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RE: I have an announcement.

in #threespeak5 years ago (edited)

Please reconsider where you are hosting this if you chose the UK. Your chosen paradigm for what constitutes illegality is seriously flawed.
"3. No illegal content (as defined under British law)."
This is a huge problem. The UK has very expansive hate and offensive speech net. Once a content creator banned elsewhere sees you are adhering to British law, they will be looking for the exists. Host this in the US or suffer for it. I'm not being hyperbolic here, and I am upvoting this before the 15 minute window for visibility.

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The videos, livestreams and livestream VOD's are not stored on servers in the United Kingdom.

So why adhere to UK law and not some other jurisdiction? That is not secondary to where they are stored in terms of your pitch supporting free speech. Given the current political climate, how is this not obvious?

Thoughts @brianoflondon?

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I've applied for a creator account for myself and I'll be evaluating it.

I'd love to find a good livestream alternative to Periscope and YouTube. I'm so pissed off with YouTube who send me emails almost every night placing all my Tommy Robinson videos into limited state.

Check out @vimm while you wait. If nothing else, simulcast when 3speak goes live!

I like the fact you actually work!

If this is true that it is hosted in the UK, then you are absolutely correct that hosting needs to be moved to another country pronto! The UK's laws on what is and isn't illegal are far to vague and broad, and would endanger the platform. The service needs to be moved to a country like Norway, Switzerland, or the US, in order to avoid government mandated censorship of legitimate topics.

Nothing for 3Speak is hosted on servers in the UK.

Excellent! Good to know!

How does UK law compel you? Are you HQ'd there? If you think hosting content outside of the UK absolves you of UK law, why have that in your FAQ?

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Thank you for your comment. Actually we have to update our FAQ to reflect the actual situation. Be assured that the content is not hosted directly in the United Kingdom but in several other locations close to the UK.

Edit: The FAQ page is now updated: https://3speak.online/intl/faq

Thanks for clarifying. Good to know. That was very alarming to read considering the UK is almost Orwellian in it's attempts to curb free speech. I've been following many related stories. Best of luck and looking forward to seeing where this goes!

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We always appreciate feedback. If you would like to stay in touch feel free to join our Discord server: https://discord.me/3speak

I will also add that a large number of already banned content creators are British.
@tommyrobinson (Currently on STEEM), Sargon of Akkad (Has a STEEM account), Milo Yiannopoulos, Count Dankula, Paul Joseph Watson... These are just off the top of my head.

Tommy Robinson is an ass. Seriously, a thug and an idiot. Your average Joe don't like him much in Britain.

Almost 40,000 people got out to vote for him. Those of us who have had access to the behind the scenes of his social media and direct comms channels for a few years also know a very different story of the level of public support (which most people will not express in public).

Idiot: he's one of the brightest people I know and work with on a daily basis. You might take a British class based approach to him because of his accent but the guy is seriously smart. If you know the signs, you can see it in his ability to process information and get points across while speaking off the cuff.

But I do love that so many of his enemies completely underestimate him. As for being a thug, he knows how to punch back. He's a lot more controlled than when he was a young kid and before he was a father but he's never going to take shit from anyone.

How convenient that most people will not express their support for him in public. Kinda makes it hard to quantify then.

And I certainly don't judge him based on class or accent given my background. Lol.

That has ZERO to do with the argument I am trying to make. How is your opinion of his character relevant?

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I like to chime in when someone not from the UK mentions him. It's my new thing. You will note I didn't respond to your argument merely to the addendum which mentioned dear Tommy.

Looks like joshman doesn't like the comment, but I was thinking this too haha and when I saw some people happy he was on Steem 🤦‍♀️

Yeah, I got that impression too :0D

I'm glad I'm not the only one! The frothing nethered joy of some on his arrival was quite alarming!!

Thank God my parents left the UK.

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Indeed, they were spared the rise of the likes of that Tommy and assorted racist thugs from the EDL.

Well, congrats on adding absolutely no value to the conversation.

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I beg to differ but such are the vagaries of free speech!

Ironically my first instinct was to downvote you. Luckily I don't succumb to my worst instincts. I just like to keep it topical.

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Lol, people often do resort to downvotes for things like that. That Wolfy one did, made me giggle.

Just wait till they're free though, awesomes! ;0D

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