you say it is a big subject and it burned my head out starting to look into it, I will message you about a chat though we will probably bump in to each other anyway. Thank you!
Resteemed! =)
Thank You @Jockey I really appreciate it! Keep up the good work and keep spreading the love, the knowledge, the wisdom and the power 🙂
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STOPThe recommendations are made by professionals of health, not by pharmacists. Please protect babies from dangerous illness.
Pasteur understands what I mean.
Thank you for your comment
It gets a lot simpler once you learn the whole process of vaccination is just a giant con. There are no benefits, just a huge pile of risks.
http://www.frot.co.nz/design/health/vaccination/
Thanks, this puts things quite simply. I will have to look for the evidence to decide whether vaccines actually do what they are supposed to do, or whether they do "exactly what is says on the tin" and poison us
As you can probably tell, I made up my mind about this long ago (late last century), and have given up even arguing it - it ties in with a bunch of the conspiracy stuff I've been researching for the past 20 years, so I don't see it as complex at all .
I'm really only interested in things I don't understand - which these days is more stuff like cryptocurrencies and mental inter-connectedness.
Politicians lie and drug companies kill, it's pretty simple really!
I was having a conversation just yesterday about how when you are aware of the truth "out there" all there is left is the ultimate truth or the truth of our very being.
Following you now - looks like we could have some common interests!
Wonderful!!!!!
Thank you, I will look at this link later 🤔