Notice To Bot Spammers

in steemit •  2 years ago

Steemit is implementing a reputation system that will evolve over time. The system will start out simple and get more advanced as things progress.

Here is what you need to know:

  1. If you constantly get downvoted your posts will be marked as spam and hidden unless a user clicks to reveal all spam.
  2. If you do not earn any positive reputation by contributing to the discussion then your votes will be ignored in our ranking algorithm.
  3. If you do not have positive reputation then you will not be able to impact the reputation of others.
  4. If you have a negative reputation then your posts will be excluded from the global index pages

None of these changes require hardforks, but all of them will impact the user experience on Steemit.com

But what about Censorship?

You have a right to say what you want, but users have the right to plug their ears. All of your content will be available on the blockchain and will be visible to those who want to see it (unless we are required by law to take it down).

We will not hide / filter any content that has greater than $0.02 pending payout. If something is deemed valuable enough to be paid, then it will be displayed.

All of your comments, blogs, etc will remain visible on your own profile page.

Use the Mute Button

If you are tired of seeing posts by people, use the mute button. We will gradually incorporate the mute / follow information to better filter / sort content for users. The mute button will not hide posts with pending payouts. If you see someone you have muted with a pending payout then flag it.

Conclusion

The abuse you see today will not last long term and is an artifact of rapid growth. We fully believe that our stake-weighted reputation system will ultimately be more powerful than those available on other platforms.

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If you see someone you have muted with a pending payout then flag it.

In my opinion this doesn't sound like a good suggestion. Simply because someone mutes another person does not necessarily mean they need to flag any of their post that have a payout.

People may mute other accounts for various reasons, not always due to abuse. Someone may not like a certain topic and they may mute those who tend to post only on that topic. This does not mean those people deserve to have their content flagged, which will diminish their payout and apparently hurt their reputation under the new system.

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I agree with you, but I don't think that @dantheman was referring to this type of muting. I believe he was thinking in terms of spammers getting upvoted by other bots or newbies who don't recognize a bot. Sometimes, when writing, we think within a larger context (ie, notice-to-bot-spammers) and it doesn't occur to us that statements need to be explicitly limited for clarity's sake.

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Exactly. Bots are a different breed. Certain bots provide no value to the system and are in fact malicious. Such bots must be flagged. In fact, I would even want a way to flag accounts instead of posts, so they never even appear on my stream, not even hidden. Muting serves a different purpose.

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@liberosist so you flag cheetah when he lets you know about plagiarism? Interesting. If it seems trite keep in mind that every bot has an owner somewhere. It's the owner who is providing or removing value. Discuss the problem with them otherwise you flag an account and the owner will just create a new one. A better option would be just a defacto standard that tells bots to stay completely out, upvotes and all. Which is what #STEEMBOTSTAY is all about, treating bots as pets and talking to the owner not abusing the pet when you have a problem with the pet. We're also working on a registry for bots and their owners right now too and also to improve the quality of AI in general, so you don't get plagued with spam. Because spam whether it's one liners from people or meme posting bots, is just annoying.

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I am not talking about @cheetah. I was very clear when I said "certain bots provide no value to the system and are in fact malicious". I would never flag @cheetah.

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Totally agree

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@dantheman I support this part, but I think this issue does not only happen to steemit.com, I also see the same thing in other major sites, just give me a little advice if needed why not use capthca for everyone to do post a reply, at least this really works :)

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Captcha doesn't work with bots who don't post via the web page.

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okay thanks @abit, I think if it does not work maybe I will support the advice of others here, but I also agree with @tuck-fheman . yeah I think whatever I know it's best for the future steemit and just gave a little advice to respect the decision of @dantheman

@abit : Captcha only in the Reply Post not on a web page like done by #blogger

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Wouldn't this be a CATCHCA? /rawr

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How do you make non-steemit.com Steem clients use the captcha? Besides captchas are super-annoying.

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Alot of does shitty boots at the moment. I posted a post, and get 43 votes in 2-3 minutes. No way that isnt boot since i dont get anny cent from does.
And it is crapy with does, who down vote for no reson also.
I actualy think we would se much sick in steemit future. I dont think, this stopp here.
Would also think, all the spam and spammers would keep going on as far as nobody stopps it.
Should have did somethink about it. Foreksample you could not downvote beafore you have 100 dollar value forexample. And you could not post more than 1 post per 6 hour in the start. It is alot of thing, to do. But i dont know wath would bee the best solution. I feel steemit is a play ground right now. High class against Low class

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@dantheman
Thanks for bringing this up .

What do we do with people like @laloi2016 that running loose downvotes people all the times??

Do we kick this sort of people out???
Don't think it a bot?

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i AGREE, JUST BECAUSE YOU MUTE SOMEONE DOES NOT MEAN IT SHOULD BE FLAGGED. i LIKE TO LEARN AND READ A WHOLE LOT SO I MAY MUTE SOMEONE JUST SO I CAN SEE MORE POST FROM OTHER USERS.

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i don't understod......because i knew here...
@ dantheman just 9 hour,,have $4.173..fantastic post & my post 6 day ago just have $2,,,,oooo god maybe you can help me so that my articles you rich :D

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Fully agree. Flag is for moderation actions, not feelings

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Being able to visualize your reputation would be awesome. (Earn badges,etc) Kind of like hubpages and squidoo were doing.

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I really like this idea - it would be really cool to see someone's SP level at a glance.

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I love anything badgey

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Definite agreement here.

I haven't used hub pages or squidoo in ages, but definitely liked them. My favorite badge system out there to date (along with favorite voting system) has to be stack overflow.

Dan,

When will the follow capability allow me to see one articles quickly?

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Loving how active the development is, moving in lightning speed compared to bitcoin.... How long until the follow button will do something?

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"We will probably roll it out next week."

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@dantheman thats great to hear! ThAnks for all the hard work that goes into it! I see improvements on #steemit almost daily. Awesome!

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Agreed, I've been here 5 days and the number of changes I've seen in that time is absolutely nuts.

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Thanks for the update. I'm looking forward to this feature keep up with my favorite authors.
Btw, have you all thought about using Steemit for other uses like cash back site for shopping? I'd like to hear your thoughts.

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by this, do you mean how the old "blog" page used to be setup, where it showed JUST a person's original stories, and not all their replies too?

Not sure if this is what you're working on, as replied to @dantheman - though that'd be something great to execute too. Was great when we could see the body of a person's work on the blog page, without having to sift through all their replies / posts on others' pages too.

Good job on the reputation algorithm updates!

How will abuse be prevented from malicious automatic downvoting?

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Down votes from those with bad rep will be ignored.

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How can this be done without hard fork? Can't accounts with high SP have bad rep as well? So accounts with bad rep will still get curation rewards?

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If you do not earn any positive reputation by contributing to the discussion then your votes will be ignored in our ranking algorithm.

also would like to know where is this reputation stored? is it on the blockchain or website. I am assuming all this will only influence the website display ranking algo and not do anything on the blockchain level. I would like to see more info on how bad or good rep is gained.

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Awesome!

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Bots and botnets can be used to upvote comments and posts and inflate rep to allow for malicious flagging, which is what has been occurring for some time.

All of your content will be available on the blockchain and will be visible to those who want to see it (unless we are required by law to take it down).

So they admit the whales (which includes Steemit Inc.) control the Steem blockchain and thus it is not a decentralized, permissionless, resilient database.

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No. We only control steemit, not steem.

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The blockchain Steem is controlled by proof-of-stake which elects the delegates (aka witnesses) in your DPoS consensus algorithm which decides which content is validated. Afaik, you (Daniel Larimer aka @dan), Ned Scott (@ned), and Steemit Inc (of which Ned is the CEO) control more than 50% of the stake. Thus you three can be sued to demand you use your stake to censor content. I have downvoted your reply both for censoring my comment with an erroneous downvote (given your whale sized voting power) and also for writing an erroneous reply.

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The sentence as written could be interpreted in two ways, you chose to take the cynical interpretation when you could have just asked.

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Rather I think I chose to take the only factual interpretation.

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I agree that the way he said it sounded like it could mean removing content from the Steem blockchain, but I don't think that will happen. With a blockchain, an entirely new chain would have to be started to censor old content.

If you do not earn any positive reputation by contributing to the discussion then your votes will be ignored in our ranking algorithm.

Does this mean that I have to actually write a "reply" to the post for my vote to be given a Curation reward?

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@dantheman, And just to make things clear, this "notice" is for "bots spammers", right? Not the actual person? Or this notice applies to both?

What if your a spammer thats not a bot? I spend most of my time trying to recruit for the MinnowsUnite cause. I hope I will not be punished.

Consider checking it out sometime were over 120+ Steemers Strong now!
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If people upvote your posts more than they downvote then you will be fine.

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I do get alot of upvotes it seems :]

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Maybe users trying and keeping links relevant to the post atleast? So we don't see these campaigns/charity comments in every thread.

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why not just use the slack?

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Because slack doesn't line up with the values of the community.

Flagged for outsize payout on platform updates. Voters, please consider that your votes allocate money and do not merely signify approval or agreement. If you wish to do the later, consider commenting instead.

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You are respectful. Voters, bots, old whales and new whales, and the author, voting/voted for something. The ones (or most) who have big impacts know what they're doing indeed. Just a game, participate or not.

The bigger problem you have right now is making sure the quality content gets surfaced imho and spam bots aren't preventing that. Engineers generally aren't great content editors and community builders and the fact that a small group of engineers has all of the STEEM Power and the ability to determine which content gets surfaced is concerning.

I really look forward to see the results of such new developments... thanks for the information, hard work, dedication to this phenomenal project and sure hope this works well for us all. All for one and one for all! Namaste :)

I was wondering how you were going to address spam. The obvious solution is having to burn a fee to post and I think you will eventually be forced to use it. This proposed solution seems like it can be gamed to hurt innocent users or suppress speech. There doesn't seem to be a real good solution either way from the pros and cons, though.

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I would donate a steem per week to an effort to track, find, and castrate spammers but I agree that the "solutions" mentioned above will likely end up being censorship tools.

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Note paying to post won't solve the problem if the spammer or content thief can earn more from the activity than they must pay. Already the system charges in some sense because the poster need to hold sufficient stake in order to have the bandwidth allowance to post.

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I'm thinking to make this thing workable, actual main topic posts would require a fee to post, while comments would not, but comments would also be culled off the chain eventually.

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Increasing the number of clicks required to access content is not censorship!

Anybody who has truly been censored realizes this.

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This sounds like a superb feature. I like the reputation idea and hopefully this will prevent spam and be as good as it sounds. Great work!

@dantheman, I had written today on the possibility of "ransomware bots" rising in the future, do you think the steps you mentioned above could thwart those kinds of bots ?
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This is much needed and will hopefully raise the quality of discussion on here. Well done!

Seems like you are working on a solution for the bot problem. You guys should check out my experiment that shows prove of bot spammers as soon as you put steemit as your first tag:
https://steemit.com/steemit/@vapekings14/experiment-1

@dantheman I have a detailed response for you that I hope you and the rest of the community will read and chew over. After posting it here I realize it was way too long for a comment so I moved it over to my blog.

I would appreciate you giving it some thought because I genuinely believe these changes you are about to implement are not going to produce the results you hope they will.
This is the best advice I have to offer.

Please realize that I took over 5 hours to compose it, there is a lot of thought put into it because complex problems require deep thought, insight and consideration of all angles.
Thank you.

Hi Dan, thanks for all the work you are doing on this. Personally I believe these changes are needed and helpful. Quick question, whatever happened to rewarding parent posts as mentioned in the white paper? I did a quick test and it seems like this is not the case?

Thanks again.

That is a great news for Steemit community. I am tired of seeing bots on my posts :)

I am tired of seeing bots everywhere. Make more money than real people.

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I love futurama too!

@dantheman That was a super fast resolution to the insane amount of abuse, bots, and spam that were beginning to run rampant.

Kudos Sir on the super fast solutions as well as quick roll-out and implementation. It's pretty obvious you guys are hard at work doing your best to ensure the integrity of the platform. I know I for one was getting sick of 40 to 50+ upvotes and several bot comments within seconds of making a post. It was beginning to feel like bots were the majority of the participants and users were falling behind in 2nd place to hastily built comment and upvote scripts.

Thank you much! As your name implies, "You da Man!"

@dantheman thanks for keeping us posted of all the changes going on. Its great to see how #steemit is evolving.

this is an awesome platform and a lot of people is trying to over explode.

Thanks you are moving quickly and doing a great job i my opinion. I didnt mind the bots at 1st but starting to get a little out of hand.I like your solution.

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Funny how that works. On your first post or two, you think they are real and you get excited. After your 3rd post, you catch on that nothing is what it appears to be. By your 4th, you start getting irritated. The platform encourages participation and transparency, so it makes sense that comment spam just enrages and provides nothing of value, even if it does say "This post opened up my eyes..."

What's in place to prevent trust system corruption and bullying like you see on bitcointalk.org?

As much as I like to have faith in the good of people.. I have a feeling this may end up pretty devastating to users that are already bullied on STEEM. :/

The is great news, and kudos to the dev team for nipping the bots in the bud!

Thank you for the update Dan. The platform is growing nicely. I've been trying to flag/mute but it's really hard to keep up. From my understanding, flags use up votes, yes?

EDIT: Thought about it. If the community is constantly downvoting someone and it begins to hide the spam, then everyone needing to continuously "use up" votes is no longer as much of an issue. Thanks again.

Great post

Great stuff! thank you dan

mute button is great as for me

This is good news, cheers

Thank you for this! Make the site cleaner and more enjoyable :)

Thank you for this!

p.s.
Do we have Sherriff Whisker's support for Mayor Stubb's Senatorial candidacy?

I love this idea to reduce clutter from spam. It also will provide a chance for holders of smaller amounts of $STEEM with high reputation to get noticed by the community.

This is a good way to steem over the spammers.
What about fraud, schemes, MLM's, and so on? Duplicate posts are one thing to flag. I don't want to be using the FaceBook model of mute or hide the content from me as its predatory to these type of networks.

All the more reason for people to be pleasent on here.

a w e s o m e
Fuck spam

This sounds like a bit of confirmation of my 'awkward stage' post from yesterday. #awkward

I appreciate the work! Adaptation and leadership are essential.

thanks for the improvements @dantheman
don't let bots spoil the party 8]

Definitely watching the evolution of bots, I'm seeing them comment on posts then bots downvote them.

BTW, when I upvoted your post I saw your rewards got from $5,434.79 down to 5,306.86! Sorry for whatever made that happen, yikes!!!

My voting usually makes rewards go up, sometimes down (which has been puzzling me), this was the most dramatic change I've seen.

Any ideas on why this happens would be most enlightening, as I don't want to be put off upvoting articles I find worthy when my vote is decreasing the rewards (this was my first vote of the day). Otherwise I'll just let the bots roam free while us humans remain bewildered by it all :)

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This is the first that I have heard upvoting reduces rewards. Is this really true?

Thank you for working on a solution for these problems. I will try to support you by flagging what seems like a bot

The abuse you see today will not last long term and is an artifact of rapid growth. We fully believe that our stake-weighted reputation system will ultimately be more powerful than those available on other platforms.

Your conclusion is right on the mark. Any growing platform will suffer from a very sudden jolt of expanded growth. It's in the nature of things. Just have to step back in order to move forward.

Thanks @dantheman for taking the right approach

Good to know :)

Thank you for adding this!

I knew from the way the hacks were handled that Steemit would progress very nicely, and great features like this would be added..

Steemit is the "Next Big Thing" and I love how they take the ideas of the community, and use them to make the site better for everyone!

It's like we are ALL creating this as we go.. while also being rewarded together :D

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I imagine the future of Steemit like this map!

And just for fun I will transfer 3 Steem Dollars to the first person who can comment what this map is from or what it really represents :D

I guess the party is over, time to behave.

Thank goodness for MUTE!

May be a little late to chime in and be heard. But shouldn't the same decrease in power be applied to the flag content/author vote as the upvote? Just a way to possibly mitigate retaliation actions.

Great changes coming up, this is excellent news @dantheman, you guys are awesome <3

If people, notice I said people, not bots, are so terrible with their voting practices now, what makes you think that they won't abuse the reputation system? I've already seen users censored by cheetah just for asking hard questions. This just smells like more censorship/brigading/clique building.

Won't it require verifying accounts? How do these guys with bots that have 20 accounts each get so many accounts?

I'm hoping that all of these problems work themselves out as this place grows but there's so much wrong already, I won't be recommending the site to anyone.

I'm pretty sure that the rep tracking system as you've described will further concentrate the power in this place, which is sad.

You're on the cutting edge here and I have tons of respect for what you're attempting. I'm just not quite convinced that the social model combined with money will ever create any kind of a just system.

I'm already thinking bypasses... like buying an account with good SP to keep fueling reputation to the bots. And if it is not SP-related, then creating new bots to fuel reputation to the older bots.

This will be a long battle so it might need a lot of duct-tape to cover each move and counter-move as spammers try to evade the anti-abuse features of the platform.

Any attempt to improve the situation sounds like a good plan to me. Let's see how it evolves...

  1. If you constantly get downvoted

Wait.. there's a downvote button?!

On a serious note, I've certainly spotted several bots instantly posting in threads I've created. One was quite cool though, it provided an Flesch-Kincaid grading for my post.

Good to see you and the crew are being pro active on the issue Dan.

@dantheman appreciate all your hardwork. I think what you have proposed is a good idea and will keep the integrity of Steemit in place. Thank you.

Hey Dan. Thanks for continuing to make improvements to the site =) Steemit is truly awesome, and it keeps getting better!

Curious what you think of this. Is it something that could be added at some point?
https://steemit.com/steemit/@timcliff/steemit-enhancement-idea-give-each-user-their-own-featured-page-to-highlight-their-favorite-content-that-they-think-others

Where will the reputation be visible?

erm.. how to actually downvote ? i dont see this option

Users exploited bots so much that now they're facing more and more changes against them, But @dantheman the invisible comments are annoying too, and please do something about the +45 vote bot, whenever you use the steemit tag they jump right after 4 minutes have passed

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We are aware of that bot and taking counter measures.

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Sweet.

I guess I wasn't the only one who's been miffed at the crazy 40+ upvotes in less than a few seconds to maybe a few minutes at best. I saw that garbage on a post I made yesterday about a workaround for the broken search feature and went no way in %$*& did 40 people already read that post in the past few minutes.

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They have forming pools to annihilate any user they see fit to nuke, based on their own prejudice. It is concerning to say the least. They are using tags to do it and private bot voting pools.

Support you

Perhaps that sounds dumb. But where can i see my reputation ?

after being on steem before the rise of the bots, the platform feels tarnished by there presence. Not the way for long term success im afraid . Feels like a very crude method of governing the system.

It was about time that these Bot stir our feelings.

Great news! I look forward to getting all the spam, plaigarisers, abusers and other riff-raff sent back to either their respective holes or wither under their own inertia.

Great news! I look forward to getting all the spam, plaigarisers, abusers and other riff-raff .

A great step forward for development communication.

just curious why the two seemly opposite actions - upvote and downvote are designated to be 1) completely different icons and 2) in completely different positions of the post. BTW, maybe we need to prevent AI spam in the future?!

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Because they evolved into two completely different use cases.
Upvote is both "I agree" and "Hey I think others should see this" This has a lot of benefit for the community as a whole. It may have a financial incentive for both parties and so it's use is highly encouraged.

Flagging only affects the party being flagged and has evolved into a weapon for people to express their disagreement. Since there is no requirement to justify a flagging but it carries a direct monetary, it has become a tool of the passive aggressive to express their jealousy and bully others. Now it's a flag to be used for spam, abuse or copryright violations. If people use it as their own personal I disagree with you button instead of commenting and discussing their disagreement, then the flag loses it's importance and power in the lives of those of us who see it.

Let's MUTE them ! I got it !!

This is such good news and is being handled in a very wise way. I love your reasoning on censorship. I had become very frustrated with these bots as I expressed in a funny way here: https://steemit.com/steem/@kus-knee/this-place-is-sucking-the-life-out-of-me-and-i-m-steemed
I've done and will do all I can to help keep this place honest!

love this one, bots is everywhere, but bots can be negative effect for this site and community, against the bot is for the best result :)

Bots are a curse on social networks, especially comment sections. It's always a cat and mouse game, whack-a-mole, etc. Sometimes its hard to tell if its a mole, though. This will take the guessing out of the game. I think that bot comments are like graffiti: they are a stain on comment sections. Having a bunch of grayed out comments on your post almost makes people not want to contribute. Comment spam could be a form of soft censorship due to people not wanting to wade through it all.

lets see how this comes out to be..

I think its great to see steemit doing something about the spammers and as more people join it will only get worse, please just be careful not to hurt the folks who are honest contibuters

Interesting idea, I guess we will have to see how it evolves.

great post and great work!

It is of course true that this is part and parcel with a nascent platform. In time, the humans behind the bots will give up, while the truly useful bots will thrive. I haven't really been flagging bots unless they are really useless and malicious.

Would love to see the upvoting bots addressed.

@dantheman i made couple post's about bot's. In my last i have 20(!!) bot's. That was really annoying.
Check my last post about new bot https://steemit.com/steemit/@btc.ctb/new-bot-who-changing-the-content-of-the-comment-every-few-minutes

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And they are currently "dumb" bots of the if-then-else variety. The real challenge will be post-2020+ when AI starts getting involved: https://steemit.com/futurism/@alexgr/prediction-if-posting-mining-then-by-2020-2025-ai-posting-and-curation-will-become-the-asic-equivalent-of-mining

Good info, keep up ur work sir....

@dantheman: "stake-weighted reputation system" is the most succinct explanation of what steemit is trying to build (as I interpret it). I'm taking stake in the form of risk/stake. IE your stake in the future development of the franchise is dependent on your risk, whether it comes from early small roots or a large liquid investment at the later stages--is this too simple of an analysis or a misread of your design?

"All of your content will be available on the blockchain and will be visible to those who want to see it (unless we are required by law to take it down)."

You can remove it from the blockchain if required by law?

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No. We cannot remove from block chain.

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should clear that up in the article brother, it almost sounds that way.

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Thanks, that was my exact thought when he said that. I think a further question might be who is the law? The US, the EU, etc, etc.

I'm wondering if that was a Freudian slip? Is this a trustless operation where the system runs itself without interference or can the powers that be delete posts, accounts, etc for seemingly good reason such as because the law demands it be. I wrote an article that broaches this subject earlier today:

https://steemit.com/steem/@coinz/is-a-hard-fork-implemented-or-voted-on

tl;dr

I asked the question of how the most recent hard fork was arrived at and was it a consensus of the people (miners, content creators, curators) or just management? My closing:

Was a true consensus of stakeholders made or did the creators and a power committee of Steemit decide some needed changes be made and implement them without consensus? If that is the case, that makes Steemit more like a corporate site like Facebook and Twitter. I'm not saying that is terrible but it is not great either. I would say it would be like a benevolent dictatorship because Steemit.com is a really great place with rulers who care. We have a good monarchy but a monarchy all the same.

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Correct me if I'm wrong, @dantheman, but in my very, VERY basic knowledge of digital currency, blockchains are simply ledgers which hold ALL the information within the block. If it's altered, doesn't it corrupt the future of the blockchain? I would edit the post to eliminate "(unless we are required by law to take it down)" and temper the confusion. Just my 2 cents... (that's a joke LOL - I got no power) :P

What about me. I hardly get any Upvotes on my posts will I be deemed as unwanted here?

@dantheman I am beginning to see some comments as invisible and usually the bot got it spot on as spam. This implementation will certainly help #steemit in the long run. How do you deal with spammers who uses spinner software in this case since each content will be unique after spinning.

Thank you

These bots are made for voting
And that's just what they'll do
One of these days
These bots are gonna vote down all over you )


Although I assume the entire process with "bots" etc will continue to evolve, just like steem is evolving, we mustn't loose track of the integrity of this platform. I agree that somethings need to change and other elements must be reassessed, but who ultimately decides on these issues?

" All of your content will be available on the blockchain and will be visible to those who want to see it (unless we are required by law to take it down"

How is this possible. Can you alter the blockchain, or are you going to simple filter it?

Hey dantheman thanks for considering my ideas! I don't know if you decided after reading my post about it, but I'm glad you added it. Just to show you I'm not kidding I wrote this one way before this post :P https://steemit.com/steemit/@wisehammer/features-we-deserve-in-steemit I putted this link as a reference, no need to upvote

Good to know, thanks to everyone on the team.

Hi @dantheman, thank you for the notice!

For clarity, when you say this do you mean:

on the blockchain and will be visible to those who want to see it (unless we are required by law to take it down [from the website not the blockchain]).

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Yes

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Irrelevant what he means, instead the reality is what is relevant.


I made this logo for the bots and spammers and said that the first 40 to upvote it when I posted it could use it as their image when they finally #introduceyourself.
42 two bot's immediately took the bait, so I guess they liked the idea.
Keep up the good fight @dantheman Good Post!