Where Is The Plane Debris?

The chaotic evacuation — under the false pretext of another suicide kamikaze plane incoming — (which was repeated three times) could plausibly be how these FBI agents ostensibly may have planted the evidence, had photos taken, and then removed it so that no false, self-incriminating evidence would escape their control.

Remember the DEEP STATE’s Robert Mueller was head of the FBI appointed by the Neocon George Bush. And the 9/11 Commission was allegedly complicit in the perpetration of 9/11.

Don’t forget the complicity of the DEEP STATE in the manipulation of Russian year 2000 elections by entrapping Russian President Boris Yeltsin with a $7 billion bribe from the IMF to renovate the Kremlin. This is how former KGB Putin came to be President because he promised Yeltsin he could take care of the problem.

I replied (archived and archived):

Where Jim writes about Jews not being so interested in applied engineering and science, as compared to the theoretical and ideological pursuits, let’s note the claim that the bankster-Zionists-cabal are not orthodox Jews. They’re employing various forms of political and financial leverage to take control of the goyim who do that grunt work implicitly at their behest.

So Jim’s thought that the cabal is hostile to technological civilization is too strong of a conclusion, i.e. a non-sequitur. The environmentalism and Ted Turner save-the-earth (Georgia Guidestones) propaganda they promulgate are not necessarily their religion. Don’t conflate disinformation manipulation with someone’s religion. That’s a category error.

Jim argues that possibly we’re using Israel. Maybe the neocons suckered Mossad into doing the heavily lifting for 9/11 in exchange for our continued military alliance. The problem with that story is Antony Sutton’s research at the Hoover Institute which links the bankster-Zionist-cabal to being the money behind the strings leading to the Bolshevik revolution. Is Antony Sutton disinformation?

I don’t think said cabal is purely Jewish or even necessarily gives shit about the Jewish religion or the Jewish people. I always come back to physics and economics. They‘re an opportunistvirus that steps into the power vacuum of collective human organization and the prisoner’s dilemma it entails. This is why the blog I wrote yesterday is looking for technological solutions to ameliorate that implicit power vacuum.

I don’t believe the said cabal (or perhaps competing cabals) runs everything in the world. I suspect they’re quite busy trying to coexist with chaos and figure out how to both increase entropy while moving us towards a world governance and the destiny of the end times. Clearly Bitcoin was the work of a genius in that regard as you’ll understand if you read my linked blog.

Jim wrote:

If Jews ruled America, Hamas and the Palestinian Authority would be reduced to smoking grease spots in half an hour and the Al Aqsa Mosque would be flattened in a day. Therefore, the matador’s cape, not the matador.

Nonsense. The cabal surely understands that Israel must be persecuted at the end times. That shows you have a completely juvenile lack of understanding of the chess involved here.

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The entire way the Zionist state was brought about with Prescott Bush financing Hitler should raise some red flags.

I replied (archived and archived):

Jim wrote:

And Robert Mueller hates Mossad, and Mossad hates Robert Mueller.

Or Mueller wants you to believe he hates those who he actually is aligned with.

Dupes can only see [just] beyond the tip of their nose.

I replied (archived and archived):

Roberto replied:

I replied:

Jim wrote:

Again, I ask for a concrete and plausible explanation of how the Jews caused 9/11

The Jews did not. How many times have you been told by me and it should be obvious to you that your average Jew isn’t involved in the geopolitics.

There are powerful entities playing the Zionism card in their manipulation of the geopolitics (as you probably damn well know because you may be on their payroll). These powerful entities perpetrated 9/11, not some incompetent Muslim high-on-crack(ers).

And therefore, Islamic immigration to the West is a non-issue. It is not millions of Muslims who are invading and conquering Europe. It is millions of Mossad operatives who are invading and conquering Europe. Gotcha.

Remember all my posts are archived at archive.is/.org in case Jim starts censoring all or portions. How did you make the illogical leap from what I wrote to Muslim migration being a non-issue? Muslims can be entirely incompetent at tasks that require significant engineering and yet still be a threat to civil order when they’re up in your face with violence and breeding like rabbits while raping our women. And they can also be a threat when they are leveraged as scapegoats for false-flag operations that the global elite wish to obfuscate. Of course the powerful entities who are pulling the strings behind Merkel and other EU leaders want and enabled the rapefugees migrant invasion. They have even been trying to prevent other countries such as Hungary from closing their borders. The leader of Hungary has named George Soros as one of the culprits behind the curtain, but we all suspect that Soros is only a lackey and not the actual power behind the curtain. The real power is for example still apparently the Rothschild family. Note that Julian Assange was given an attorney who was paid by the Rothschild family. Assange from his posts way back on the Cyperpunks mailing list is clearly a globalist wolf in sheepskin. Also we find that Jim [aka James A Donald] was also involved in the mailing lists where Bitcoin was announced in a very peculiar pattern. Jim was the first to respond to Satoshi’s first public announcement (which nobody anticipated) within minutes on both mailing lists.

I replied (archived and archived):

Roberto wrote:

“The Jews did 9/11 conspiracy theory is retarded. Sorry. It’s embarrassing.”

Why are you changing the subject to some irrelevant strawman? Because you wish to ignore the facts about the physics and structural engineering and divert attention to some irrelevant topics.

About your Jew strawman, I explained up-thread (archived if deleted) that I am surely not claiming that the Jews did 9/11. I hope you are not dumb enough to equate the average Jew with sinister global elite (cabal) forces that could utilize select covert agents from within the Mossad.

I replied (archived and archived):

Steve Johnson replied:

I replied:

Reziac wrote:

On what happens to steel in a sufficiently-hot fire:

About 30 years ago in Los Angeles, a warehouse full of baled cardboard caught fire. (I knew what was in it, because I picked up boxes there when I worked downtown.) This warehouse was half a city block in size, full-width open truss construction. Basically, big steel beams and a steel shell, and nothing much inside but baled new cardboard.

The fire (which was televised from first smoke to the end; it was a slow news day) burned so hot that half an hour later, the entire building had been vaporized down to the ground — literally nothing left of it, not even significant scrap.

Raising strawman arguments is a disinformation tactic.

Here are some photos of a recent fire in a mall in Mindanao built out of steel and it burned for the entire day and night and you can see the result. I personally viewed that building every week until they finally demolished it. I can tell you that it was no where near totally collapsed.

We [know] damn well that the fires in the WTC were not hot enough to melt steel. We know that from the dark grey color of the smoke. NIST also confirmed the temperatures. Even NIST admits the jet fuel burned off in the first few minutes. So then all you had was some carpet and office furniture. And more importantly none of this flammable stuff was inside the elevator shafts where the 47 highly structural steel [beams] was[were] positioned more in the center of the building.

The salient issue is the physics and structural engineering of collapse if the steel did bend and weaken from the fires. And Jim censors that information because he knows damn well he is running a psyops disinformation campaign against white men. I strongly believe Jim is a paid interlocutor of the other global elite that hates us and want to enslave us. His themes play to our insecurities and weaknesses. He promises us entirely impossible nonsense such as returning to the 1800s. This is all designed to divide-and-conquer us.

“It was a controlled demolition with super hot burning nano-thermite”

This quote can’t be found any where on the blog posts of mine I linked to.

If that’s your lame attempt at a summary, then it surely doesn’t accurately summarize what is written at the blog posts I linked to.

“The fires weren’t even hot enough to melt steel as confirmed by NIST and satellite IR photo”

If that is your lame attempt to claim an inconsistency, you just fell face first flat on your low IQ face.

Anyone with a brainstem and some basic understanding of physics knows that something can be locally (with a short-term duty cycle) very hot such as thermAte to cut steel without causing the average temperature to be hot enough to melt steel. In other words, the themAte employed to cut the steel can be made to appear to be part of the average temperate of longer-time (i.e. not short duty cycle) burning office fires. This is just very fundamental simple physics that idiots do not understand.

Jim replied:

The Nist account is that the fires were not all that bad, but column 47 was already subject to abnormal stresses

Jim I was referring to the WTC twin towers. They had 47 vertical structural beams nearer to the center where the elevator shafts were. Those 47 beams were thicker than oak trees nearer to the bottom. It is absolutely impossible for all 47 of those to have been sliced into neatly sized lengths for carting away to China by a fire induced collapse. Period. Details are on my blog.

I replied (archived and archived):

Roberto wrote:

troofer reasoning

There are many disinformation agents promulgating complete nonsense in order to discredit those who are objectively and sincerely scouring for truth. By conflating the two distinct factions, you become a disinformation agent even if you weren’t paid to do so.

The discussion on this blog is inane and absurd. The discussion here does not have an academic tone nor quality.

I replied (archived and archived):

Kgaard wrote:

To me the most interesting theory is that of Judy Wood, as detailed in her book, “Where did the towers go?” Her analysis addresses the weird manner in which the towers did not so much fall as “turn to dust.” You can see the pieces disintegrating and vaporizing as they descend […] Her thesis is that an energy weapon was used to destroy the buildings.

Oh shit here come the disinformation kooks. Or their surrogates who are duped by Judy Wood.

I replied (archived and archived):

John Q Public wrote:

The more interesting question is WHY they dedicate so much time and effort to retailing these opinions.

To test if there is any non-disingenuous challenge to our search for the truth.

There are other goals also. Such as to doxx Jim as being the disinformation agent that I am becoming more convinced he is. He is employing psyops methodology.