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RE: Knowing when to step in

in #life5 years ago

I think you did good man - something you can both be proud of together. Sorry it's been a while since I checked in, good to hear you have some time with your son.

Totally unrelated and not my business so you can tell me to p1ss off if you want, but did you send 60 STEEM to get 72 SBD back? Perhaps you left a few SBD there but if not, the Internal market here is slightly better I think - 60 STEEM for 76 SBD right now.

Take it easy, Ash.


He's crashing bots intentionally (?) for some reason. Huge bids on many bots. Just came here to see if I could see why. Hopefully reason will prevail.

Crashing? Huge bids are not uncommon, or do you mean the value has gone and the bids are going into negative ROI?

Way negative.

I am seeing this a lot now, and looked at someone else I saw do this the other day. The large bid at the end comes in at 80%+ of the total vote value. You can see this in the sleeplesswhale comment on this post.

The other person bid 80%+ of the vote value on about 10 bots for one post. They already were pretty full when the big bids came in. It seems like it is only on the bots that accepts bids at -0- minutes after posting. That other person is using some kind of service for bidding and told me he sent too much money, but it's on all his recent posts. I think it might be a way to mess with the curation percentage(?) It makes no sense otherwise to lose money on purpose on every bid.

I'm in there all the time - this is a new twist in the last weeks. There are maybe 10 people doing it now. I'm only on the small bots and do not know about the big ones.


Being out of the Bot game has certainly eased frustration for me.

Many big bidders don't care about ROI - Bots are promotional tools after all, and promotion should cost the buyer.

I'm bummed with bots for a few reasons:

Look at all the front runners these days - they don't care about the content, only ROI - front run a Bot at 1 min though, and you won't be getting much curation.

2nd, it's a reward pool, for rewarding content. And now, it's for sale. This was not how it was intended, and if everyone put their stake up for sale, how would that look? If a competitor can avoid this, and keep their pool clean, goodbye Steem.

Am I selling? Nope. Am I thinking with my heart and not my head? Perhaps.

Many, many of the larger people who used to vote on my posts are now delegating to bots instead. They only keep 500+ sp to have the slider - or have delegated all and stopped posting entirely. My steemdunk is almost empty of posts. I am shocked by some of the people who are gone now.

The issue with this "bot crushing" strategy is that it kills a bunch of other people at the same time who were also trying to boost their posts. The other person I looked is doing this on promo-steem posts!!!! The irony!

I've always been a content creator here and never an investor except in time. I might not last much longer. I made the mistake of watching some videos about steemit from other content creators who left, and from people who do not like the model in the first place. Then I took a look at trending for the first ever time in a year here. Big mistakes to look in those places in terms of my motivation.

I think my biggest mistake was posting minnow tips all year. The only people who care about them are minnows, and they are dying fast now. I should have done the "suck up to the whales" strategy, but that is not in my nature and I still do not even know who most of the whales are.

Now I am trying to pick up the wreckage of my other projects not-on-steemit, and I sure do regret dropping them now.

@fitinfun Not to sound ignorant at all.. but I never paid attrntion to the ROI and i didn't mean to mess up anything for you or anyone. You have my apologies. Next time before using the smartsteem service I'll make sure I'm not burning anyone else I hate to sound uninformed but truth of the matter is i am uninformed so I will make sure to get up to speed. As a token of my actions feel free to use my upvote bot and he will always 100% percent any post you submit for the next week if you send in the bare minimum and though his SP isnt quite as high as others each one of the bots team members will also review and upvote you at 100 % as well @echowhale
Again my apologies @fitinfun didnt mean to mess up anything.

Oh my goodness. Thank you so much. I saw your posts and thought you could not be doing this on purpose, but there is a lot going on I do not understand. I see your votes for my posts right now and I am so grateful.

I wrote a post awhile ago to show people how to use the bots and not waste money. I hope you like it and do better for yourself on the bots.
How to use bidbots without killing them

We do not have a lot of options here these days. I will look at your bot and see if I can do it. Thank you very much for the offer.

Thank you again. You restore my faith in humanity at a really low point.

@fitinfun though we may not know each other at all, I must say it bothers me that you say restore your faith in humanity.. whats got you down? The bidbot stuff or is it something else?

That is very kind of you! I suspected you and others are not 'Bot crushing' on purpose. When your post is finished, you send a bid I guess.

Most people are not doing this on purpose. I contact a lot of people when I see this, and they did not know what they were doing. In this case, I thought I had reached out before, but now I see I had not.

In the case of the people going big in the first 15 minutes - SOME of them are trying to alter the payout percentage. If they can get a lot of votes in the first 15 minutes, the post will pay out with less than 15% for the curators. More for them - less for the people who vote for them. But most of those people only have bot votes anyway.



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@abh12345 hey man.. its definitely been a good minute I hope all is well on your side. As for your question yeah I did thanks for the heads up man I definitely appreciate it.

Ah cool, glad to help.

Yeah it's going ok over here, I've had better fathers days - hopefully that will happen again in the future.

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