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RE: Notice To Bot Spammers

in #steemit8 years ago
If you see someone you have muted with a pending payout then flag it.

In my opinion this doesn't sound like a good suggestion. Simply because someone mutes another person does not necessarily mean they need to flag any of their post that have a payout.

People may mute other accounts for various reasons, not always due to abuse. Someone may not like a certain topic and they may mute those who tend to post only on that topic. This does not mean those people deserve to have their content flagged, which will diminish their payout and apparently hurt their reputation under the new system.

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I agree with you, but I don't think that @dantheman was referring to this type of muting. I believe he was thinking in terms of spammers getting upvoted by other bots or newbies who don't recognize a bot. Sometimes, when writing, we think within a larger context (ie, notice-to-bot-spammers) and it doesn't occur to us that statements need to be explicitly limited for clarity's sake.

Exactly. Bots are a different breed. Certain bots provide no value to the system and are in fact malicious. Such bots must be flagged. In fact, I would even want a way to flag accounts instead of posts, so they never even appear on my stream, not even hidden. Muting serves a different purpose.

@liberosist so you flag cheetah when he lets you know about plagiarism? Interesting. If it seems trite keep in mind that every bot has an owner somewhere. It's the owner who is providing or removing value. Discuss the problem with them otherwise you flag an account and the owner will just create a new one. A better option would be just a defacto standard that tells bots to stay completely out, upvotes and all. Which is what #STEEMBOTSTAY is all about, treating bots as pets and talking to the owner not abusing the pet when you have a problem with the pet. We're also working on a registry for bots and their owners right now too and also to improve the quality of AI in general, so you don't get plagued with spam. Because spam whether it's one liners from people or meme posting bots, is just annoying.

I am not talking about @cheetah. I was very clear when I said "certain bots provide no value to the system and are in fact malicious". I would never flag @cheetah.

Totally agree

@dantheman I support this part, but I think this issue does not only happen to steemit.com, I also see the same thing in other major sites, just give me a little advice if needed why not use capthca for everyone to do post a reply, at least this really works :)

Captcha doesn't work with bots who don't post via the web page.

okay thanks @abit, I think if it does not work maybe I will support the advice of others here, but I also agree with @tuck-fheman . yeah I think whatever I know it's best for the future steemit and just gave a little advice to respect the decision of @dantheman

@abit : Captcha only in the Reply Post not on a web page like done by #blogger

Wouldn't this be a CATCHCA? /rawr

How do you make non-steemit.com Steem clients use the captcha? Besides captchas are super-annoying.

Well, at least someone with stake has the balls to say this.
This is good work tuck

i AGREE, JUST BECAUSE YOU MUTE SOMEONE DOES NOT MEAN IT SHOULD BE FLAGGED. i LIKE TO LEARN AND READ A WHOLE LOT SO I MAY MUTE SOMEONE JUST SO I CAN SEE MORE POST FROM OTHER USERS.

Alot of does shitty boots at the moment. I posted a post, and get 43 votes in 2-3 minutes. No way that isnt boot since i dont get anny cent from does.
And it is crapy with does, who down vote for no reson also.
I actualy think we would se much sick in steemit future. I dont think, this stopp here.
Would also think, all the spam and spammers would keep going on as far as nobody stopps it.
Should have did somethink about it. Foreksample you could not downvote beafore you have 100 dollar value forexample. And you could not post more than 1 post per 6 hour in the start. It is alot of thing, to do. But i dont know wath would bee the best solution. I feel steemit is a play ground right now. High class against Low class

@dantheman
Thanks for bringing this up .

What do we do with people like @laloi2016 that running loose downvotes people all the times??

Do we kick this sort of people out???
Don't think it a bot?

i don't understod......because i knew here...
@ dantheman just 9 hour,,have $4.173..fantastic post & my post 6 day ago just have $2,,,,oooo god maybe you can help me so that my articles you rich :D

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