All those who hold ENG, EM & EMFOUR please read. We must get organized.

in #ocd5 years ago

Feeling done over by Steem Engine at the moment? I definitely am and I know I'm not alone.

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Like you, I invested in the vision of Steem-Engine (SE) and the team behind it. Now most of the main SE team members have publicly declared they are not going to support Steem development or help it grow. SE are actively reducing the value ENG, EM & EMFOUR by doing so. It has been stated that Steem is no longer stable and that a market place will be built on the Hive blockchain, but NOTHING will be carried over. Instead, we are told that we will have to purchase their newly created utility tokens to operate on the Hive-engine.

Basically, telling everyone who is left holding bags of tokens by people that invested in SE products and services, to go where the sun doesn't shine!

Yet what I don't understand is SE collected all the Hive air drop for all the Steem they collected and haven't spent from SE product and service sales. May I also ask if the big early investor in SE to get things going, will be told to reinvest again in Hive-engine? I doubt it!

Since SE are more or less the same team as Splinterlands, when the game goes to the Hive blockchain, under the logic of what you are doing in SE, will every single Splinterland player have to start all over again and repurchase cards that solely rely on the Hive blockchain? I doubt it.

I am now reading the Hive-engine are going to be asking every single tribe, wanting to cross over to Hive, as the SE team are doing, to invest even more money for the priviledge of doing so. This after investing a lot in SE operations. SE Team members no longer purposefully trying to be witnesses on the Steem blockchain, therefore adding to the instability of that blockchain and therefore decreasing the value of all SE products and services.

I know the SE team members will feel justified in their actions, but from everyone listed below, who are your initial investors and who trusted you, now feel...shafted.

I ask everyone who is in the same situation as me to share this post, but also to write posts about the situation and tell the world to put pressure on the Steem Engine to give all of us some recourse. Recourse not being a post tell us “there is nothing we can do..”

If not, there are a lot of people who won't touch hive-engine services and products. Why would we? On another whim, you could just decide lose interest in the Hive chain and set up another shop elsewhere.

This is not on, as I know you are a firm believer in honor and respect. What you are currently doing is the complete opposite and is doing major damage to your reputation.

@intrepidsurfer

EMFOUR Stakeholders:

@kopasi @charimanlee @sct @bewarecenterbase @uzgo @ogma @glory7 @tradingideas @cinefilm @cjsdns @ssm1810 @coffeebuds @fantasycrypto @selfvotejustice @nrg @neoxian @eturnerx @zzan @accountsale @oldstone.sct @zzanbank @sonamoo @reggaemuffin @goodhello @ibk @asgarth @meanbees @cryptomancer @shanghaipreneur @ivansnz @aafeng @lonose @silverlining1 @bitcoinflood @kingbit @abrockman @kibumh @block.pal @stever82 @detlev @goldsteem @darrenfj @exyle @travelgirl @naha @wikinshui @buckdurddle @tomhall @jedigeiss @russia-btc @allcapsonezero @retinox @someguy123 @dkid14 @nobse @felander @rajib2k5 @eonwarped @champagnecrypto @tokenplay @pgarcgo @roger.remix @zedikaredirect @rishi556 @eirik @bosmob @earlmonk @kstop1 @cadawg @diverse @samsemilia @niel96 @eastmael @romiferns @bucipuci @kgakakillerg @bobby.madagascar @virtualgrowth @netaterra @hertz300 @jibspark @kgcoin

EM Stakeholders (@Steem-eng stake not included):

@zzan @cjsdns @buckdurddle @neoxian @nrg @astraea09 @dylanhobalart @taskmaster4450 @philihyuntd @netaterra @aggroed (1 EM) @harpagon (1 EM) @jongolson (1 EM) @hans001 @mcoinz79 @michealb @chrisroberts @carrieallen @revisesociology @igel2017 @allcapsonezero @bryan-imhoff @bewarecenterbase @felander @darrenfj @ogma @jjprac @bosmob @sn0n @willsaldeno @cadawg @zedikaredirect @eturnerx @bobby.madagascar @fmbs25 @cliffagreen @ivansnz @virtualgrowth @doggi99 @gmarket @a11y @snackaholic @holovision @block.pal @achim03

ENG Stakeholders (@Steem-eng or affliated team stake or under 1 ENG not included):

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@lootkit.games @firewall @barton26 @minloulou @lucashunter @steem-myanmar @sumotori @monstermother @jeronimorubio @marty-art @samotonakatoshi @neoxiantoken @take-a-break @saffisara @geekdancing @minnowsupport @gmarket @humanearl @ramires @dresden @awesomegames007 @chritoryan @galenkp @battlegames @queengift @luckyice @grey580 @champagnecrypto @minigame @hans001 @jibspark @rabihfarhat @meanbees @jongolson @helmibireuen @paulmoon410 @taskmaster4450 @alexandrp54321 @a11y @rollandthomas @evilindido @reyvaj @breezy3741 @tokenidustry @coincreator @travelgirl @v4vapid @igel2017 @aafeng @banguri @russia-btc @samsemilia7 @nateonsteemit @enial13 @yehey @dominion01 @niel96 @nashila17 @littlescribe @acromott @pichat @michelios @viktorcapulet @cryptobro1991 @vhhau @pab.ink @albertogm @buttcoins @buddhawjana @anikmertens @scienceblocks @dances @said8000 @drax @steemhandle @jimbi @solarphasing @manorvillemike @achim03 @davidamsterdam @hansdewet @teslastock @belkisa58 @asgarth-dev @knowledges @xstern93 @nexgen @kedi @suheri @rahim2012 @heretickitten @erick1 @jessamynnorchard @menkarbit @fantasycrypto @tbnfl4sun @monsterbuster @swayzilla @carlosmonroy @ozphil @tanbay @infowarslife @willsaldeno @kstop1 @bucipuci @erowid @muhammad.nafay @dalz @knircky @wayoutwest @alejandr0 @crimsonclad @wafrica @artzone @koyuh8 @nkrigoryev @steemengines @steemfeed @maclevis @steabluabeleno @bitandi @minerspost @travelsbyblue @markus.light @jacobts @maclevis @stealthtrader @lukestokes @imperij2374 @abdulalil.mbo …... plus many, many more holding under one ENG!

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I think it can be done in a few ways.
I think they can tell people to rebuy the tokens on Hive-engine. Now if that is the case, remove the withdraw fee. Also business to have created tokens, should not have to buy them again!

Yes, I agree they could buy back the tokens and let those businesses carry over into the new Hive blockchain tokens. Please resteem this post and write one yourself about the situation. Thank you.

Hi, i made a post recently about it: https://steemit.com/steem-engine/@intellihandling/steem-engine-gone-with-all-our-coins
As you can see i got an answer from @themarkymark that he use regulary the site, so we need to understand if there is a limitation in our regions...

All a big mess for everyone who invested in SE.

Wow... i missed all this. Yes i invested a lot in SE and the products. It seems only right that people should be able to swap that to Hive engine.
Why is tribes not able to swap in a similar way that communities seem to work on hive?

It is all a bit of a mess and a lot of people feeling shafted about. We have our logic, but SE team have theirs and have yet to budge.

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