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Whenever my dad said it, I never got the feeling that we were idly chatting :) I'm surprised your wife didn't know it either...I wanted a different choice because I thought that one was a given, but I just couldn't think of another one :)

Yeah me too, I have a very Western vocabulary and use of idiomatic expressions and have always thought the chewing the rag was like chewing the fat and is idle chatter.

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