More DV data + lists

in #newsteem5 years ago

A few more lists today in relation to posts lacking in engagement but earning well and a rough guide on the the Steem Power going into downvotes.


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A couple of days ago I posted some details on the number of downvotes being cast and the weight going into those votes. This was a bronze level assessment, and I've got silver for you today. Gold would be calculating the rshares of the downvote (based on voter SP and VP), but that is above my pay grade.

The table below shows the number of downvotes and total SP going into downvotes, using the weight of each vote and the SP owned by the voter.

e.g. If a voter had 1000 SP and cast a 50% downvote, that would be 500 SP added to the days total.

DateDV countSum SP
01/08/2019324238201285.08
02/08/2019310250220978.94
03/08/2019213418500761.21
04/08/2019252925504548.09
05/08/2019193953682105.3
06/08/2019164123931355.03
07/08/2019245212706916.37
08/08/2019244911878378.15
09/08/2019281222975507.76
10/08/2019279057913867.9
11/08/2019238318007327.38
12/08/2019182340716234.62
13/08/2019453444202576.33
14/08/2019446712093303.34
15/08/2019365523671233.57
16/08/2019552431880598.37
17/08/2019343154514820.73
18/08/2019335326199306.35
19/08/2019286365069441.09
20/08/2019315840821023.78
21/08/2019284141147076.29
22/08/2019233120013877.96
23/08/2019231628809341.57
24/08/2019208116752365.43
25/08/2019252230485880.92
26/08/2019261819055463.58
27/08/2019223549535781.1
28/08/20193810108613467.1
29/08/2019281051538791.54
30/08/2019259475731812.94

And the chart for the table above.

The daily vote counts are not breaking any records but the last 4 days the SP used has noticeably increased. It averages at 713 million and the first 26 days of the month average at 318 million.


The next table shows the unique accounts downvoting each day.

DateCount
01/08/2019208
02/08/2019168
03/08/2019175
04/08/2019168
05/08/2019138
06/08/2019133
07/08/2019119
08/08/2019166
09/08/2019167
10/08/2019172
11/08/2019163
12/08/2019124
13/08/2019137
14/08/2019120
15/08/2019214
16/08/2019171
17/08/2019157
18/08/2019192
19/08/2019163
20/08/2019128
21/08/2019143
22/08/2019134
23/08/2019123
24/08/2019143
25/08/2019182
26/08/2019170
27/08/2019231
28/08/2019449
29/08/2019366
30/08/2019334

The average over the first 26 days of the month (hf 21 took place on the 27th Aug) is 157 and over the past 4 days the average number of unique accounts casting a downvote is 345.


While not explosive, the number of accounts and the summed SP downvoting has increased but hasn't match the first full post fork day of the 28th.

It could be that the low-hanging fruit has been picked, if you assume this to be lower quality posts that were in trending and under the heavy influence of bots, and that this type of post not appeared in number since.

I have been told by a bid-bot operator that bids are down heavily and that they don't think 'many bots will survive this', and I've also seen bots 'gift' votes out to content without a purchase being made, presumably due to a high VP and a desire for curation earnings.


The first couple of days have, to me at least, shown the potential effectiveness of this portion of the EIP, there are certainly more areas other than trending in which rewards are being systematically drained from the pool.

In the post the other day, I also provided a list of posts that lacked engagement and had a high pending payout attached. Whilst this by no means assures the post is of low quality and deserves less reward, the list was at least a starting point and the contents were viewed by some as worthy downvote candidates.

And so here is an updated list.

Again, the '@' has been left out of the link so to not alert an army of upset campers - you will need to add the '@' to the link before the username

LinkCommentsPending_P_Value
link176.217
link175.892
link166.456
link156.404
link147.206
link146.715
link046.517
link146.497
link146.451
link145.82
link045.477
link043.639
link143.439
link142.806
link140.448
link139.565
link037.739
link137.428
link136.694
link036.586
link134.865
link134.449
link134.405
link133.778

And a small collection of high earners (pending payouts > 24 hours < 7 days) with little engagement other than accounts stating reasons for downvoting their content.

AccountTotal_P_PayoutsPostsComments
coldsiksu441.917255
taifkhan423.051622
bukdb376.3921372
sigizzang373.952213
insights328.5954616
onlyforyou212.15367
cryptoinvestsvk211.43784
piotrgrafik191.457616
tiffanykarney186.9981018
gwendolynbarrien186.452106
freemanhillyard185.813105
spencerhungate184.4931015
crystalliu182.928827
sameer777175.41412


Have a good weekend

Asher

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At first glance it may seem as if not a lot more downvotes are occurring post HF but I think it may be due to most abusers quickly having learned that we won't stand for their shit anymore and have backed down.

Especially the usual suspects who stopped posting in advance already. Next turn is for the farm voters and votetraders.

Agreed, and music to the ears of many :D

We need a bit of help with the second lot, though. Looking at the accounts and posts that @tarazkp posted about, there are many, and a co-ordinated approach would have more effect, rather than random downvoting.

We are working on how to handle this right now actually. Check for a resteem of mine soon.

Lovely, thank you.

Great! Can hardly wait for this. Looking forward.


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i have more of a beef with auto voters then good people using bots responsibly.

Maybe because I know how easy and lucrative it can be. Monkeys can do it, just ask me :)

I auto-vote @steembasicincome so I don't miss any - I also sometimes forget to vote after leaving a comment - I read SBI posts when I see them in my feed and usually have something to say (or click away to a contest they are promoting!!) . (upvoting their posts increases my rshare upvote balance!)

And I auto-vote the curation trail of the community accounts which I am a curator of - at a low VP weight (@helpiecake and @c-cubed)

With 10+ accounts curating multiple tribes, I'm using auto-voters to some degree. Sorry!

I would move your beef to farming auto-voters - check taraz's post out for just one example.

will do thanks, and yes i understand why.

Are you back in blighty? Quite good work here. I find myself wishing my downvote mama same so easily depleted!

Yep, back under the grey. Booo

DV mana goes out like a light eh!?

Aw, just as it is turning right sucky!

It does, it's fair old working though

Thank you for the list. always helpful to know where to direct attention.
I was a bit disconcerted that two posts I've downvoted have increased in value - just coincidence or something to do with the curve?
Some of the posts in the list are getting large votes from @oracle-d and @threespeak. Again, disconcerting.

Direct attention - that's a good way to term it, these are only lists :)

I was a bit disconcerted that two posts I've downvoted have increased in value - just coincidence or something to do with the curve?

I don't think it's related to the curve - perhaps caching or more votes added since page load.

Some of the posts in the list are getting large votes from @oracle-d and @threespeak.

I think these will be ones to have reservations about downvoting. These are likely users with large followings outside but have yet to gain traction here. You choice though of course :)

I've just been playing about with my downvote power... I have 10 free downvotes a day now? Is that right?

I thought it was 2 a day, or have I missed something?

It's 2.5 a day at 100% - 10 at 25%.
They're the free ones - you can downvote more and use your upvote VP.

I'm sure i just gave out 4 100% DVs and lost 0 upvote power?

Very strange.

It's alright i figured it out - 2.5 a day IF i want my VP to actually recharge up to 100% - I was working on 10 or so taking it down to 0, somehow forgot to factor that 'keep it above 80%' rule in!

Ah, okay :) So much to think about. That's before we get anywhere near steem-engine!

Yeah you should probably take a day off to maximize effect :)

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Nice stats.

Only 300 unique accounts downvote on a regular basis?

I think I got a small gift vote from appreciator. I was wondering what that was about.

Steem really is nowhere in social media terms!

Gift votes are nice eh - welcome to the future of curation, i hope :)

I can't see what's in it for the bot owners?!? They'll switch to something else I'm sure!

The effects are showing quickly, it's good news!

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