Barn Owners Vs The State

in #freedom5 years ago

In 2017 it's estimated that 15 percent or more of American couples had decided to hold their wedding reception in a barn or at a farm.

While some people might not ever imagine themselves getting married in a barn, for others it's a dream come true.

And this inexpensive party venue is reportedly a growing favorite for many couples getting married in the United States today.

lawsuit over liquor...

Now, a group of wedding barn owners have launched a lawsuit against one governor and his administration over the issue of liquor licenses.

Those behind the lawsuit are looking to have the judge determine whether or not the state's liquor laws should apply to private barns that are being rented for private parties; liquor is not being sold at the event.

Fees for these liquor licenses can range anywhere from $15 to several tens of thousands depending on the establishment you're trying to obtain the license for.

The lawsuit is arguing that the private property barn space doesn't automatically become a public property space because it is being rented out to members of the public. The lawsuit asserts that if this were the case then we would assume that hotel rooms and apartments would also be classified as public spaces.

For some farmers, being able to convert their barn area into a venue that can be rented out for weddings has been a move that's been able to save them financially. They admit that having to obtain a liquor license greatly discourages them from wanting to continue doing business like they have. At the moment, it's also reported that the Department of Justice has been reviewing the lawsuit.

In a matter where an individual who owns a barn is renting that property out under a certain voluntary contract to another party, no third party is justified to intervene in that exchange, executing their control by insisting that fees are paid and permissions obtained first before the exchange can be carried out. How are we free if we cannot be free to determine how we use our own property in a peaceful manner?

Currently, state law maintains that a license is needed for liquor being allowed at a public space but there is disagreement over the definition of what constitutes a “public space”. The lawsuit hopes to clarify the confusion over what a "public space" is and hopefully the ruling will uphold the rights of individuals to use their property without having to get a license and pay fees beforehand.

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I would argue that a bar is still just a private establishment that is only conditionally open to public access, and thus not a "public space" either.

I find it an interesting idea and a new experience. Inexpensive and in the middle of the community. Well we are not free, because whatever idea people come out with, the government will look for benefits. So better to drink liquor secretly or out in the field :D But they will still find out a way to cash money from us :(

We have long been aware that governments only seek to benefit from certain laws. The fact that these farmers have to pay a license for the liquor is a way of taking their money, or earning them something. If we look behind many new laws, we realize that many of them are prohibitive and against essential freedoms. How is it that in order to consume liquor in a property you have to have a license. And if the farm does not want to continue with the organization of parties, what does it do with the license? After these, what can we expect? We know that the liquor and tobacco industry pays large amounts of taxes to countries! It seems that there is not enough money in the pockets.

This one is interesting.

While I can see the rights of the barn owners being threatened, I can also see how allowing a business to be run on private property as a contradiction. Are the farmers obtaining liability insurance? Claiming the income for the purpose of taxes? Is a barn zoned for a private gathering of that size in the context of a business arrangement?

If I was a farmer, for sure I would fight this to get the governments thumb out of my pie. Paying the devils advocate, I can see how a liquor license would be needed so that some modicum of control. 2.3 millions weddings I. The USA every year(?!?!) means 200,000 large scale barn parties where they are not even selling booze butt giving it away free?

Interesting to see how this turns out!

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advocating for the state in any way to intervene would be advocating for violence👍 of course "safety" is always their go-to when violating the rights of others. We should know better by now.

Again, there is nothing here except that govern-cements want more money. They also like added control.

Like the local fire department collecting fees at the farmers market... although they are rarely there. They don't inspect anything. And there has never been a fire. And if there was, it would burn itself out on the asphalt.
So, why is everyone having to pay more?

Further, i hate the notion that govern-cement can take away a right, and then sell it back to y ou.

Wow. Actually this is strange for me to hear, how can wedding be taken place in a barn or farm

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