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RE: HF21: What Makes Steem Valuable?
Maybe what people need to see is an example of it actually working, not just talk about it. There's been a lot of talk over the last three years. Not many success story examples.
There's also the downvote UI issue I mentioned in my post. Any serious content producer wouldn't touch this place at all if they thought one person could come along and hide the content they worked so hard on.
What are your thoughts about that being a big part of the problem why serious content producers don't waste time with Steem?
Did you even read that stuff? Skim? Couldn't grasp it? Can't see how it already works? Plenty of examples. I used music in one, to be able to tap into a few billion. Blog posts/magazines what's the difference? So there's a few more billion. The fact is people spend money on entertainment. It's fact. What examples are you missing? Just look outside.
So the other day, sometime this week, another top twenty witness insulted me. Do you realize what you just said? Since I reacted poorly to the insults earlier in the week, I've learned my lesson and will not snap.
Again. Luke. I want to stress the fact that I can respect you. I have no issue with you as man, at all.
For nearly three years, I've been watching so many witnesses in top positions put their disconnect on display. Do you truly know what goes on here?
What makes you think I'm not a serious content producer? Do you even realize you just insulted me?
I'm looking for examples on Steem. That's what really matters. If your premise is correct. show me examples of where it has worked with Steem. Just saying it can work doesn't accomplish anything. Yes, we know many things can work, but what is working?
I ran a business for ten years. Ideas are cheap. Implementation is everything. Pointing to other industries and saying "We can do that here also. Millions and billions!" is not reality. Real examples here on Steem is reality. Make that happen, and I'll better understand what you are saying. Until it does, it's just more opinions and ideas with no implementation leading to actual results.
I have no intention of insulting you, but if your premise is correct, shouldn't you be a working example of how the price of STEEM is increasing because you are here adding value? By serious content producer, I was referring to your examples of the millions and billions of dollars available in the media and entertainment industries. These industries involve millions of people and their millions of dollars. No cryptocurrency project has been able to do that, let alone Steem.
To me, your ideas and the reality of what Steem actually is today is equally disconnected.
I think most of us see the potential. It's why I invested ~9 BTC into Steem when it was around $3/$4 years ago. I saw this as a technology which would take over the world and become a global phenomenon used by every media outlet on the planet. It didn't happen.
Luke. Be quiet.
This isn't what you say to someone who wants to invent the car. "Well maybe if someone else invents the car, and I see it running, then I'll believe you."
Luke. You've frustrated me beyond words today. Blah. That's all I got.
In your interactions with me, you seem to describe your frustration and how no one seems to understand what you are saying over and over again.
Henry Ford didn't talk about inventing a car for mass adoption.
He went and did it.
I'm simply saying go and do it and then maybe people like me will understand what it is you're trying to communicate, and you won't be frustrated all the time at our lack of understanding.
Luke. Be quiet.
You come to my blog leaving your comments on my post and then tell me to be quiet. Ugh.
There's simply too much to get into to be able to explain, current issues with the platform that need to be resolved, a playing field that needs turf. Many of these things require a community effort. You've insulted me, shot me down, doubled down on those insults, already proven you're unwillingly to listen. There's no LUKE in team. Therefore, there's no point in having a discussion. You've been disrespectful and that's why you should just be quiet, so it stops, because I don't want to hear it. If you can't respect that, it's because you're disrespectful.
I'm not a disrespectful person. Those who actually know me, know this. Admittedly, I sometimes say things the wrong way and offend people unintentionally, but I just re-read our dialogue here, and I really don't see what was so justifiably offensive to you. You misunderstood my meaning of "serious content producers" and took it as personally offensive.
Disagreeing with someone's points and not preferring their delivery isn't an insult or "shooting them down" IMO. I agree with your premise that the Steem ecosystem would benefit from more content consumers being entertained by valuable content they want to reward in order to see more. That's not a new idea and was mentioned in the original white paper along with how important it is that this can be obtained with an upvote and no loss aversion associated with having to pay for content. This has been said again and again since the very beginning. I read your content and didn't see anything new to me which is what you implied was there.
Maybe we just have completely different personality and communication styles. If you come to my blog and leave comments on my posts telling me I'm disconnected, I will respond in kind. If my approach offends you, please be open to chalking it up as a different style of communication. I mean no offense. No one is entitled to respect. Not preferring someone's approach is also not the same thing as disrespecting them, IMO.
If I see your writing style or your art and am told I should read it and think, "I don't prefer that" is that disrespect? I don't think so. It would be different if I was just passing by, looking at your blog posts. To comment there uninvited and share my personal opinions could be considered disrespectful, but it's also just the result of putting your art on display. Taking that personally doesn't make sense, IMO. For you to come here and say read these posts, the wisdom they contain, and the answers within is a different story. From my perspective, I'm simply disagreeing that something new is being said and you're choosing to take personal offense at that.
I started out my post linking to this for a reason.
If you do care to get to know and understand me, telling me to be quiet in the comments of my own blog is not a way to earn my respect.
I wrote a response to yabapmatt(spelling?) I don't know why you're rambling about this other stuff. Do you see any benefit here, other than trying to make me look bad and yourself look good? Get over it man.
You told me to be quiet and go do it. Without even giving me a chance to explain the things you're missing. And now you're pouting because I told you to be quiet.
I gave you, exactly what you were giving me. That's only fair. Get over it.
I did no such thing.
This, I did do. If you have it all figured out, and you're frustrated people here don't understands you, then my recommendation is going to be take action and show us what you mean.
Go ahead and explain, but what from what I've seen so far, I'm still having trouble understanding your perspective. As I said earlier, it's possibly due to a communication and style difference of preference. I'm not mad at you in any way.
Yes.
And here's my response to this strange little troll underneath me.
https://steemit.com/life/@nonameslefttouse/why
LOL you are way off here!
Dude, leave. Social media on a blockchain is about free speech, so don't tell people to be quiet or anything like that. Respect free speech or go back to Twitter.
According to your logic, it's perfectly fine for me to say, "Be quiet."
I believe you have a right to speak, yes, but you clearly indicate that you are the type of person that tries to silence others. That can be done on Twitter, after all, that company loves that kind of stuff. Steem is suppose to be a rejection of that mentality, the mentality I see from your comments.
I respect your right to free speech, you should start respecting the free speech of others.
You clearly indicate you are the type to judge and come to conclusions about someone based upon two words. I also don't give a fuck what you think.
And you say that right after telling me to leave. If you want to bitch at me, get your act together. Stop being a hypocrite.
This, unfortunately, is why you and I have had such negative interactions on this thread. IMO, there are better approaches.
I do make conclusions about people based on what they say, but it wasn't just two words. It was the repeating of those two words, but also that I took the time to read your comments and found them wildly out of line.
Maybe the word "serious" next to the words content producers offends you, but come on, we all know what he was trying to say. I'm not saying you are not a hard-working content producer, but until this little chat, I don't think I've read or saw a single thing from you. He meant "well known" content producers, like Tim Pool or Joe Rogan. No reason to silence the guy over such a small difference in wording.
I urged you to leave, that doesn't mean I want to silence you. I just find someone with your mindset (my assumption of your mindset) to likely be happier in a place like Twitter where people think the way I believe you to think.
My response has everything to do with why I think anyone would care to put a social media platform on a blockchain: censorship-resistance/free speech. Thus, I assert that telling someone to "be quiet" is quite the faux pas among a community of crypto nerds.
At the same time, I am a staunch devotee to free speech, so, yeah, I might take extra offense to people trying to quiet other people's viewpoints. He has a view that is not yours, get over it.
You know, if you really don't like listening to the ideas of some people, there is a nifty little thing called a mute button. I respect your right to mute me or anyone else. What I don't respect is people trying to get someone to stop saying what they have to say to other people.
Peace & love