RE: WHY ARE SOME OF STEEMIT BEST WRITERS LEAVING? ARE YOU FEELING IGNORED? WHAT CAN WE DO TO INCREASE RETENTION OF CREATIVE WRITERS? DO WE HAVE ROOM FOR SIMPLE SOCIAL POSTS? HOW CAN WE BALANCE BETWEEN SOCIAL MEDIA AND CREATIVE CONTENT?
This is not about tough times. I have consistently written well thought-out content creating my own graphics. I contributed massively to almost every project here in Steemit—from Robinhood whale, steemtrail, steemsports, and competitions for the curie project and steem mascot. I created different concepts and suggestions for building different functions on the platform in order to improve its efficiency. 3 months of really hard work with almost no aknowledgement.
Even in "good times" if I didn't have Dan following me I would be earning pennies. 3/4 of all my earnings came from him. I can count the medium-tier votes from whales in one hand. Suddenly, after some posts I created in order to improve the image of Steemit by critisizing it, he even stopped upvoting me.
I also tried to critiize and expose scummers like the TDV who abuse concepts such as anarchy and libertarianism to appeal to their own manipulative interests. Others have come out as personal victims of his endeavour just because some of us dared to speak against the "oil" that runs the machine of Steemit. Most friends of mine left because they are appalled with the close jerk circle Steemit has become with many of these shady images—from convicts to dodgy ex-cops or runnaway scammers. It has become blasphemous to mess with the shilled trending Totems. What do you expect? Your regular folk to see the front page and say "Wow, I am enligted by the tinfoil, i think i will invite my friends over"?
No my friend. It is not the rewards. I almost worked for free to make Steemit better because I cared for it ike it was my own page. I don't believe 80 hours of my work in my last posts over the past couple of weeks are not worth even $50 in total when certain individuals get them with 4 lines of text or a couple of pictures. Let's stop bullshiting each other for the sake of political correctness. I adhere to libertarian, anarchic and crypto ideas but not in the conventional, repackaged, shallow-skin-deep we see trending evryday in the $300-$400 tier. I employ objective anthropological analysis and demonstrate some fallacies that most whales don't seem to entertain because they don't want to accept. Perhaps truth hurts a bit much. Perhaps some want it to be more like "regulated" Facebook rather than a freer platform for different points of view and different forms of expression. TDV calls people murderers and crooks, bashing individuals and is ok because they are "scam" polticians that want to "destroy the world". Kyriacos bashing out TDV or others for being misanthropic and scummy is "bad". Double Standards much?
There is clear favouritism in here and people are not blind. You can shill each other all you want but people are not idiots. Very few people like me layed down their heart and soul giving 100% while getting minimal rewards. Most left for much less. I got 1k In cash total rewards more or less in 3 months. I powered up almost half of my power when your favourite shills where powering down. Talk about turning your back on those who believe in you.
I am even bothering to still explain myself to you. I am sure that one day indeed Steemit can become succesful but discarding those of us who gave so much to the platform does not give much hope to the average writer for even considering to stick around.
Let's not become the next myspace and hi5 for the looming crypto-facebook that will come swip us off our feet by taking advantage of our pedantic mistakes.
@kyriacos You are one of Steemit's best authors. Your posts are as good as any of the top blogs on the Internet, easily several levels of quality above my own. But please do not forget that this is a social network also. When you make negative comments and slam other people repeatedly on Steemit and in chat channels, it is harder to get votes. There are ways to make points constructively without giving in to anger and frustration. I hope you continue writing, since your blog makes Steemit much better.
@donkeypong
Thank you for your kind words. Nonetheless, we both know quality of content is pointless in Steemit. Connections and keeping appearances are all the money. Here is the deal though. I am not good with people, especially scammers and shady individuals.
The content in my posts has nothing to do with my comments. Is this how we vote now? Appearances? Also what kind of messed up double standard is this? TDV and others slam politicians all the time calling them murderers, crooks, frauds with much harsher epithets with little to no arguments making thousands. Pure slander with high rewards. I use sometimes deregatory epithets alongside structured arguments and I get the middle finger?
Also I don't see how I am doing anything bad by exposing a well known fraud that most likely damages our image. I treat the same people who try to manipulate others with cheap psychological tricks, coin scams and any other dishonest and devious behaviour. I am not just running around cursing at random people. All I am doing is trying to clear out the garbage from Steemit.
I am not angry. I am not frustrated. This is how I talk in real life as well. I am blunt and this might appear as "rude". Also, you can't seriously expect me to continue writing for pennies and generating traffic for the network and not getting rewarded because of my "character". Where are we? George's Orwell's 1984?
I thought I came here to escape Facebook's policing not to experience an upgraded version of it through the blockchain. If the people i engage with don't like the comments let them flag me or unfollow me. What I see though is not flagging or unfollowing. Quite the opposite. Some people I fought I even became friends with over time.
who would have thought. Steemit is becoming PC....i am buffled
I think you're forgetting that it's still early days and that the wealth in this platform is still being distributed from the top. You should be appreciative that you were chosen by @dan to receive some of his own distribution.
Also, I think you have a real problem with @thedollarvigilante. A real anger problem. I understand the favoritism argument but at the same time whales are going to like what they want. You can't control what someone likes. If they like TDV or Charlie Shrem then so be it. Don't hate them because you aint them.
I put in a lot of hours here too but I don't complain. There's no reason too. We're only 6 months in and everyone's expecting the same alpha features as facebook, which has been around for years now.
I think you need to be appreciative for what you have rather than complaining about what you do not.
this sounds like just another pull string doll that only says "are you jelly? are you jelly? are you jelly?" there is clear bias here. there are people raking in huge sums and adding zero content. i have run out of time, myself. honest work, here i come. that will mean leaving steemit to go do crap that at least i can count on for reward for value. there is a clear misunderstanding of value here. the things i have made the most from contain little or no value. things i have worked my ass off for get zero, zero, zero, zero, zero, zero. 200 votes for a post and not enough for a burger, bias. someone else does fly on leaf photographs with 200 dollar payouts, bias. try to emulate the trending page and zero, zero, zero. goodbye steemit, i wish i could sustain my contributions, but there is too much bias here. if i have time i may come back to upvote the friends that i have made here who are also being crushed by endless bias. am i jelly? no, i'm just not stupid, or at least not stupid enough to waste any more time here than i already have. waiting for some pie in the sky future while i am running out of the ability to feed myself and watching while slackers with the right connections make more in a month than i ever will here at this rate. no thanks. i can make more money for less work at Mcdonalds, and i can get a better job than that, certainly better than steemit.
These "good writers" sound like a bunch of self-entitled children. Just look at these comments. Most of us who haven't received the fortune and fame that people with over 70 rep have, and yes I'm looking directly at you @stellabelle, we haven't complained as much as you guys are now. In every thread I see you guys posting the exact same thing. No body cares. You're preaching to the choir, because the audience doesn't give a shit what you and your 135K Steem Power have to cry about. You guys follow less than 200 people, @kyriacos up there follows 21 people, and yet you're talking about unappreciated authors like you guys know every author out there. I imagine it would be pretty hard to find good writers when you're following less than 1 percent of the community. Sheesh.
Whales and dolphins are people. People do what they want. Take your toxic complaints elsewhere. I received 231 votes on my latest posts, the most votes I've ever received, yet the potential payout is only $6. Am I complaining? Hell no. I don't give a shit. Writing isn't hard work. Saying that writing is harder than working at mcdonalds is fucking ignorant too. I've worked at fast food restaurants and I was turning out meals in 30 secs flat. Try doing that for 12 hours straight. I would rather talk out my ass than go back to manual labor. You people and your entitlement disgust me.
they don't complain just for the sake of themselves. They are pointing out which is actually a disturbing problem for the platform, where fringe politics are dominating the trending page.
Charlie Shrem may have a past associated with crime, but he did hard time for it, and he was quite young (that is really common and relatable to many people). I think that his 'geek in prison' series is unique experience tho, something a lot of people would want to read; mainstream or otherwise. I dont think he deserves to be lumped the TDV.
you must be talking to someone else because i have done lots of manual and skilled and highly skilled labor and been a writer in my 31 years in the job market. i have 134 steem power all of it earned, none of it bought. i follow 159 people and do my damnedest to keep up. most of my followers are people just like me, poor, with low steem power. these "toxic" complaints of mine are merely to point out that most of these whales run around upvoting each other and don't give the rest of us the time of day while they use dummy accounts to funnel huge amounts of money out of the platform. i have seen this directly, myself. i am not going to snitch names, but it is easy enough to find if you just look. the largest i have seen so far is $337,000 transferred to polonex from an account with 25 reputation zero posts, zero followers and zero followed. this is only one of them.
i, have worked at Mcdonalds, years ago before i acquired some skills, and yes, i have worked harder here, for less money than i did there.
i, have done these things in the real world so, talk all you want to, but you, my fellow steemian, are wrong. entitlement, please. you and your permissive of corruption attitude, disgust me. live in denial if you like, but don't you dare call me entitled. you had better go find some ignorant crap head who is going to put up with that shit, because i will not.
"What is your favorite science fiction character" a post with a paragraph and a picture......... you expect a ton of money out of that?
just trying to give the power voters what they want. the most money i've made has been from things that took the least effort. my post what is your favorite science fiction book generated more community interaction than almost any other of my posts. people don't seem to want to learn. they want to be entertained. ipso facto, bug on a leaf photography with $200 payout. if i were talking to people who wanted valuable information then i would give it to them. i spend more time on comments to intelligent individuals than on posts. speaking of which, i'll be moving along now.
I don't want to be associated with scammers and frauds. I adhere to an-cap and voluntarist ideas myself but seeing how he manipulates people through them makes my skin crawl.
In the same way you can't accuse TDV for bashing Hilary because he is jealous of her.
I don't complain about the platform's functionality. I rather designed solutions for it. You are missing my whole point. I explain why others are leaving and you are still cheerleading the popular shilled view.
Level up your arguments mate.
... You're a very narcissistic creature aren't you.
People are always going to be who they're going to be. There's scammers and frauds in every corner of the internet these days so why act surprised that they're here.
I'm not cheerleading I'm putting you back in your place. You're acting as if Steemit has done wrong by you when in reality it's done nothing but give. Seriously, show some grattitude, man the fuck up, and do your thing. Who cares what other people are doing. Hell, if I spent my days caring bout what others were doing I'd be manic.
I love it when someone takes everything I say out of context in order to prove a point, as if breaking it down somehow makes you feel better.
Your rebuttals are unintelligible, like arguing with a semi-intelligent ape. How's that for an ad hominem?
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@senseiteekay I should tell u that @kyriacos will never loose, dont try to explain anything to him, he is always right :P ... It is like u can be a
and more but... he is not a narcissist
Wondering why he is still here because he
There is Medium and other places for "good writers" too...
We all want to help to make Steemit a better place (I think, at least I want) but for sure with his way of criticizing (Im always right and everybody is wrong) he will not be going anywhere (followed only for people who like this way but, as far I can see, can not do much to change anything here... like other writers)
Ad hominems don't help your argument...
I left facebook because I want to be associated with a better culture. Is that an argument really? That "shit happens"?
No need to talk out of your ass. You haven't even managed to pull a proper argument yet.
I compare my contribution to others like all people do including you. Indeed it has given much but barely enough.
I did show "some" gratitude. Very few have "manned the fuck up" against whales like I did. check my posts. Your political correctness is overshadowed by a single hair hanging from my balls.
I don't care what others are doing. I explain why we don't have user retention.
You are impressive. You manage to commit at least 5 logical fallacies with each post. Let's see if you brake a record with the next comment.
pathetic-tier like the rest. You need to level up. i don't deal well with sheepled teenagers.
If I had a nickel for everytime I heard this bullshit argument. IT'S NOT EARLY. This is the internet. People have shorter attention spans than a goldfish. The hype is over, the wave has crashed, the Titanic has hit the iceberg. You keep holding out for this new wave of users, please, hold your breath until they get here. The reason we had a spike of new users before was because people were excited by the platform and told people about it. Then a few weeks later they looked around and realized that they were never going to get their content noticed over the constant stream of 60+ rep users writing over and over about how great and revolutionary steemit is, @dollarvigilante and @steemtruth writing absolute garbage piles full of conspiracy theories and occult (which btw was somehow always in the trending section to welcome new users), and the ill-conceived steemfest circle-jerk. Yet users like you (that are still naive enough to believe that this magical wave of new users is just around the corner and we don't need to do anything different to attract them) are still voting for the same garbage hoping for that .001 SP payout.
Yeah, @kyriacos, let's do that. Let's just sing kumbayah in the corner while what was a pretty decent platform continues its descent into internet purgatory.
@senseiteekay, just to be clear, I'm not complaining about what I don't have. I've taken my writing elsewhere and am getting paid regardless. What's frustrating is that this platform could have been (and still could be) something awesome, but it's been mismanaged by the people that, frankly, have the most to lose. I mean think about it. My SP account currently has about 971 SP in it. At one point, that would have been worth almost $2K, now it's worth a tenth of that. In that context, consider the losses that the whales have taken over the last two months. Yet, they continue to do what they've always done.
It blows my mind that you can't see that.
when TDV gets exposed from his x-partner you will be apologizing to me for trying to clean the platform and exposing myself. Don't worry. the best are to come.
You've completely missed the point. We don't care about what the @dollarvigilante is doing, we care about what you're doing, and right now you're bashing Steemit with little evidence to substantiate your claims. You're the problem right now, not him.
Self-entitlement can be a bitch.
I explained the problem methodigally and with examples. I explained why I do what I do and why other people might be leaving. Throwing the "unsubtantiate claims" is ludicrous. My evidence is my public account and everything I wrote is based on that evidence. Everything I wrote is pretty much substatiated. I think you like to use fancy words that suit to ideological debates. Doesn't really cut it.
You don't grasp the magnitude about how TDV kind of types affect negatively someone who would join. Perhaps because you are into the anarcho-libertatian-blockchain mentality way too deep. You don't comprehend how cryptocurrencies are still frowned upon because most people involved are scammers or real criminals in the real world trying to get away. I offer constructive criticism.
I don't know but maybe english comprehension is not your thing. And btw, you haven't even scratched the surface quality wise or contributing anything beneficial for Steemit other than vocal cheerleading or to judge what I did so far. I don't think you are in any position to judge me, but thanks for trying.
Im wondering now why people are still using "fiat currency" like dollars or euros when the majority part of the scammers, "terrorists" or real criminals are using it all the time??? Did u read what u write? ;)
This was kind of.... I do not know how to say it... well, hope you will find someone one day who can be on your level... (sarcasm included)
Btw did u realize that you are only attacking people and nothing more? And, please, can u write the name of the ex-partner from TDV to look in the internet about it... hope I find something more interesting to say about his scams than attack peoples here
I think you've been doing a great job so far. Not sure what you mean by a crypto facebook. I think it's not possible :) I mean, your posts have been earning way more than if you would post them on your own site, instagram, facebook, medium or any other blog site I think...
The question is really: are you in it for the money, or are you in it for the content, features of the blockchain (superfast confirmations / transactions, decentralised content) and the community? There will always be people earning more rewards and people earning less. The fact that the rewards are going down is mostly based on the price of Steem going down.
Still if one earns double digits or even pennies with a post is quite a lot more than one would earn with a post on facebook, medium or twitter right? 300 USD per month is not a bad revenue either I would say...
Yes I had a 5000 SBD post in good times but I am not surprised they are lowered nowadays, it's all due to the price of Steem. (Yes my posts still do rake in quite some SBD but that's because of support for SteemFest, as you can see all those post rewards are transferred to @steemfest immediately)
Remember: Before Steemit there was no such a thing as a decentralised (blogging) platform where your contributions got you tokens of value in return. Now having a lower price of Steem thx to the hype wear-off is of course disappointing, but... what did you do before Steem? One would post on FB, Medium, Twitter. No rewards whatsoever except a like, a heart and a recommend.
Let's all work together to make this a great blockchain and emphasize on the features of 'decentralisation of content' more (no censorship!) instead of about not having that much liquid rewards as before. If this platform grows 1000% you are in a great position.
If I was a regular guy not promoting steemit and just throwing by hasty posts left and right I wouldn't mention it. Whatever lands, lands right?. I mention it because I am not that guy and I haven't been getting reward even in the good days. I craft every post carefully spending hours and hours for making my own graphics as well. Half of my work is designing Steemit stuff. You get to keep the steem power mate. i get to keep a middle finger.
There is a clear bias and I think it has to do my content and my confrontentional stance toward those who are scammers like TDV. I am trying to reach Dan now in order to find out what my future will be here. 3 months in with 100% push for myself I think its enough. I won't be posting any more content until he replies. I treated this like a full time job.
And yes, i think I could make more writing these in my personal blog. I know i produce good content. I don't like hearing this mantra of "at least here you earn money". its getting old and doesn't really apply the way you think it applies. I wrote an article about the basic human psychology.
if it applied like you suggest it does then we would have much higher user retention.
Others like me, who got involved much less with Steemit have already 30K in Steem Power.
I know we have crossed swords over one of your posts, but wow, you're spot-on here.
I always cross swords. Friends are made when we face both the dark and bright side of the individual. Most people maintain shallow relationships because they get to know only one. I treat people like I would my own family. Tough love.
I have added you to my feed. Thanks for sharing.
Ditto
@kyriacos, I am sincerely sorry you consider me a "dodgy" ex-cop...because I'm not. I won't uptalk my character because my record of integrity accounts for that. I will talk about my content. My content is original. I haven't found any stories like it. This is why dozens of legitimate "story publishers" have published my life story...Rolling Stones Magazine, National Public Radio's "This American Life," Texas Observer, Maxim Magazine, How To Make Money Selling Drugs (the hit drug war documentary purchased by Robert Dinero,) and dozens more. I currently received a monthly check from a movie producer for my life story rights. Whether you like me or not and regardless of what you think of my character, my content is original and valuable. You can prove this to yourself by trying to find anything else like it. You can't. So that proves it's original. Brand names paying me and publishing my life story is proof of value. My content belongs on Steemit and so do I. I am happy to be here. Maybe you should lighten up on me a bit. If you knew me personally, I'm positive you would like me. Give me another try.