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RE: PROPOSAL - How to DEFINE and FIGHT the BAD - Create a COMMITTEE with STRONG ARM to Support Creation of a GREAT STEEMIT CULTURE
Very interesting! I also at the beginning of the HF 19 voted many of my comments... I was so amaze to see my votes giving more than just 1 cent :) But I stopped that soon, as you well say it did not felt good. Btw do you know about the new voting Bot in Steemit? @promoted. Really nice idea and have a lot to do with some case you have in your post. You did not mention him so I leave a link. "Don't use vote-selling bots: use @promoted instead. A bot that upvotes you when you burn money!"
Upped and re-steemed
Love this !!!
Not sure if I love all the 3rd party self-curation services.
I wish my sarcasm would be heard !!!! How many more we pay for or will be offered. Who actually cares about content these days?
Still some :)
I count 6 people in this comment string.
I mentioned that my "I love this" needs to be explained more. More like "yeah right, finally we don't have to pay to get votes. My sarcasm doesn't get through and my mistake. I don't like what's happening right now on this platform but I don't know how it can get better to be honest. Too many changes already and this time it's me being frustrated. I remember you had similar feelings before.
As far as I understand, @promoted still needs to be paid to get their upvote, the difference with the other 'whale' vote services is that @promoted does not keep the SBD, but burns them.
I think when we get a community wide system in place were we can vote for what we want to see or what we do not want, and we get a community wide enforcement team in place, we can save the platform and community.
We may all have these days, and I still have them from time to time. I try to turn things into a positive. My secret to that was: stay away from Steemit for a week. I went to visit my parents knowing they did not have Wifi on their boat and the cell phone network was just to expensive to use :)
I burnt 11 SBD ....it felt great !
Thank you for your comment and appreciation of the post. I wasn't aware of @promoted. Will need to check it out in more details, it claims to not make profit, but in the end it is still self-curation. Self-Curation can do more harm to the community then good, in the long run IMHO. BUT, this service may be better than all the commercial services in the sense that it takes the SBD of the market, increasing the value of SBD (but that is pure theoretical, since when the amount of SBD taken of the market is very small, than it may not have substantial impact).
Of course it does :), they say they take the rewards for curation. About the self-promotion, it is discutible but I prefer this way than the other one. As far as I understand human behavior you will need to complete ban self-promotion to take it out of the system but that would be kind of "dictatorial", I do not know how good will be for Steemit and what advocate.
As you well say take money out of the system, now of course, very small quantities but I know the other 2 whales are been used a lot in a daily bases so, imagine the same number of people using @promoted only... how much would be out of the system them?
If it has to exist I prefer it to be like this. :)
I'm not against self voting. I prefer Whales and all the other fishes we have in our community to delegating their SP to good curators. Like @curie project. But we need more than just @curie for the good posts and comments to be noticed. If we have many good curators supported by SP from the community, will give more good rewards to quality posts and that shall drive creation of more quality posts. At the same time, we shall stop delegating our SP to the self curation services. But yeh, everything what is possible, is essentially allowed. But that is what I'm debating, we shall introduce soft rules, rules that are not (possible to) manage by technology.
I was wondering about curations. I have enough free time to be a curator and have some ideas, mostly around the Photography topic (lot of nice and undiscovered photos on Steemit actually). Was looking for a post that explain how it is the question of Delegate SP and who I should ask for it and explain my idea but.. as far as I see you can just rent the SP (you have to pay) or to know someone with a lot of SP (a whale) who give you some for free but it is not my case. There is no way to do it, only paying or if you are "connected" in some way.
Edit: I believe that getting rewards from rewarding others is more gratifying than rewarding yourself ;)
That is how it works in this world. Networking is the key here. But maybe just ask? The other day I was chatting at Steemit.Chat and some whale told me that he would give his SP in delegation for a committee to fight the bad on Steemit when done in a correct way.
To get SP for curating, well you need to establish yourself as a quality curator, than I;m sure you will find members who either delegate SP to you or configure some vote bot to follow your votes with their votes.
I'm of the same opinion!
New found! A bot for comments, up-vote you if you had not up-voted yourself ;)
https://steemit.com/introduceyourself/@gentlebot/hello-steemit-i-m-the-gentlebot
I found that one as well. There is another one from the same user, check latest post on @gentlebot. I noticed one post, @gentelbot voted for a lot of the comments. Not sure what independent algorithm this bot is running, but that does not seem to independent from account or even post. But this maybe just a glitch and startup problems. I hope so, otherwise this is another scam starting.