A World Where Not Reporting an Illness is a Crime
There is an interesting new series called Counterpart. It's about a parallel Earth or universe, where things are slightly different on the other side compared to ours. An event in the past created two worlds from one, where the two worlds diverged and went on different paths from that point on.
The setting we see in both worlds is Germany, where the parallel realities are kept secret from the public world, but Visas are issued to allow certain people to travel form one world to the other.
They apparently have no climate change like we do, the oceans are clean it seems, and they have a high level of development in fighting diseases and illness. They have cures for things we don't, apparently from the development of vaccines.
The part about fighting illness is what I want to show regarding how controlled and fearful the other world has become of illness.
To watch a movie at the theater, they show a public service announcement about reporting illness or face the consequences:
"With winter in the air, there's never a more important time to update your inoculations. You can do it with your physician, or at the nearest clinic. Bring your friends, bring your family."
"And remember, when we let ourselves be vulnerable to disease, we put our loved ones at risk."
"If someone you know is showing symptoms of illness and isn't seeking help, you must report this to your neighborhood clinic."
"Failure to report the illness of your loved ones is punishable by fine, jail sentence, and possible quarantine."
Personal health is public health."
People walk around with face masks:
They also put their hands through disinfecting stations periodically, in fear of getting sick, which would force them to report themselves for sickness.
Because if you don't report yourself for being sick, you're a criminal who has failed to report your sickness/illness.
If you buy a new home, you're encouraged to get a disinfecting team to ensure there isn't any risk of contracting any illness.
One traveler coming back from our world brings back some cigarettes, and forgets to declare it at the other world's customs. He is then taken into custody for possible quarantine or punishment.
Everyone in this other world may be forced to take vaccines under law in order to fight the threat of illness or disease.
I find the portrayal of this alternate world foreshadows some troubling aspects of our own world and times we live in, where people are increasingly becoming fearful of getting some sickness, illness, or disease. There is an increasing demand for the support of vaccines regardless of any potential harm that is demonstrated, to even champion forcing people to get vaccinated against their free will choice to not have vaccines injected into them or their children.
Yesterday I did a post about gossip having its use for evolutionary purposes. It would seem that in this alternate world, gossip about someone's health condition would be used in an evolutionary capacity (so to speak), so as to promote survival of the species, coming from a position of fear of humanity becoming extinct from being wiped out by some illness or disease.
What do you think about such a world?
Is this a world you would like to live in?
When does our free will choice to not have things injected into us get thrown out the window, where centralized authorities get to decide things for us?
Have your say, speak your mind.
Thanks for reading :) Peace.
Hmm, I wouldn't really like to live in a world where not reporting and illness is a crime and being forced to take vaccines doesn't sound attractive either. I believe that vaccines cause more problems than help, but hey, everyone has their own opinions!
I agree for the most part. But some vaccines outweigh the dangers for the benefits they provide, but not all. Thanks for the feedback.
Sounds like a cross between big brother and the Twilight Zone. When ideas like this are introduced through movies, shows, theater or other media, it gives us a heads up as to where the elite shadow government want to go. This is my body and I should and will decide how I will treat it's health. Let them put me in jail or charge me. I will do as I wish. Some of us do not and will never believe in vaccinations. This is just an extension of that war. Thanks for sharing this as It could come to pass in our lifetime.
Indeed, well said.
Fortunately, such a world cannot exist.
The reality is that every disease exists within you, right now.
If we had accurate enough tests, we would find every disease already in your system. (so why aren't you sick?)
Sterilization has been shown to actually make diseases more prevalent. Super bacteria able to withstand treatment are now common.
Super-diseases are common in hospitals, the supposedly most sterilized place.
And we haven't even gone into why people get diseases.
But, the important part is the reporting on your neighbors mentality that runs through that dystopian culture.
That is one of those destructive things where govern-cement have placed themselves in the role of parents, and the people have been indoctrinated to believe they are doing the correct thing in snitching, and that is what "good people" do.
I hope this show has these "good people" getting thrown into the system.
Good points, thanks for the feedback.
Oh my goodness...ok, trying not to swear...hard to do...
This is definitely reeking of more conditioning humanity/predictive programming.
Yes it could be, some people might see it as a negative while watching, while others confound the issue along with "climate change", pollution of oceans, low illness, etc. and see it all as one big better alternate world... programming indeed ;)
It does seem to portray some aspects of our own world.
Whenever I see people disinfect their hands at every opportunity and whatnot, I think about how they're weakening their own natural immune response and setting themselves up for a bigger downturn when they (inevitably) do catch something.
Similarly, I don't think we'd actually be helping ourselves to obsess over disease in a collective way like this. There's a blowback to it.
Right, that's the part that's so twisted. It's not enough to have their opinion of what the best/healthiest thing is; they actually are saying they want to control what other people choose to do with their bodies.
Never, of course. If there truly was a need to be vaccinated (or any other similar issue) you could solve it thru reputation and ostracism.
"If you don't get vaccinated, you can't join this community of people who want everyone to be vaccinated" -- Fair.
And then if it's true that vaccination is a good thing, this norm would win out as it becomes clear that these are the healthiest people.
So there's a way to live amongst only people who are vaccinated, but it requires voluntary choice.
Ironically, the top-down ordering of everyone to be vaccinated will never work anyways. You'll never get absolutely everyone to do it with no one slipping thru the cracks. So as far as having the totally pure society where everyone is vaccinated-- there's actually no way to accomplish it by fiat, whereas you potentially could thru voluntarism (it just becomes a question of whether it's actually true that vaccines are good).
Indeed. That's partially how superbugs got created as well ;)
Yup, voluntarily association in communities, and letting reality demonstrate the veracity of claims would be much better, as the most free and moral option. Voluntary non-harm creating interactions for the win!
Now this is an interesting question and I will certainly watch this!
I don't think vaccines have been shown to be really dangerous and I feel a lot of the fear of them not really based on the data we have about them. But the question of how much one is willing to limit freedom for the public good still stands and weights a lot.
Living in a world where sickness is much rarer sounds like a great thing to me, even if you have to disinfect your hands regularly and wear a mask. The antiutopia and danger start taking shape only when your freedom to make your own mistakes becomes much more limited. We are a species of risk takers and we need to be allowed to take some risk. I really don't know where the balance on that scale is when it comes to health. I would certainly say that when your actions endanger the health of others, you have some responsibility and liability should not be out of the questions. Now is just being sick enough of risk for others to significantly hamper your freedom. I don't know and in many cases I would say no. But possibly not in all.
On the scientific side of things, not being exposed to any germs would probably leave our immune systems less developed and therefore more vulnerable. A world that's absolutely disinfected would be full of allergies and autoimmune disorders.
There already are a number of mandatory re-portable illnesses that doctors have to report to the government if they come up positive in a test.
Indeed there are. Some things are very serious, while others less so.
Truely, personal health is public health because a personal ailments could turn out to be contagious if not curtailed. Reporting one's sickness to the authorities should be seen as a public service.
Yes, in some cases, like having the black plague or what not... but for a mere cold... it's overkill.
I like series or movies who make me think, who leave you with many questions. Counterpart looks like one of those.
I will try to watch it.
Cool, give it a go, I like shows like that too :) Thinking and figuring things out is fun!
In ever increasing population even diseases of same mortality cause ever increasing number of deaths, not to mention always evolving flue and superbacterias, emerging due to excess usage of antibiotics.
I see increased health surveillance as a good thing to fight this. What are the other ways?
Where do you think superbacteria came from? Hyper-focus on getting sick, antibiotics and anti-germ lotions made bacteria resistant to it all...
Well excess use of antibiotics is one factor for sure. But on the other hand people can't afford to get sick, so they keep going to work and spreading potentially evolved bacteria.
Reporting that you are sick means less income and it's against human nature to shoot in one's leg.
Also we can't stop using antibiotics because we would return to dark ages where pneumonia was a death sentence.
What other solutions would you see?
Incorporating homeopathics and naturopathic medicine into first-line therapy can help to increase antibiotic efficacy and decrease the need for them.
But why then US law requires to mark homeopathic products as having no healing effect?
Because they are bought off by pharmaceutical lobbies and are over invested in the materialistic worldview.
Homeopathy works. India wouldn't treat it equally with western medicine if it didn't. Nor would it have lasted this long if it didn't.
I am not so sure about its magic. Especially after reading how diluted they are (sometimes even a single molecule of active substance is not found in homeopathic dilutions).
Yeah, so what? Homeopathics don't work in a pharmaceutical mechanism.
The point is that they work. You can't tell someone who was obviously helped by a homeopathic that it is just a placebo effect just because homeopathy doesn't fit into your worldview.
Have you ever gone to see a homeopath? Or studied homeopathy?