SteemWorld blocked by some ISPs? TOR works. Locally running SteemWorld Version now available.

in steemworld •  13 days ago  (edited)

Update


As expected, my hoster says there is nothing wrong with the configuration and they tested accessing the site from different points worldwide without any issues. Hard to say why the ping is not going through from some locations, but it looks like it's being blocked by some ISPs.

@glenalbrethsen found an easy solution here by just using TOR, which circumvents any censorship. Maybe it's working, because it uses different routes and therefore the blocking ISP cannot know where the data came from and what the content is.

@cityofstars's solution or @pixelfan's one might also work for some of you. The question is, if that will just fix it temporarily.

Anyway, I've seen enough to say that there is something going wrong with today's ISPs and their newest 'Security Updates'. If that's a technical issue, it's one of the strangest I've ever seen. I'm no networking expert and maybe it relates to kind of a mask-mismatch, but I cannot check it from here.

Even if it looks like the issue is related to my hoster's recent 'Security Update', there is something to be considered:

There are people who were no longer able to access steemworld.org days before the update took place already.


For people who don't want to use TOR, I prepared a locally running version of SteemWorld that can be downloaded here:
https://steemworld-ws.org/download

Just download the zip, extract it and double click the 'steemworld.html' file to run it.

A few minor things still need to be done, but overall it should work on most systems already. The Currency Ticker may not work for blocked users, because it still makes use of the steemworld.org domain. I will change that in the coming days.

On Chromium-based browsers (Chrome, Brave) it's not possible to access the browser's local storage from a local HTML document, therefore the settings won't be stored permanently. In Settings is a 'Create Link' button, which can be used to create a Settings Link. That should also work for Chromium users.

I hope this helps. There is always an option ;)

Thank you for supporting my work!


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Thanks man! That saves me a bit time and I don't need to use my dedicated server for hosting the site itself. Never tried to use the local version in that way, but seems to work great :)

I registered a new hosting server with a different provider, copied everything to over there and started the domain transfer (was registered with my old hoster).

They say, it can take 1-5 business days until the transfer will be done, so steemworld.org should be reachable again on monday/tuesday. I can't setup the SSL certificate prior to that, but everything else is ready to go.

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Sorry to see you’ve stopped following me. Is it because I’m boring or haven’t upvotes you enough. I appreciate your Steemworld service and try to upvote regularly.

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Sorry, I need to clean my feed a bit, because I realized that I'm following too many people, who don't share the same interests I do and my focus is getting distracted from the for me essential things way too much. In your case it was a mistake though ;)

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Thanks. You are now on my autovoter so I don't forget.

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Fantastic! I've missed SteemWorld as it doesn't work on the largest ISP in the UK (BT) any more.
I'll use this from now on! Thank you!

Steemworld rocks

Lieber Chiller,

was ich sehr seltsam finde:

  1. Wenn ich in deiner SteemWorld unter Account Operations den Permlink zu einem Kommentar anklicke, wird dieser problemlos geöffnet.

  2. Wenn ich den selben Kommentar unter Posts / Replies öffnen möchte, kommt diese Meldung: "Sorry! This page doesn't exist."

Beispiel:

geöffneter Kommentar zu 1)
https://steemit.com/deutsch/@vieanna/pspqzd

Öffnungsversuch zu 2)
https://steemit.com/deutsch?account=vieanna/pspqzd

Ich kenne mich auf diesem Gebiet ja null aus, aber es sieht für mich nach einem kleinen Fehler aus.

Ich benutze Google-Chrome.

Vielen Dank für deine ganzen Bemühungen!

Liebe Grüße, @double-u

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Vielen Dank für den Hinweis @double-u! Wäre auch zu schön gewesen, wenn ich bei meinem gestrigen Umbau für die lokale Version in der Eile nichts kaputt gemacht hätte... ^^

Sollte jetzt wieder laufen ;)
LG, Chiller

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Super, danke, geht wieder! LG

(Man muss sich nur trauen, dir so was zu nennen ...) ;-)

did you change IPs during this maintenance? I highly doubt SteemWorld would be blocked and sounds more like a malicious site once owned this IP. If you didn’t change IP then very weird.

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I use that server mainly for hosting static files and the Ticker API, which both don't need a very powerful machine, therefore it's no dedicated one. Maybe there has been somebody hosting malicious content via that IP. Sounds like a good explanation to me.

Anyway, I will move the static files to a different location soon. I don't want to use my dedicated server for all things, but will see.

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If it is a shared machine, then that is most likely your problem. One of the sites on that host likely is stealing content or displaying stuff that is illegal and was banned, you are getting sucked into it because of a shared IP.

I would recommend asking your host to change your server/IP and should fix it right away.

I really doubt anyone would block SteemWorld specifically.

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I would recommend asking your host to change your server/IP

I contacted them again and they don't want to move me to a different server. They are telling me to contact all those ISPs myself to get the banned IP removed. No way. That's really weird.

I need to move to a different provider and I think it would be a good idea not to host in Germany anymore or at least find a more professional hoster.

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I've kept quiet, but have been reading and certain facts are too obvious to be ignored.

If your own ISP is trying to blame ISPs all over the world, who have no reason for blocking your site, which is only a utility made to serve a limited number of people, then I would say they are being arrogant and it is time you look after your own interests and find a new ISP.

btw - last week Saturday I collapsed on my bed and slept through till Tuesday night, with maybe a few minutes of being awake to visit the bathroom. I just could not keep my eyes open. Then, just as some energy returned...I got hit by high temperature and spent 20 hours shivering violently. Then, as that receded, I started violent coughing - and all this without eating or drinking anything more than a tot of hot water, half a lemon (juice) and a tsp of real honey. Luckily I had lots of milk and once I could, I drank that like water. I think this must be the first time in 50 years that I've spent 8 days without even one cup of coffee!!

In the middle of all this, I tried coming on line, saw I could not access steemworld and tried to find an answer, but, honestly, I was too dazed and out of it.

I tried changing OS to something newer. Nope, did not work. Burnt a DVD with Mint Linux and ran it, but it could not open your site.

In the end, I came here, saw your suggestion re Tor and now it stays open but minimised.

I knew you would find a solution, but I felt I had to write because those tech idiots at ISPs who do not really care, are always quick to blame the customer ...and I did not want you to fall for their tricks.

Thanks for always being there to keep steemworld going.

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They should fix it for you. It is their problem not yours. If they won’t, then I would recommend moving ASAP.

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I would move to berlin, STRATO, best data center there is.

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STRATO is good, but they have a weird pricing structure (5 domains incl. but only 1 SSL certificate free. As if SSL would be something special). If I should stay in Germany, I think I would go with HETZNER.

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Good choice, go for it!!!

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Feel free to hit me up on Steem.chat or Discord if you need a hand

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Agree, have had this issue before, where one rogue site on a shared server ruins access for all the others. I mentioned in the previous post that I tried to access 3 or 4 other domain names on your server and none of them could be accessed.

As of today, could access steemworld from work, but then not from home :-( TOR works OK, tho took a 2nd attempt.

Loading...

One of my providers can't reach it.
Last hop responding: 212.224.102.133
Destination should be the next one but is not responding.

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Same.

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My IP is one of the ones banned. I'm using Xfinity ISP near the Bay Area.

I was easily able to access the site using a free VPN called TunnelBear.
Already had it on my computer from when I was trying to buy EOS ICO ERC-20 tokens.

I've been using TOR since yesterday; up until the update this week, Steemworld worked fine. I haven't noticed any change in functionality when using TOR, but starting a computer from an incorruptible DVD is a bit of a hassle.

As always, thanks for a great site and keeping us informed. Cheers!

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If you are only using Tor for accessing steemworld, then why not run it as a 2nd browser by installing it on your hard drive? Are you really worried about someone seeing your steemit account details? Anyone can do that anyway

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Hi Arthur, no I'm not worried about anyone seeing my I'net activities, you wouldn't be reading any comments from me if I was that paranoid. After Steemworld had it's update, it came back for about 20 minutes and then shut down permanently. I asked a few others if that was the same for them, and when they answered they were not having any issues, it dawned on me that my IP might be blocked. To test that theory I made a TAILS DVD and was able to access Steemworld as per normal.

Since I don't really have a need for TAILS or TOR at this time, rather than installing TOR or TAILS, I'm using Steemworld's html file instead. This has worked fine so far.

(When needed, I run TAILS/TOR from a DVD because the DVD can not be corrupted once burned, it's like having a fresh install every time you start up. Doing it that way is very secure, but since much of the OS has to run from RAM, it takes a lot longer to boot up, so it's not really convenient. I use TAILS as a live OS when checking out old computers, running it usually tells me right away if I'm dealing with hardware or Windows issues)

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tells me right away if I'm dealing with hardware or Windows issues

I've used tails etc, but never knew it could be used for identifying problems.

How about a post teaching others also?

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I have in the past written posts on how to run machines without so much as a hard drive, but found very little interest.

Maybe next time I rework an old machine, I'll document the entire process.

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I wish there were a bulletin board, where, under various categories of interest, we could learn about posts of interest. Looking at the feed is not effective, there are too many posts per day for anyone to discover more than one gem now and then.

Thanks.

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I agree, but with the current set up I'm not sure how to fix that. There is a diytube channel here on Steemit, but it faces the same issue: who knows it exists, and can it find the content it wants to bring to the forefront?

I had hoped Steemit would address this with the community and point out the limitations we'd face in correcting this issue, and make this a more effective publishing platform. I guess we wait.. Have a good one.

ISP Telekom and 1und1 also don't work.
Mobile internet with T-mobile works fine.

Telekom is updating many things here at the moment, maybe this can cause something.

In New York my dedicated line cannot access, but my mobile provider is not blocking.
The local version runs fine for me.
Thank you for the update and your hard work @steemchiller, Steemworld is an amazing tool, and many of us depend on it for various uses.
I feel like calling my ISP and raising hell, but I'm just gonna chill and wait for an update for now. lol
Is it safe to transact through the local version?

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Is it safe to transact through the local version?

I'm using it myself ;) There is not much of a difference in the local version. Transactions are being signed locally as it is the case for the online version and KeyChain should also work.

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Thank you for your response Steemchiller.

I thought this was the case, as this is how I understand keychain to work, but I don't like to assume if I'm not 100% sure.

I'm very curious to know what is causing this. I'll be watching for future details.

Best wishes getting this worked out, and I hope stress is minimal.

Take care :)

I also get no connection.

I think you should switch providers.

Man!!
i was looking for the open source of your project, if one day something happened to your website then we have a the copy of it in our machines

thank you @steemchiller for your efforts, it's my best tool to manage my account ever ;)

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if one day something happened to your website then we have a the copy of it in our machines

Yes, that was the most important step for me. Now I will register a new server and move SteemWorld to that one.

Currently the zip file only contains the minified version of the code, but I consider adding the full source in future (or provide it on GitHub).

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well github is a great place to do that, you could put it there and modify it when you release new updates

I still wasn't able to connect to SteemWorld via my regular Chrome browser, even after clearing both browser and machine DNS caches on multiple devices from different locations... so I'm guessing it's related to my service provider (same at home and at my place of work).

Anyway, using @glenalbrethsen's fix — installing the TOR browser — does the trick, so I'm going to just work with that for a while.

ISP UPC Austria no problem.

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here Italy no problem
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Another Italy having no problem!

Hey, SteemWorld funktioniert bei mir seit gestern Abend nicht mehr bzw. ist nicht erreichbar.

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Vermutlich hat dein lokaler DNS noch nicht auf die neue IP aktualisiert. Normalerweise sollte das innerhalb eines Tages der Fall sein. Bekommst du eine SSL-Sicherheitswarnung oder funktioniert es inzwischen wieder?

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Inzwischen funktioniert es meistens. Eine Sicherheitswarnung kam bisher nie. Vielen Dank für die Rückmeldung 👍

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I put together my monthly stats and used SteemWorld intensively yesterday. No problem for me.

But I agree with @themarkymark, on a shared server it's possible to happen something like this without SW being the target of the ban.

Haven’t had a problem but can’t live without it so great that there are alternatives! Maybe a mobile app will be a great development to consider as well!

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Thankfully I have not had any issues with using steemworld.org, but I know how lost I would be on steemit without the site so definitely resteeming for others affected.

Nice work! More to do every day.

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Oh! I couldn’t access your website for a few days now! Hope everything will be up and running soon!

Good luck.

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I moved everything to a new server and it should be working now, but maybe your local DNS didn't update to the new IP yet. From which country do you access the site?

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Thank you very much. I have just checked the web, I can see it now!! I am sitting in Bangkok, Thailand. Are you thinking of going to Steem Fest?
I hope all will be well from now on!

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thumbsup Everything is working again. Thx....

Works in the UAE 🇦🇪 on Chrome & Safari. @SteemChiller
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Decided to try mobile data, got this:

That is the right URL, right?

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Today (after a very long waiting period) the domain has finally been transferred to my new hoster. As you are able to see the login for the admin panel, the correct IP is already reachable from your device. I added the SSL certificates a few hours ago and the site should already be available for most devices.

I still get the SSL warning when I visit SteemWorld from my location, but that's because my local DNS didn't refresh (update to the new IP) yet. When I change my local DNS settings manually (by editing /etc/hosts) it's working.

If it should still not work on your device, just give it a bit more time or (if you can) edit/refresh your local DNS cache ;)

Awesome, thanks for sharing the source.

There's a current issue with the HSTS certificate which is valid for your host's server but not for steemworld.org.
Did your provider reboot the server accidentally? ;o)
It worked still less than an hour ago.

Every platform has a drawback but its not the issue, isp may be now fact but we are confident about that its no longer stay as there is a upgrading is running and hopefully alternative solution is in our hand, thank you for your hard working and being letting us know.

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Thank goodness SteemWorld is not blocked by my work place. I am curious, will TOR work to allow other DApps through such as SteemMonsters or Drug Wars?

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Es läuft wieder!!

It works again.

Danke.

blocked on mine.
Please make some changes.

Steem world.org is a great tool and we all wish it continue going and moving forward

Hallo @steemchiller, vielleicht hilft Dir diese Netzwerkanalyse.
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your tool is perfect wow i help you i know idont have power or steem but i help you i love your tool.

Hi again, just an update here. TOR now tells me to enable javascript, when it worked fine without it, then it says that "error while calling 'get_account_count' occurred."

For now am using your local version.

Many years ago had a case where someone was able to hack across domains hosted on the same server. That demand for javascript looks odd, unless you've added it yourself.

I'm sure this all seems like grief, but I'm sure everyone here supports your work.

It seems to me that your hoster blocks proxy-ip

I have 3 providers and only one doesn't allow access to steemworld

Also you can try to access to, for example, http://www.ecopayz.com/

If you see like this then you use proxy-ip

Firefox meint:

Gute Arbeit! 👍