@tipU Delegations Profitability Check: 17.10.2018

in steemit •  4 months ago
All right, it seems that the dust after the HF20 deployment has finally settled down - it's time to check @tipU SP delegations profitability and how it compares to other services.

For comparision we'll be using the new website: steem apr which was build using https://www.steemdesk.com as a foundation.

The website displays investment returns for a single user @wefund - who delegated his STEEM POWER to many different services so it's a great way to compare the profit coming from those delegations.


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You can see that @tipU presents solid performance with #2 spot but the #1 - @estabond is unbeatable here with 181% APR :D It's a small bidding bot with about 2k SP + few small delegations.

Now, as I understand, what's happening here is that @estabond sends his own profit, coming from his 2k SP, to delegators - which really boosts the profitability for delegators. It's a really good service to delegate few SP but remember that with every new delegation, the profit from those 2k SP will be watered down and the APR will drop.

Aside from that I really like the fact that @tipu is still in the top in terms of profitability. Also notice very solid performance from @smartsteem which seems to got better after HF20.

If you guys have any questions please let me know in the comments :) See you next time!
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Yesterday 2000.0 STEEM POWER delegated or invested gave payout of:
0.486 SBD + 0.34 STEEM (0.76 USD), APR: 17.07% .

Delegation link: steemconnect 2000.0 SP delegation to @tipu.

Please note the profit depends on STEEM price. The higher the STEEM price, the more SBD profit is being generated.

Sorry @Cardboard I did not mean to hurt you on the Battlefield of SteemMonsters................

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Haha, fighting talk there

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Haha :D Twice in a row! Those gold cards...

Once I reach a decent amount of Steem Power, I will definitely consider delegating some of it to tipu.

Who doesn't love passive income? :D

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You can also use @tipU to invest - which works kinda like a investment fund. Just send SBD or STEEM to @tipU with memo: invest which will be treated as sp delegation.
If you want your money back, just send 0.001 SBD to @tipU with memo: refund

Please feel free to test it, more info should appear below in a moment: @tipu help

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The invest guide is outdated though :) the SBD and STEEM that you send are no longer converted to actual STEEM POWER so you can always refund it without need to wait (for power down).

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@cardboard is there a maximum to invest?

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Yep, currently @tipu has 3k SP to spare which means that max 6k STEEM/SBD can be invested.

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Okay! :) and where can I find the overview of how many steem or sbd I have currently invested, if there is an overview? :)

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Sure, you can send 0.001 SBD to @tipU with memo: status or write a comment: @tipu status

@tipu profit for 80sp

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Yesterday 1000 STEEM POWER delegated or invested gave payout of:
0.156 SBD + 0.328 STEEM (0.43 USD), APR: 18.89% .

Delegation link: steemconnect 1000 SP delegation to @tipu.

Please note the profit depends on STEEM price. The higher the STEEM price, the more SBD profit is being generated.

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Yesterday 1000.0 STEEM POWER delegated or invested gave payout of:
0.324 SBD + 0.208 STEEM (0.48 USD), APR: 21.98% .

Delegation link: steemconnect 1000.0 SP delegation to @tipu.

Please note the profit depends on STEEM price. The higher the STEEM price, the more SBD profit is being generated.

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@full-measure, This APR % is not true, I saw @zoef (2000 SP delegated to TipU) got an return with: 0.546 SBD(=0.666 STEEM) + 0.221 STEEM = 0.887 -> (0.887 x 365)/2000 = 0.1618 -> ARP: = 16.18%

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The APR listed on the website is an average from 20 (or more) last days.
Daily APR varies, sometimes it's 16%, sometimes it's 22% - depending on the day.

Edit - oh, you're not referring to the website. Give me a sec.

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everyone know that we got a good APR% from most of bots in couple weeks ago, up to 25% + but APR % now is at around 16%. The upvote rate has been dropping lower and lower, can be sometime 16% and sometime 22% now.

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2 days ago @tipU had a good day ;) And in fact it was 22% if you measure the profit generated between 00:00 and 00:00

Let's try this:

  1. Random user pays 1 SBD for vote.
  2. User A receives his daily payout - for him, during this day, 1 SBD profit was generated.
  3. 5 minutes later another random user pays 50 SBD for upvote.
  4. User B receives his daily payout - for him, during this day, 51 SBD profit was generated.

Even though user B received his payout only five minutes after user A, his profit and APR was far better than user A - for this day.

Which APR for this day is right?

Of course user A will receive the profit from 50 SBD vote in the next payout - next day.

As for the other bots - for the love of God, just click it ;) https://www.steemprofit.info/

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That means some day will eat part profit of the previous or the next day, but the overall 3 days profit is remaining the same in average. Are you giving the flat rate 10% to the bidders and there is no overbid with @TipU right?

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Well, if the situation with user A and B happens on the 3rd day, the 3-day average will still be slightly different and it will need another day to balance itself out. As for the second question, you probably noticed the answer in second comment :)

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Hope this helps.

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17 minutes ago is not yesterday! Not in @tipu time zone at least ;) You can check yesterday`s transfer to @zoef.

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0.523 SBD (0.638 STEEM) + 0.404 STEEM = 1.042 STEEM -> (1.042 * 365) / 2000 = 19%
It's a little lower because the reported one is calculated for profit that comes between 00:00 and 00:00 next day.

@zoef payout might came from profit that was generated, for example, between 09:00 and 09:00 next day so part of the higher profit was paid day ealier. And in fact you can see, that 2 days ago @zeof payout was even higher (0.672 SBD and 0.432 STEEM -> 1.252 STEEM -> APR 22,8%)

It's best to take an avarage from several days - this can be done here: https://www.steemprofit.info

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I got your point but 22% to 19% in couple hours?? So I hope that the system will give the right APR % for today!

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There is no true APR - it depends on the user. Every user receives payout at slightly different time which means that yesterday's APR is slightly different for each user. But when you sum up the last few days, it will be the same for every user.

The listed APR in @tipU comment is just a statistic. If you would delegate at preceisly 00:00 - the listed APR is the same as yours. But if you delegated at 01:00 it will be slightly different because other vote requests generated your profit.

Here's the thing: the APR can be calculated for one specific time frame - up to a single point (00:00). But @tipU can't send payouts to 400 users at this same, single moment.

Once again - it's a lot more informative to take the average from several days at https://www.steemprofit.info

I will add this link to @tipU profit comment.

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I see you have edited the comment - once again, I do not calculate APR for every user separately (the "right" APR).

When someone asks @tipu for profit for 1000 SP or any other number - it has to be calculated based on total tipU profit, not on a single user - because which one I would use?

And 22% to 19% could be in 12 hour or more. This 3% difference is around 50 STEEM in total @tipu profit. One higher vote request.

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Ah, I did not know that you reply that fast but overall, wish you the best. All cleared to me that everything is just in "estimation" Thanks for the reply!
Btw, do you still give 10% upvote profit to the bidders?

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Thank you for the wishes :)

As for bidders - it's more like payers, because @tipU is not a bidding bot.
The upvote ROI depends on demand/supply of the upvotes and ranges between 0% and +20% (so no negative ROI like some bidding bots).

Current upvote return can be checked at any time and @tipu profile page.

Best of luck!

@tipu profit for 3600 steem

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Yesterday 3600.0 STEEM POWER delegated or invested gave payout of:
0.56 SBD + 1.18 STEEM (1.55 USD), APR: 18.87% .

Delegation link: steemconnect 3600.0 SP delegation to @tipu.

Please note the profit depends on STEEM price. The higher the STEEM price, the more SBD profit is being generated.

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@tipu profit for 3600 steem

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Yesterday 3600.0 STEEM POWER delegated or invested gave payout of:
0.83 SBD + 0.384 STEEM (1.12 USD), APR: 14.34% .

Delegation link: steemconnect 3600.0 SP delegation to @tipu.

Please note that the listed APR is calculated for profit generated between 00:00 yesterday and 00:00 today - your profit can be slightly different (depending on the payout time).

Check out https://www.steemprofit.info to compare @tipU with other services.

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@tipu profit for 3850 steem

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Yesterday 3850.0 STEEM POWER delegated or invested gave payout of:
0.776 SBD + 0.599 STEEM (1.23 USD), APR: 14.93% .

Delegation link: steemconnect 3850.0 SP delegation to @tipu.

Please note that the listed APR is calculated for profit generated between 00:00 yesterday and 00:00 today - your profit can be slightly different (depending on the payout time).

Check out https://www.steemprofit.info to compare @tipU with other services.

@tipu profit for 80sp

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Yesterday 1000 STEEM POWER delegated or invested gave payout of:
0.156 SBD + 0.328 STEEM (0.43 USD), APR: 18.87% .

Delegation link: steemconnect 1000 SP delegation to @tipu.

Please note the profit depends on STEEM price. The higher the STEEM price, the more SBD profit is being generated.

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Hi @olimiesma! Here is your @tipU service user data:

  • delegation status: 1001.0 STEEM POWER delegated
  • deposit status: 0 STEEM and 0 SBD -> 0 STEEM POWER invested
  • pending payout: 0.005 SBD + 0.007 STEEM, next scheduled payout in: 22.5 hours
  • total @tipU STEEM POWER: 1950528 | Your share: 0.0513% | Your reinvest ratio: 0%
  • Your payouts are send in both STEEM and SBD every 24 hours
  • voting status: active, profit will be increased with each vote :)
  • profitability yesterday: 0.097 SBD + 0.32 STEEM (0.18 USD) per 1k SP delegated or invested, APR: 22.52% | average profitability last month

Looks like a great return @tipu. Keep up the good work!

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@tipu profit for 1500sp

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Yesterday 1000 STEEM POWER delegated or invested gave payout of:
0.156 SBD + 0.328 STEEM (0.43 USD), APR: 18.93% .

Delegation link: steemconnect 1000 SP delegation to @tipu.

Please note the profit depends on STEEM price. The higher the STEEM price, the more SBD profit is being generated.

@tipu profit for 1500 sp

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Yesterday 1500.0 STEEM POWER delegated or invested gave payout of:
0.233 SBD + 0.492 STEEM (0.65 USD), APR: 18.93% .

Delegation link: steemconnect 1500.0 SP delegation to @tipu.

Please note the profit depends on STEEM price. The higher the STEEM price, the more SBD profit is being generated.

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Hi @loso! Here is your @tipU service user data:

  • deposit for sending tips and @tipU upvotes: 0 SBD
  • delegation status: 80.0 STEEM POWER delegated
  • investment status: 0 STEEM POWER invested: 0 STEEM and 0 SBD
  • pending payout: 0.025 SBD + 0.003 STEEM, next scheduled payout in: 5.8 hours
  • total @tipU STEEM POWER: 1103601 | Your share: 0.0072% | Your reinvest ratio: 0%
  • Your payouts are send in STEEM every 29 hours
  • voting status: active, profit will be increased with each vote :)
  • profitability: 0.317 SBD + 0.218 STEEM (0.48 USD) per 1k SP delegated or invested, APR: 22.3% (data from yesterday)

I want to delegate 100 SP to @tipu

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Hi @blog-beginner! Special squad of highly trained hamsters prepared this delegation link for you:
steemconnect 100.0 SP delegation to @tipu.

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Hi @blog-beginner! Here is your @tipU service user data:

  • deposit for sending tips and @tipU upvotes: 0 SBD
  • delegation status: 100.0 STEEM POWER delegated
  • investment status: 0 STEEM POWER invested: 0 STEEM and 0 SBD
  • pending payout: 0 SBD + 0.002 STEEM, next scheduled payout in: 23.9 hours
  • total @tipU STEEM POWER: 1107091 | Your share: 0.009% | Your reinvest ratio: 0%
  • Your payouts are send in both STEEM and SBD every 24 hours
  • voting status: active, profit will be increased with each vote :)
  • profitability: 0.236 SBD + 0.12 STEEM (0.32 USD) per 1k SP delegated or invested, APR: 15.04% (data from yesterday)

delegate 15 SP to @fuadsm

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Hi @ucukertz! Special squad of highly trained hamsters prepared this delegation link for you:
steemconnect 15.0 SP delegation to @fuadsm.

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Hi @senorcoconut! Here is your @tipU service user data:

  • deposit for sending tips and @tipU upvotes: 0 SBD
  • delegation status: 20.0 STEEM POWER delegated
  • investment status: 1.372 STEEM POWER invested: 0.47 STEEM and 1.084 SBD
  • pending payout: 0.004 SBD + 0.003 STEEM, next scheduled payout in: 13.2 hours
  • total @tipU STEEM POWER: 1113216 | Your share: 0.0019% | Your reinvest ratio: 100%
  • Your payouts are send in both STEEM and SBD every 24 hours
  • voting status: recovering voting power, voting will start in 3 hours
  • profitability: 0.265 SBD + 0.157 STEEM (0.38 USD) per 1k SP delegated or invested, APR: 17.5% (data from yesterday)

@tipu I send you many times refunding request If you kindly check your activity page and fix the issue I will be glad. I am pretty happy with the upvoting system, hope it continues like that.

By the way a calculation tool would be nice for delagation comebacks as smartsteem does.

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Aye, for now you can use comments like this: @tipu profit for 400 sp

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Yesterday 400.0 STEEM POWER delegated or invested gave payout of:
0.062 SBD + 0.131 STEEM (0.17 USD), APR: 19.02% .

Delegation link: steemconnect 400.0 SP delegation to @tipu.

Please note the profit depends on STEEM price. The higher the STEEM price, the more SBD profit is being generated.

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Thanks for the information @cardboard. I guess everything works with bots in tipu :) Any comment line suggestion for refunding request? cause I cant get response. I requested two times acidentally for upvoting the same post. Cant get the refund even I send back 0.001 sbd with memo of my post.

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As for the refund - did you made an investment to @tipu? If not, please try "withdraw" command. Of course I will check it out.

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No not yet cause my SP not enough for now. Maybe in near future. I use the upvote service. I send back 0.001 sbd as it is described with a withdraw comment but maybe I should not add the explanations of the issue or my post link together.

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No need, I will handle this :)

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OK, done.

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Thank you @tipu soon I will send it back :)

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Hi @waphilip! Here is your @tipU service user data:

  • deposit for sending tips and @tipU upvotes: 0 SBD
  • delegation status: 1246.767 STEEM POWER delegated
  • investment status: 792.89 STEEM POWER invested: 1585.78 STEEM and 0 SBD
  • pending payout: 0.009 SBD + 0.001 STEEM, next scheduled payout in: 22.6 hours
  • total @tipU STEEM POWER: 1114850 | Your share: 0.183% | Your reinvest ratio: 0%
  • Your payouts are send in both STEEM and SBD every 24 hours
  • voting status: active, profit will be increased with each vote :)
  • profitability: 0.324 SBD + 0.208 STEEM (0.49 USD) per 1k SP delegated or invested, APR: 21.96% (data from yesterday)

@tipu profit for 5141.347 sp

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Yesterday 5141.347 STEEM POWER delegated or invested gave payout of:
1.663 SBD + 1.07 STEEM (2.48 USD), APR: 21.93% .

Delegation link: steemconnect 5141.347 SP delegation to @tipu.

Please note the profit depends on STEEM price. The higher the STEEM price, the more SBD profit is being generated.

If I want to use @tipu to give someone an upvote, but @tipu is recovering, and I know I'll be asleep when it's done recovering, is there any command I can give to have it just give the upvote when it wakes up?

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Nope, it would require making a queue. There was a bot that had a queue at it took 4 days to make the upvote ;)

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Good heavens

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Tell me about investing steem and sbd @cardboard. How does it works?

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I'll update the guide soon :) just send at least 0.1 SBD/STEEM to @tipu with memo: invest

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Hi @cardboard have u updated the guide?

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Not yet, so little time :( Maybe I can answer some questions here?

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Whats the return for 100-300 steem ? Whats the percentage like?

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300 STEEM invested = 150 SP delegated (50%)

@tipu profit for 150 sp

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Yesterday 150.0 STEEM POWER delegated or invested gave payout of:
0.048 SBD + 0.033 STEEM (0.07 USD), APR: 22.11% .

Delegation link: steemconnect 150.0 SP delegation to @tipu.

Please note the profit depends on STEEM price. The higher the STEEM price, the more SBD profit is being generated.

@tipu profit for 110 sp

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Yesterday 110.0 STEEM POWER delegated or invested gave payout of:
0.027 SBD + 0.019 STEEM (0.04 USD), APR: 17.01% .

Delegation link: steemconnect 110.0 SP delegation to @tipu.

Please note the profit depends on STEEM price. The higher the STEEM price, the more SBD profit is being generated.

I want to delegate 40 SP to @tipu

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Hi @georgeknowsall! Special squad of highly trained hamsters prepared this delegation link for you:
steemconnect 40.0 SP delegation to @tipu.

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@tipu profit for 40 sp

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Yesterday 40.0 STEEM POWER delegated or invested gave payout of:
0.01 SBD + 0.007 STEEM (0.01 USD), APR: 17.03% .

Delegation link: steemconnect 40.0 SP delegation to @tipu.

Please note the profit depends on STEEM price. The higher the STEEM price, the more SBD profit is being generated.

@tipu profit for 70 sp

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Yesterday 70.0 STEEM POWER delegated or invested gave payout of:
0.011 SBD + 0.023 STEEM (0.03 USD), APR: 18.87% .

Delegation link: steemconnect 70.0 SP delegation to @tipu.

Please note the profit depends on STEEM price. The higher the STEEM price, the more SBD profit is being generated.

@Tipu profit for 16000 SP

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Yesterday 16000.0 STEEM POWER delegated or invested gave payout of:
4.531 SBD + 2.373 STEEM (6.31 USD), APR: 18.09% .

Delegation link: steemconnect 16000.0 SP delegation to @tipu.

Please note that the listed APR is calculated for profit generated between 00:00 yesterday and 00:00 today - your profit can be slightly different, depending on the payout time.
Check out https://www.steemprofit.info/ to compare @tipU with other services.

@tipu profit for 2493.861 sp

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Yesterday 2493.861 STEEM POWER delegated or invested gave payout of:
0.706 SBD + 0.37 STEEM (0.99 USD), APR: 18.13% .

Delegation link: steemconnect 2493.861 SP delegation to @tipu.

Please note that the listed APR is calculated for profit generated between 00:00 yesterday and 00:00 today - your profit can be slightly different (depending on the payout time).

Check out https://www.steemprofit.info to compare @tipU with other services.

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Hi @waphilip! Here is your @tipU service user data:

  • deposit for sending tips and @tipU upvotes: 0 SBD
  • delegation status: 1196.775 STEEM POWER delegated
  • investment status: 792.89 STEEM POWER invested: 1585.78 STEEM and 0 SBD
  • pending payout: 0.156 SBD + 0.122 STEEM, next scheduled payout in: 17.5 hours
  • total @tipU STEEM POWER: 1131329 | Your share: 0.1759% | Your reinvest ratio: 0%
  • Your payouts are send in both STEEM and SBD every 24 hours
  • voting status: active, profit will be increased with each vote :)
  • profitability: 0.283 SBD + 0.148 STEEM (0.4 USD) per 1k SP delegated or invested, APR: 18.13% (data from 00:00 yesterday to 00:00 today)

I want to delegate 220 SP to @tipu

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Hi @alejandromata! Special squad of highly trained hamsters prepared this delegation link for you:
steemconnect 220.0 SP delegation to @tipu.

@tipu profit for 10000 sp

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Yesterday 10000.0 STEEM POWER delegated or invested gave payout of:
2.307 SBD + 1.065 STEEM (3.1 USD), APR: 14.34% .

Delegation link: steemconnect 10000.0 SP delegation to @tipu.

Please note that the listed APR is calculated for profit generated between 00:00 yesterday and 00:00 today - your profit can be slightly different (depending on the payout time).

Check out https://www.steemprofit.info to compare @tipU with other services.

@tipu profit for 100 sp

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Yesterday 1000 STEEM POWER delegated or invested gave payout of:
0.177 SBD + 0.287 STEEM (0.39 USD), APR: 18.8% .

Delegation link: steemconnect 1000 SP delegation to @tipu.

Please note that the listed APR is calculated for profit generated between 00:00 yesterday and 00:00 today - your profit can be slightly different (depending on the payout time).

Check out https://www.steemprofit.info to compare @tipU with other services.

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Yesterday 100.0 STEEM POWER delegated or invested gave payout of:
0.018 SBD + 0.029 STEEM (0.04 USD), APR: 18.8% .

Delegation link: steemconnect 100.0 SP delegation to @tipu.

Please note that the listed APR is calculated for profit generated between 00:00 yesterday and 00:00 today - your profit can be slightly different (depending on the payout time).

Check out https://www.steemprofit.info to compare @tipU with other services.

@tipu profit for 100 sp

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Yesterday 100.0 STEEM POWER delegated or invested gave payout of:
0.018 SBD + 0.017 STEEM (0.03 USD), APR: 14.55% .

Delegation link: steemconnect 100.0 SP delegation to @tipu.

Please note that the listed APR is calculated for profit generated between 00:00 yesterday and 00:00 today - your profit can be slightly different (depending on the payout time).

Check out https://www.steemprofit.info to compare @tipU with other services.

@tipu profit for 100 sp

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Yesterday 100.0 STEEM POWER delegated or invested gave payout of:
0.002 SBD + 0.047 STEEM (0.01 USD), APR: 18.74% .

Delegation link: steemconnect 100.0 SP delegation to @tipu.

Please note that your profit can be slightly different (depending on the payout time).

Check out https://www.steemprofit.info to compare @tipU with other services.

I want to delegate 1246.767 @tipu

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I want to delegate 1246.767 sp @tipu