I'm under flag attack by the Steemit Puritain Crowd... And they are going to be sorry if they don't stop!

in #steemit8 years ago (edited)



This post (see below) that is not in any violation of the TOS, is Tagged NSFW and has a Censored Thumbnail. They have no right to tell me anything or attack me. I'm following all rules and the TOS.

The NSFW Post Under Attack:
https://steemit.com/photography/@nspart/nspart-lauren-nude-pictorial-part-2-5-images-nsfw-nudity


From the Steemit TOS:

" 4. Adult-Oriented ContentSteemit  is intended for a general audience and, as a result, some Steemit  Content may discuss or depict adult-oriented topics. We realize that  this content may not be appropriate or desirable for some of our readers  depending on their current location, age, background or personal views.  As a result, we mark this content as Not Safe For Work (“NSFW”).Marking  Steemit Content as NSFW does not prevent you from being able to access  this content but, instead, helps you make informed decisions about the  type of content you view on Steemit. You understand and agree that you  access content marked as NSFW at your own risk."


Adult Content is Allowed on Steemit. They have no right to tell me anything or attack me. I'm following all rules and the TOS.

These are the people trying to censor what you view by  abusing the flag feature to flag content that is not against the TOS, is  tagged NSFW and even has a Censored frame and is of quality.
 

@technology @bigsambucca  @seth-krings @technology  @arisa @appz  @auction @noganoo @fyrstikken (just lost my witness vote) @sigmajin (runs around flagging people) @eddard  

If these people don't stop hassling me over my very tame posts   (when there are people on here posting hardcore porn). I will make it  my  mission to bring as many Adult Entertainers/Porn  Actresses/Actors/Cam  Girls on to Steemit as possible that will make  this site look like  RedTube & Pornhub and it is all totally allowed  by the TOS as it  does not prohibit adult content.
 

Now I don't want that as my work is not hardcore porn. Most of it is   art, erotic art and some is pictorials like you would find in Foreign   Playboy or Penthouse. All of which people are upvoting. I do what I do.  I  don't go around being a busybody asshole flagging people that are   following the TOS.
 

I'm tired of people like that trying to censor and restrict content   that is not against the TOS. You don't like it don't look at it.  Steemit  does not belong to you puritans alone. And I'm following all  guidelines. But if you  push me I will make sure  there is a majority of  porn people on steemit rather than people like you. You are abusing the  flag feature.  It should be used for copyright  infringement and things  that violate the TOS. My posts do neither.
 

Keep it up, even if I quit the site or for some reason got  unethically banned as I follow the TOS. I can still do it  and honestly it would best thing for Steemit and it  would grow  faster than ever as they would bring a massive new audience  to the site  in terms of all of their followers that would out number all of you.
 

I'm here to please only the people that like my content I don't care  about those that don't. I  follow the guidelines and TOS out of respect  for Steemit and the users  that don't want to see my work.
 

Stay off my page and stop flagging my post or I will bring the Adult  Community on Steemit. AVN is this month in my city and I know all of the  Agencies, the forums the people are on. So decide if  you want to play  fair and stop trying to censor  my work and posts or if you want the  massive porn community and their following on here.

PS: You don't like Adult Content then have Steemit change  the TOS and then watch the site die just like betamax did.

Update: So it seems this image below is what everyone was so upset about a censored thumbnail image (from my chat room posts) less than 1" in size which would be allowed on Facebook and IG, Amazon.com and most other social networks. I'd be embarrassed to be such an anal retentive puritan making a big deal out an image that small and censored. People like that will kill this site. I'd totally be on their side if it was a post of Hardcore Porn in the thumbnail. But this is not even close.  


I will try make my Censoring cover more if that's such a huge issue. Maybe they could have just told me rather than flag me and leave a rude comment. But regarding TOS and Normal Standards I'm still in the right.



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Hey,
I am also supporting your work with what I can do as you probably have seen. Some points from my perspective that may actually help you, too:

Steemit is very new. There are 100k registered accounts BUT less than 5000 active people for the moment. Steemit WILL grow into millions, I am sure of that.

But compare it with any other platform. How much can you earn there? There is a "views" counter at the bottom of your posts. Here 76 views so far. This reflects how many people have seen your post. You got 1,20$ which is round about 2 Cents per view. From marketing perspective that is insanely high.

I don´t understand how someone with your success here can cry out and scream Abuse / Censorship. There is one very important point to make and you already seem to get that point.

Upvoting/downvoting is subjective. This is unique imho in the whole world of online platforms. There are no "rules" here on steemit, there is consent. You can post the most disgusting hardcore porn and it will be on the blockchain. (thus no censorship)
Downvoting / flagging is the only way someone has to express (subjectively) his/her dissatisfaction.

As the content on steemit is judged by subjective consensus, the nsfw tag and the possibility to hide such tagged content was a step to satisfy most of the users (thus not all) and these will continue to downvote/flag you.

Imagine you go to the marketplace in "freetown" and begin shouting "god is dead". My guess is, that most of the people wouldn´t care, it´s freetown... no rules here, but to hurt noone physically. Some may start shouting with you, Some will disagree but say nothing, others will starting to shout "God lives".

Here it is the same thing. You´ll never get a 100% consensus and that´s ok.
Believe me... your reputation and your effort will pay out in time. No need to take it personal, no need to start complaining. THIS is the free market. ATM patience is the key.

I did not upvote this post, because I don´t like this kind of posts, but I keep upvoting your good work!

Thank you for your well thought out and perspective and post and of course for your support of my work... as that's really what I'm here for.

I believe that properly tagged porn should not be flagged, so you've got my upvote.

I support you, but you are taking these flags way too serious.

It isn't bullying, attack or harassment.
By threatening a list of people you may have turned this into that direction though.

I want the downvote button back.

Thanks for your support and I'll try to take them less seriously on a personal level... But it does affect my payout.

Well that's the way I feel about it. I'm not threatening them directly with any harm or action against them personally. So it would not qualify for any of the above. I have only taken what is public information on Steemd and put it on my page so people can see who is flagging and trying to suppress my work. If people are going to act like that and call out my work for being porn (when most it really is not and is very tame) and flag it then I'll show them porn and help Steemit at the same time. But it's a Sacrifice play. And I don't want to do it.

I never saw the downvote button but I do think that would be much less offensive. But payouts are so low already than we don't need people feeling like they need to either upvote or downvote everything they see in my opinion and knowing human nature I'm guessing that's why it was removed.

My problem is that they are attacking based on personal bias. Not actual quality of the content. The pictures are good. They are from the same set that was published.

Is as if I went around downvoting everything about Jesus. Just because I'm not a Christian. I find that to be unethical. And if that's what steemit turns in to, a voting war on every post with the crowd with the largest numbers I think that would be death for this ever becoming a massive mainstream site making everyone rich.

The flag button was the downvote button. They just change the name.

You should haven't pay any tiniest attention to these people IMHO. They are a huge drain source of wasting of your time, bring negativity to your life. Keep working on what you do.

Thanks for your support and I agree. These kinds of people are nothing but negativity. If it didn't affect my payout I wouldn't at all. It's kinds of it a tough situation as lately my more Artistic and non-nude work and single image post of those pieces have not been doing that well $3.00 to $6.00

Where the more explicit work is making more money $15.00-$20+ but then it get's flagged and attacked.

I post what makes money as that is what allows me to keep shooting.

Personally, i flagged your post for attempting to intimidate voters. I normally don't even look at adult-tagged content, it was brought to my attention by another user.
I also flagged your comment in my post for voter intimidation.

You're on the list now. And people should not be flagging post based on personal religious bias. I follow all rules and terms and my posts do really well.

I will continue to post the names of those who downvote me.

I'm on a lot of peoples list. I dont let it bother me.

then i will continue to downvote you. Its nothing personal, and FWIW I am not a religious person. I am a non-practicing Jew.

I just don't believe that voter intimidation is an acceptable way to gain votes.

I have also downvoted this post, for the reasons listed above.... if you wish to remove the offending material, that is to say, the attempts to intimidate voters, and just post pornography, i have no problem at all with that and will remove my downvote.

ALso, FWIW, i cast my vote on piston, so the steemit TOS does not really apply

But bullying through flag attacks due to person bias is ok? What a joke!

And you're not making any sense. I'm not trying to gain a vote. I just want the flag attacks and harassment to stop! That's all!

No, voting is OK.

I think it is very, very unfortunate that the people who designed the UI choose to represent a downvote the way they do. But its still a downvote.

I don't know, (or care particularly), why those other people downvoted you. Since your post is appropriately tagged, and relatively mild compared to some of the adult content i have seen here, i see no problem with it.

But yes, they have every right to downvote you. Voting is subjective. Blogging and posting rewards are subjective proof of work. If you care to read my three most recent posts, rather than simply revenge flag them, they might give you some insight into where I am coming from.

there actually already is a block button. Its right next to "follow" on the top right when you look at someone s profile

All this could be solved with a Block Button. The most needed feature on here. They could block me and never see my stuff and I could block them and never be flagged.

So you're also a hypocrite. You're threatening to downvote me unless I comply with what you want, which is to not defend myself the only way possible. So you are using intimidation by making a threat against me personally. You're a total hypocrite and none of this is even your business. I'm acting out of self-defense. I attacked no one and made no threats until they attacked me.

That is rubbish, your posts have always been properly tagged and tastefully done.

Thanks I know. I have tried really hard to be part of this community any get along with everyone.

Yes I'm over the flagger crowd

I wander if downvoting/flagging reduces your voting power for that day like up voting does? If it did, this would keep people from abusing their downvoting/flagging right.

reading this, remembering when you flagged me LOL

Yes I flagged your comment because you left a rude comment that was uncalled for saying you wish my work was not on steemit. I don't go around attacking people's posts bias on personal bias or making unsolicited critiques. I only flagged your rude comment on my post. That's not even remotely the same as attacking someone's post and leaving rude comments based on personal bias.

I wonder why you think it was rude @nspart ?
I was just saying my opinion. You probably get a lot of different opinions with your type of work.
No hate bro.

I don't appreciate unsolicited critiques and in the Artistic community they are considered rude in fact many sites and forum and groups prohibit unsolicited critiques. They are of no value anyway. If you read my responce to your boyfriend when he tried to get me to unflag your comment you can read why I say they are of no value.

Giving an unsolicited critique is really a person showing their ego and arrogance, thinking that their opinion matters to someone else and also an attack on the person's self-expression.

Regardless your negativity and you are not wanted on my posts. So you're muted.

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