Dismissing things as 'judgmental'. So what if it is judgmental?

in #psychology6 years ago

When people refer to something as "judgmental" in response to what someone said, they act as if it's some valid logical response to invalidate or dismiss a statement. But it isn't. Being judgmental is making judgments, passing judgment, being critical. Anything relating to judgment is judgmental.


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Sure, some judgments can be flawed. OK, then make the point that they are flawed. Someone can call someone else "judgmental" even if that someone else is right. Calling out something as "judgmental" doesn't accomplish anything. All it signals is that you want someone to not say what they said because you don't like it. It's too "critical" and offends you, ok. But was it valid, accurate, correct and true, or false, incorrect and inaccurate? Some people just want everyone to be "nice", for everything to be covered in a superficial positivity mask so that we can all "get along".

If it's just someone being an asshole, mean, troll, abusive, etc., then that is something else. Sure, people can go overboard to blame someone for something. But if they are at fault, then that's a valid judgment because it's accurate. Now, they an get over it and not continue to blame someone who is trying to make up for their mistake, to harp on it, and keep repeating the judgment that doesn't serve any purpose other than to shame someone who recognizes their wrong.

But, if someone doesn't recognize their fault, that they are to blame, that they did something wrong when they did, then trying to get them to acknowledge it by repeating the judgment isn't being a false accuser, or being abusive, or mean, or an asshole. People are allowed to discern reality and let others know what they think (judgment), and better yet to explain their reasoning. Or they can let it go after they point it out once. Maybe no one wants to listen to their argument anyways, so better to use time and energy where it matters more.

What are valid judgments to make? Judgments are about what is right and what is wrong. Judgments are about right and wrong, from ius "right, law" (just) + dicere "to say" (diction). We can talk (say) to ourselves or others about the judgments we make. Hence, being judgmental is making moral judgments. And most people don't like being told when their doing wrongs. That offends them.

So of course, when you tell someone they are doing something wrong, and they don't want to hear it, they are going to pull out the "judgmental" care to try to dismiss, invalidate, ignore, reject or deny what you said. Then they try to make it about you being wrong for daring to judge them: "who do you think you are?", "who are you to judge?" Well I'm me, and I can judge, just like you or anyone else can. That's reality.

We all judge everyday. We're analyzing, criticizing, differentiating, distinguishing, relating, corresponding and comparing. We use our intellect, intuition and conscience to discern, consider, weigh, distinguish, evaluate, asses, diagnose, associate, identify and draw sound conclusions from critical thinking and good sense, to determine what is right, good and true, compared to what is wrong, bad and false.

In a society of mind controlled conditioning to engage in wrongdoings while attempting to fabricate them into "rights," we can see how people like to shout "judgmental" whenever they can. They use this word to attempt to invalidate right from wrong because they are not living in alignment with right, good, truth, love, morality, etc.

People do not like to hear about the wrongs being done in the world, and certainly not about the wrongs they are a part of. So remember, whenever someone calls you "judgmental" because you are pointing out right from wrong, they are just trying to shut you up because they don't want to face what they're doing. It is that simple most of the time.

Anyone, who tries to invalidate or dismiss something you say by labeling it "judgment" or "judgmental" is essentially trying to manipulate you. They have no valid response. It's an attempt to disqualify the validity of what you say through emotional mind control of a word, "judgment", by representing it as a negative and therefore invalidate the argument. The only valid criticism on judgments is when they are 1) incorrect, inaccurate, or 2) based on appearances of other superficial aspects that have nothing to do with right or wrong.

Judging and criticizing someone who judges or criticizes is fine, but don't try to invalidate the right for everyone to judge. That's just a joke on yourself for trying to pull that on someone.

Here is a way to understand the importance of judging in life:

"As a consequence of identifying relationships between these polarized groups of information within different subjects, we also develop the capacity to form a wide-ranging perception of the world that encompasses a wide variety of topics and subjects. It develops within us the ability to take a "global view", much like the way interdisciplinary studies operate within academic institutions. This global view allows us to make connections between seemingly unrelated topics, make judgments, arrive at conclusions, and forecast things that one wouldn't normally be able to make with a more limited view."
- Source


If this interested you, see the previous post on Judgments


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I have argued a few times over this exact thing. Years ago I began responding to accusations of being judgemental with they were wrong, I was being discerning. I have even had self titled Christians tell me this when I would quote their book to them.

In a society of mind controlled conditioning to engage in wrongdoings while attempting to fabricate them into "rights," we can see how people like to shout "judgmental" whenever they can.

This is the part that has me worried. I have been investigating a lot of the mind control programs taking place since WW2 and sadly many of these people have so little critical thinking skills they blindly grab onto the slogans those pushing the degenerate hedonistic lifestyles offer them for use. I really desire peace, but these mindless drones of the system make themselves the enemy of all who treasure freedom and light by trying to force their darkness on others while crying about tolerance. What about having some tolerance for those of us who don't want to be degenerate or fund it.

Yeah, it's a sad state of low or non-thinking for many people. Automated responses that get triggered to try to defend themselves and keep themselves from facing the falsity :/ Hyper-tolerance is death of a society. Hedonism is a menace to the evolution of humanity. On the post I did about elite cannibalistic symbolism, a commenter told me what right do I have to judge their sexual acts, no one harmed, consent, etc. It doesn't change that it's a lower form of consciousness, even if no moral physical harm violation occurs. Some people can't see...

aristotle, apathy and tolerance last virtues of dying society.jpg

It is a normal human quality to judge. Pre - judge in fact. It is instinctive and everyone does it, it is part of our survival instinct to make instant appraisals. Being self aware and reflecting on your ideas, your thought process and the past experiences that influence the inferences that you arrive at can be insightful. We are in charge of our own judgement, we have the power to make a difference by analyzing our own automatic critique, but it requires commitment self analysis and not always pretty or easy. As far as convincing others of their bias, that can be a challenge. It challenges them on a very personal level.
We only see the world from our own perspective, generally a very concrete and fixed perspective, established over time as a result of experience or information / misinformation and continually reinforced.
Choosing to view the world from a different perspective and even attempt objectivity or an alternate point of view requires trust, intelligence, confidence and safety.
I'm not sure if these are inert enduring human qualities. I would like to think they are or could be, but history doesn't fill me with confidence. But maybe that is just my biased view, a direct result of my own judgment with reference to my own narrow experience and perspective.

Yup, automatic thinking, then deeper reflective critical thinking of ourselves and what we first thought of to see if our automatic first assessment is accurate enough or can be improved upon.

Trust, intelligence, confidence and safety as innate human qualities? Sure. We trust, we have to, as we can't verify everything others say. Society and cooperation is based on trust. We all have intelligence and confidence in certain degrees, and we all like to feel safe. Thanks for the feedback.

I’ve spent a lot of time thinking about this subject and feel that knowing when to be judgemental is so complex and needs to be used with caution. I recommend not judging anybody unless they specifically ask to be judged. We have no idea what others have been through, there mental well-being or what there capabilities are.

So because you can't know everything about a person you can't judge anything about them? ... lol. I don't think so. You can judge and be wrong, and they can tell you how wrong you are ;)

Sure you can but what’s the purpose?. There’s a difference between juding people and being judgmental. Most narcissistic people are judgmental and lack empathy. I personally choose not to associate with people who are highly critical and judgmental of others. But that’s just my opinion and choice. Everybody’s unique and will have there own preferences :)

There is no right or wrong answer...

I agree with your "judgement". I have been noticing that many people, including some lecturers, advise everybody not to judge, tha's absurd, that's denying an mportant right, our right to free speech. It's exactly what you call here as "the right for everyone to judge" Moreover, someone compared our behavior with a pencil, saying that, we all make mistakes (wrong writing) but we must fix and correct them (use the rubber) So if we don't judge, how can we find mistakes and improve our doings? --Thank you, Krnel, I enjoyed this point. (I upvoted you)

Absolutely! If you can't judge, or be judged, then you won't be able to get help to recognize mistakes if you can't see them for yourself. Improvement is something many don't like, especially "New Age" types who don't like it when you judge. They think they are already perfect and there is nothing to improve upon... sigh...

"Humans should develop within themselves the power to judge over good and evil and to correctly perceive all things, so that they may be wise and fair and follow the laws."

From the Talmud Jmmanuel

The laws are natural laws, such as, if I do X, it will make me feel good for Y, but it will hurt Z, or the law of causality, and also the golden law.

Good quote. I bought that book, rare to get, I think for like $80 or maybe $100 at one time thinking I needed to get it :P Then later I found it as a PDF... doh!

Yup, natural moral law as I try to specify it at times, but I usually just say moral law ;) Causality is part of the natural moral law, but causality is also part of natural laws that are void of a moral dimension ;)

If you want, post the PDF here, I'm sure many more will find it valuable.

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