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RE: Let's raise the bar on Steemit in 2017!

in #steemit7 years ago

If you already said you don't like porn why say it again?
Is the NSFW filter not working for you?

They take away even other people's votes

Can you clarify this? How can they manipulate votes?

So you don't like people writing for a certain audience? It's the same way everywhere else on the internet, even if just for likes that are worth nothing, people are still trying to get as much attention from everyone as they can and it shows on the subjects they choose.

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A flag takes away a vote and money, and she has been flagged for stating an opinion somebody disagreed with, if memory serves.

A flag apparently is also a redistribution mechanism equal to the opposite of an upvote. If she thinks porn shouldn't make as much then she can flag porn to take the rewards the publisher would have gotten with her singular upvote and give it back to the pool.

If someone doesn't think she should make a lot from complaining about content diversity then there's nothing we can do to keep them from expressing that at the expense of what could have been curation rewards for the voter had they granted a positive vote instead.

A flag doesn't take away any votes, it can take away rewards, but she can still see how many people agree or disagree with her. People can still resteem her content and comment. And not until the post goes bellow $0.00 will it hide when flagged.

The trouble with this is the common perception of a flag is that it is calling "abuse" and so people feel like they've been slapped. Whales who flag seem to be clueless about how an emotion reaction to a flag impacts user retention.

I think we need to completely reform the voting system to try to remove the stigma of a flag and create a way the rewards can be distributed fairly without users feeling like they lost money (that really doesn't belong to them until after the payout).

Still under debate, that usage of flags, I think. It does work as described, though.

I think you totally missed my point about equality of voting@tommycordero. For example there are now two posts one with 123 votes worth $23.00 and one with 129 votes (mine) worth $0.07. Even the people voting are of similarly worth, similar people....so why the discrepancy?

Read about down voting by Whales:
https://steemit.com/steemit/@razorwave8/steemit-down-vote-should-be-done-away-with-proof-is-in-the-numbers

No, you think I missed your point on purpose when I have real questions.

When you tell me that whales can take away other people's votes that is reason to be alarmed, that's why I am asking for clarification.

I'm trying to find out how you would have problems staying away from porn on Steemit now that we have the filters, I am trying to figure out whether it's that you don't want anyone to have access to porn from Steemit because you not seeing the porn is not enough. These people exist, the people that want to go on diets and want to take everyone else with them. I'm trying to make sure this is not what's happening here.

I get it, you think that you're not making as much because you've pronounced yourself against porn, I'm just trying to figure out how you came to think this was the reason and whether there is anything to back it up. You can think whatever you want, I don't care, but I do want to make sure I am not gonna get screwed later on and that starts by making sure you are not getting screwed now.

Read about down voting by Whales:
https://steemit.com/steemit/@razorwave8/steemit-down-vote-should-be-done-away-with-proof-is-in-the-numbers
Facebook bans porn and so should Steemit ban smut.
And my point was that we should not be thinking about getting screwed and having to suck up or watch everything we post, because then it is a stupid site...

Let's see if I get this straight...you don't want to have to worry about what you post but you want others to worry about what is posted so they can ban accordingly, just like Facebook does, which is fine just as long as they are not banning you. Am I missing anything?

To you porn may be dirty but to others people trying to censor others is dirty. I used to be very opposed to flagging when I didn't know how it works. I don't see a problem with accounts being worth more than others, if you are investing thousands of dollars then you should have more control over the investment than someone who invested 1 dollar.

@tommycordero...Yes, you have missed just about everything....

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