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RE: The Steemit Oscars - Communities of November 2021
I love statistics. You did a great job.
Apparently in every community there are people who use bots. Too bad the steemcurator allows it.
Accept my vote for @endingplagiarism.
Sure, in almost every community there are bot users although some of them are based almost exclusively on bots votes, in others it's just a small percent of the users. I excluded two communities when it was obvious that pending rewards are caused in 80%+ from bots used by one or two people.
I assume there is not much more what could be done by SC team to stop it. Club5050 was a good idea - I can see that many people stopped using bots because of that. Sure, those who are double orcas + and who used it before won't be interested in SC upvotes and will continue delegating to upvu or tipu, but many smaller users started to play fair.
I love stats too. It's time consuming to make that kind of stuff, but very satisfying for me :)
Your vote is noted. Thanks!
I do not agree here. SC has the power of downvote. And it can be used against those who use bots. Rules are required. Maybe some bots are useful, but when you get an upvote worth $ 600 for a photo of a flowerpot, it's not right. We will all receive a reward from one pool. Bots just take away most of it. And the author of a great quality article, for which he spent two days, can not overcome the barrier of two cents.
And with #club5050, unfortunately, nothing can come out. Small users will earn more SP and then delegate it to the bot and have a stable income.
And why did anyone come up with the possibility of delegation at all. Hence all the evil.
Bots are a cancerous tumor of Steemit.
I will agree and disagree with you at the same time :)
Yes, I do hate bots and I believe it's a cancer of this platform. It's against all what Steemit supposed to be and a 400 dollars upvotes for the photo of the bed with two sentences of the description (example from the platform, not from my head) is even less than the celebration of mediocrity. I'm afraid that the platform may stop existing in a couple of years if upvu or tipu will not be eliminated (I already know users who left the platform because of that injustices).
BUT... SC team has VP worth 387 usd. Down vote VP is equal 50% of upvote VP so they could take 193,50 USD to 10 people daily, 1930 USD in total. Only one upvu distributes 11 000 usd daily not to mention nutbox, tipu, peanut and others. Theoretically the whales who use upvotes could also react by down voting what SC team upvoted before and making normal users to be unable to earn anything on the platform.
I don't know how does it work but maybe it could be somehow banned without using down votes. Like closing the accounts of bots. The problem is that then China and Korea would leave the platform immediately. Those two countries uses Steemit not as the blogging platform but only to make rich people even richer. The thing is that they also help to boost the STEEM value because they power-up more than Pakistan, Venezuela, Bangladesh and Russia all together (and they always will). I may be wrong but I can imagine that banning bots, if possible at all, would make the value of STEEM drastically drop for a few months (imagine all those whales powering down)... It could totally kill the platform or not... Nobody knows.
I don't see any solution from the situation with the upvote bots. I'm glad #club5050 was introduced. That's the first step. Now it's time to think as the community, as all steemians about other steps - not only related to power-ups but some solution that will help to balance the platform and distribute bigger income to the authors that bring quality to this portal so earning 200-300 usd per post could be possible without the upvotes too.
We need more honest, fair whales, but becoming a whale without buying steem and using bots is a lifelong process...
Edit: Honestly, I don't want to play smarter than I am. I don't know how it all works, so just writing what I feel that might be the main problem that cause bots are still legal. Still - it's only my impression. There is like 98% of the chances that I'm wrong in some way ;)
You have convinced me of almost everything. It is clear that you have a deeper understanding of this issue.
Please take a look at this article of mine: https://steemit.com/hive-185836/@o1eh/steemit-economy-current-trends
As you can see, in just eight months, the number of SPs delegated to bots has almost doubled. By the end of next year, this figure could reach 25%. Very soon "I just write because I like it" will not help.
I really hope that the new initiative #club5050, #club75 and #club100 will help, but unfortunately I don't really believe in it.
However, as long as there are people like you, your community, xpilar and his community and a few others, we still have some chances.
You tagged a great article. More scary than American Horror Story I've watched yesterday...
Yes, that's why I think Steemit has maximum two more years to disappear if we won't find the solution for bots. I'm not sure if someone from the management will want to cut the bots totally. Unfortunately plans for the future are not shared with the users so we don't know what SC team wants to do. I choose to believe there are some plans though, I do trust SC team (if I'd lose my trust, probably I wouldn't be here anymore).
Thank you for your kind words about me and my community. That's truly good to hear. I'm very lucky that you are the member of Steem-Travelers. As you know, longer discussion in the comments is not very common on Steemit, especially out of WoX or Travelers communities.
:)
I think so too.
They will not want. But if they set some restrictions for bots, it would be great.
If you are interested, I have an article about it: https://steemit.com/hive-185836/@o1eh/the-future-of-steemit
After the initiative #club5050 appeared, I also believed in this team. But I do not think that the decisive word is behind them.
Sometimes it seems to me that I tire people with long chats :)
The only chats that make me tired are millions of "good post" messages. The real debate is always appreciated ;)
Oh yeah! There are really millions of them here :)