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RE: WHY ARE SOME OF STEEMIT BEST WRITERS LEAVING? ARE YOU FEELING IGNORED? WHAT CAN WE DO TO INCREASE RETENTION OF CREATIVE WRITERS? DO WE HAVE ROOM FOR SIMPLE SOCIAL POSTS? HOW CAN WE BALANCE BETWEEN SOCIAL MEDIA AND CREATIVE CONTENT?

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I think you're forgetting that it's still early days and that the wealth in this platform is still being distributed from the top. You should be appreciative that you were chosen by @dan to receive some of his own distribution.

Also, I think you have a real problem with @thedollarvigilante. A real anger problem. I understand the favoritism argument but at the same time whales are going to like what they want. You can't control what someone likes. If they like TDV or Charlie Shrem then so be it. Don't hate them because you aint them.

I put in a lot of hours here too but I don't complain. There's no reason too. We're only 6 months in and everyone's expecting the same alpha features as facebook, which has been around for years now.

I think you need to be appreciative for what you have rather than complaining about what you do not.

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this sounds like just another pull string doll that only says "are you jelly? are you jelly? are you jelly?" there is clear bias here. there are people raking in huge sums and adding zero content. i have run out of time, myself. honest work, here i come. that will mean leaving steemit to go do crap that at least i can count on for reward for value. there is a clear misunderstanding of value here. the things i have made the most from contain little or no value. things i have worked my ass off for get zero, zero, zero, zero, zero, zero. 200 votes for a post and not enough for a burger, bias. someone else does fly on leaf photographs with 200 dollar payouts, bias. try to emulate the trending page and zero, zero, zero. goodbye steemit, i wish i could sustain my contributions, but there is too much bias here. if i have time i may come back to upvote the friends that i have made here who are also being crushed by endless bias. am i jelly? no, i'm just not stupid, or at least not stupid enough to waste any more time here than i already have. waiting for some pie in the sky future while i am running out of the ability to feed myself and watching while slackers with the right connections make more in a month than i ever will here at this rate. no thanks. i can make more money for less work at Mcdonalds, and i can get a better job than that, certainly better than steemit.

These "good writers" sound like a bunch of self-entitled children. Just look at these comments. Most of us who haven't received the fortune and fame that people with over 70 rep have, and yes I'm looking directly at you @stellabelle, we haven't complained as much as you guys are now. In every thread I see you guys posting the exact same thing. No body cares. You're preaching to the choir, because the audience doesn't give a shit what you and your 135K Steem Power have to cry about. You guys follow less than 200 people, @kyriacos up there follows 21 people, and yet you're talking about unappreciated authors like you guys know every author out there. I imagine it would be pretty hard to find good writers when you're following less than 1 percent of the community. Sheesh.

Whales and dolphins are people. People do what they want. Take your toxic complaints elsewhere. I received 231 votes on my latest posts, the most votes I've ever received, yet the potential payout is only $6. Am I complaining? Hell no. I don't give a shit. Writing isn't hard work. Saying that writing is harder than working at mcdonalds is fucking ignorant too. I've worked at fast food restaurants and I was turning out meals in 30 secs flat. Try doing that for 12 hours straight. I would rather talk out my ass than go back to manual labor. You people and your entitlement disgust me.

they don't complain just for the sake of themselves. They are pointing out which is actually a disturbing problem for the platform, where fringe politics are dominating the trending page.

Charlie Shrem may have a past associated with crime, but he did hard time for it, and he was quite young (that is really common and relatable to many people). I think that his 'geek in prison' series is unique experience tho, something a lot of people would want to read; mainstream or otherwise. I dont think he deserves to be lumped the TDV.

you must be talking to someone else because i have done lots of manual and skilled and highly skilled labor and been a writer in my 31 years in the job market. i have 134 steem power all of it earned, none of it bought. i follow 159 people and do my damnedest to keep up. most of my followers are people just like me, poor, with low steem power. these "toxic" complaints of mine are merely to point out that most of these whales run around upvoting each other and don't give the rest of us the time of day while they use dummy accounts to funnel huge amounts of money out of the platform. i have seen this directly, myself. i am not going to snitch names, but it is easy enough to find if you just look. the largest i have seen so far is $337,000 transferred to polonex from an account with 25 reputation zero posts, zero followers and zero followed. this is only one of them.

i, have worked at Mcdonalds, years ago before i acquired some skills, and yes, i have worked harder here, for less money than i did there.

i, have done these things in the real world so, talk all you want to, but you, my fellow steemian, are wrong. entitlement, please. you and your permissive of corruption attitude, disgust me. live in denial if you like, but don't you dare call me entitled. you had better go find some ignorant crap head who is going to put up with that shit, because i will not.

"What is your favorite science fiction character" a post with a paragraph and a picture......... you expect a ton of money out of that?

just trying to give the power voters what they want. the most money i've made has been from things that took the least effort. my post what is your favorite science fiction book generated more community interaction than almost any other of my posts. people don't seem to want to learn. they want to be entertained. ipso facto, bug on a leaf photography with $200 payout. if i were talking to people who wanted valuable information then i would give it to them. i spend more time on comments to intelligent individuals than on posts. speaking of which, i'll be moving along now.

I don't want to be associated with scammers and frauds. I adhere to an-cap and voluntarist ideas myself but seeing how he manipulates people through them makes my skin crawl.

In the same way you can't accuse TDV for bashing Hilary because he is jealous of her.

I don't complain about the platform's functionality. I rather designed solutions for it. You are missing my whole point. I explain why others are leaving and you are still cheerleading the popular shilled view.

Level up your arguments mate.

... You're a very narcissistic creature aren't you.

People are always going to be who they're going to be. There's scammers and frauds in every corner of the internet these days so why act surprised that they're here.

I'm not cheerleading I'm putting you back in your place. You're acting as if Steemit has done wrong by you when in reality it's done nothing but give. Seriously, show some grattitude, man the fuck up, and do your thing. Who cares what other people are doing. Hell, if I spent my days caring bout what others were doing I'd be manic.

I love it when someone takes everything I say out of context in order to prove a point, as if breaking it down somehow makes you feel better.

Your rebuttals are unintelligible, like arguing with a semi-intelligent ape. How's that for an ad hominem?

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@senseiteekay I should tell u that @kyriacos will never loose, dont try to explain anything to him, he is always right :P ... It is like u can be a

pathetic-tier
sheepled teenagers

and more but... he is not a narcissist

Ad hominems don't help your argument...

Wondering why he is still here because he

don't want to be associated with scammers and frauds.

There is Medium and other places for "good writers" too...

We all want to help to make Steemit a better place (I think, at least I want) but for sure with his way of criticizing (Im always right and everybody is wrong) he will not be going anywhere (followed only for people who like this way but, as far I can see, can not do much to change anything here... like other writers)

... You're a very narcissistic creature aren't you.

Ad hominems don't help your argument...

People are always going to be who they're going to be. There's scammers and frauds in every corner of the internet these days so why act surprised that they're here.

I left facebook because I want to be associated with a better culture. Is that an argument really? That "shit happens"?

I'm not cheerleading I'm putting you back in your place.

No need to talk out of your ass. You haven't even managed to pull a proper argument yet.

You're acting as if Steemit has done wrong by you when in reality it's done nothing but give.

I compare my contribution to others like all people do including you. Indeed it has given much but barely enough.

Seriously, show some grattitude, man the fuck up, and do your thing.

I did show "some" gratitude. Very few have "manned the fuck up" against whales like I did. check my posts. Your political correctness is overshadowed by a single hair hanging from my balls.

Who cares what other people are doing. Hell, if I spent my days caring bout what others were doing I'd be manic.

I don't care what others are doing. I explain why we don't have user retention.

You are impressive. You manage to commit at least 5 logical fallacies with each post. Let's see if you brake a record with the next comment.

I love it when someone takes everything I say out of context in order to prove a point, as if breaking it down somehow makes you feel better.
Your rebuttals are unintelligible, like arguing with a semi-intelligent ape. How's that for an ad hominem?

pathetic-tier like the rest. You need to level up. i don't deal well with sheepled teenagers.

I think you're forgetting that it's still early days and that the wealth in this platform is still being distributed from the top.

If I had a nickel for everytime I heard this bullshit argument. IT'S NOT EARLY. This is the internet. People have shorter attention spans than a goldfish. The hype is over, the wave has crashed, the Titanic has hit the iceberg. You keep holding out for this new wave of users, please, hold your breath until they get here. The reason we had a spike of new users before was because people were excited by the platform and told people about it. Then a few weeks later they looked around and realized that they were never going to get their content noticed over the constant stream of 60+ rep users writing over and over about how great and revolutionary steemit is, @dollarvigilante and @steemtruth writing absolute garbage piles full of conspiracy theories and occult (which btw was somehow always in the trending section to welcome new users), and the ill-conceived steemfest circle-jerk. Yet users like you (that are still naive enough to believe that this magical wave of new users is just around the corner and we don't need to do anything different to attract them) are still voting for the same garbage hoping for that .001 SP payout.

I think you need to be appreciative for what you have rather than complaining about what you do not.

Yeah, @kyriacos, let's do that. Let's just sing kumbayah in the corner while what was a pretty decent platform continues its descent into internet purgatory.

@senseiteekay, just to be clear, I'm not complaining about what I don't have. I've taken my writing elsewhere and am getting paid regardless. What's frustrating is that this platform could have been (and still could be) something awesome, but it's been mismanaged by the people that, frankly, have the most to lose. I mean think about it. My SP account currently has about 971 SP in it. At one point, that would have been worth almost $2K, now it's worth a tenth of that. In that context, consider the losses that the whales have taken over the last two months. Yet, they continue to do what they've always done.

It blows my mind that you can't see that.

when TDV gets exposed from his x-partner you will be apologizing to me for trying to clean the platform and exposing myself. Don't worry. the best are to come.

You've completely missed the point. We don't care about what the @dollarvigilante is doing, we care about what you're doing, and right now you're bashing Steemit with little evidence to substantiate your claims. You're the problem right now, not him.

Self-entitlement can be a bitch.

little evidence to substantiate your claims

I explained the problem methodigally and with examples. I explained why I do what I do and why other people might be leaving. Throwing the "unsubtantiate claims" is ludicrous. My evidence is my public account and everything I wrote is based on that evidence. Everything I wrote is pretty much substatiated. I think you like to use fancy words that suit to ideological debates. Doesn't really cut it.

We don't care about what the @dollarvigilante is doing
You're the problem right now, not him. Self-entitlement can be a bitch.

You don't grasp the magnitude about how TDV kind of types affect negatively someone who would join. Perhaps because you are into the anarcho-libertatian-blockchain mentality way too deep. You don't comprehend how cryptocurrencies are still frowned upon because most people involved are scammers or real criminals in the real world trying to get away. I offer constructive criticism.

I don't know but maybe english comprehension is not your thing. And btw, you haven't even scratched the surface quality wise or contributing anything beneficial for Steemit other than vocal cheerleading or to judge what I did so far. I don't think you are in any position to judge me, but thanks for trying.

You don't comprehend how cryptocurrencies are still frowned upon because most people involved are scammers or real criminals in the real world trying to get away. I offer constructive criticism.

Im wondering now why people are still using "fiat currency" like dollars or euros when the majority part of the scammers, "terrorists" or real criminals are using it all the time??? Did u read what u write? ;)

I don't know but maybe english comprehension is not your thing. And btw, you haven't even scratched the surface quality wise or contributing anything beneficial for Steemit other than vocal cheerleading or to judge what I did so far. I don't think you are in any position to judge me, but thanks for trying.

This was kind of.... I do not know how to say it... well, hope you will find someone one day who can be on your level... (sarcasm included)

Btw did u realize that you are only attacking people and nothing more? And, please, can u write the name of the ex-partner from TDV to look in the internet about it... hope I find something more interesting to say about his scams than attack peoples here

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