Does Sam Seder have a concept of ethics?

in #freedom6 years ago


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I don’t know (not familiar with him) but it’s a funny question coming from someone who doesn’t recognize property as property

I don't think that's what he was coming at though, if everyone was left to voluntarily decide that this is my space who are you to claim that space, maybe he wants that space to....who ultimately decides who that space really belongs to. In a case where a space would be determined upon the needs of people to function as a society would that space be given to someone who produces lettuce or someone who produces oil, so unless you could drive machinery of any kind on lettuce the oil would ultimately be the bigger benefactor to society, if the dispute can't be resolved then those in society or the community decides...and the community is obviously going to decide they need oil more then they need lettuce so the lettuce grower is still going to lose in this instance...which basically is worse then what we have now, in a court of law it may be decided that unless that land is the only place that produces oil or is of a need for a national security interest the lettuce grower has more rights to the land and that the community doesn't get to decide just because it may mean a more local and less expensive route then importing their oil. Anyway the whole thing is always so comical to watch because you can see that even Adam has a hard time at certain points not to keep from laughing at himself.

The space is yours if you’ve rightfully acquired it. We can use reason to determine whether or not property has been rightfully acquired. But Adam recognizes physical property as property. Where he fails to support freedom is in regards to intellectual property. He believes it is okay to steal such property, because he fails to recognize it as such. If he were to apply reason, he’d come to see his failing

They didn't hit much on the intellectual rights of property, I didn't watch the whole video but made it through a considerable bit....mostly because the faces these people make when he describes his ideas make me laugh.

I didn’t watch it. I know that Adam doesn’t recognize property rights from other readings/interactions with him. Like all anarchists he wants might & whim to rule over right & reason

So....same as it ever was. lol.

This child pressuring, innocent individual-threatening fraud named Adam Kokesh attempts to pontificate on ethics. Rich, indeed.

Nobody wants your scammy ass, creepy stalker bullshit here.


This guy’s campaign targeted me and my family, and has threatened and pressure several others, including children.

https://steemit.com/kokesh/@kafkanarchy84/direct-admission-of-guilt-from-kokesh-campaign

After hearing from both sides, this whole story from kafkanarchy84 does not pass the smell test. Also why would you blame Adam for something his campaign manager was only thinking about and never pursued. More evidence would be needed if you want me to believe that Adam had anything to do with this. P.S. I don;t have any bias towards Adam, I am just looking at the evidence as they are presented and yes I can read.

Ask the infosec they were trying to exploit into attacking me, directly, if you’d like.

Here in the thread: @assetoperations

I look forward to more information, but that link leads to nothing.

The. infosec. is. here. in. the. comments. Ask away.

I cannot see this infosec guy here.
Does not matter however because I don't have any questions for whowever that person is.
For you however, I may have a few.

Wait. You don’t even know who the infosec is??? I thought you were familiar with this situation and the background. This is the person talking to Ben in the screens.

In this comment thread, bud. Just scroll down. @assetoperations.

Thanks.

I answered your questions bud.

I have to do some work now. The source is available to you, if you’re able to process the feedback.

Thanks again.

He or she has a lot of comments that seem unrelated to this. Still I don't see anything that prove your point. Yes I know who infosec is now, I don't go to sleep thinking about all of the characters and the details to this story. I just know that I have not seen the smoking gun yet. And I won't speculate.
And how can you answer my question if I had not asked it yet?

Thanks, Mark. Admission from campaign staff that cyberterror screenshots are authentic is around the 52 minute mark of this video.

I wonder why no one wishes to address the fact that the screenshots admitting:

  • I was being geolocated via license plates in my YouTube videos
  • children sometimes get dragged into these attacks
  • I as “fucking with their money” by simply disagreeing via Steemit articles
  • They had “assets in Japan” and teams of programmers
  • Ben desired to “reach me” physically

have been verified as authentic by a current campaign staffer.

I have addressed theses "facts" and there is nothing there to pin Adam with.

So these things were not contained in the screenshots, then?

Then infosec who was supposed to carry out the plan after being lied to about who I was, is here in the comments. @assetoperations. Please ask them if you have any questions. Cheers bud, and thanks for your concern.

I keep repeating this. Yes the screenshot is real. And what you say is there.
It is simply not conclusive that;

  1. anything was actually initiated
  2. Adam had any to do with this.
    I don't have any questions for this infosec.

So if I try to hire a hitman to kill someone, and he doesn’t do it, no harm no foul?

You are beyond help stupid. Sorry mane.

I don't need help thank you.
Name calling does not help your cause.

Hey dude I found something really offensive you have the power to flag and take care of, look at this dude's entry into a contest posted here and watch him punch a baby in the mouth....believe me I'd flag it if I had the power and I don't really believe in flagging comments but child abuse is unacceptable.

https://steemit.com/steemmonsters/@themarkymark/7xb9yr-steem-monsters-meme-contest

I had to stop watching when he said his platform was to be a bankruptcy agent. The irony is, his father used to the Supreme Court to do the same exact thing. Charles Kokesh steals 45 million dollars from 21,000 investors and proceeds to use the Supreme Court to determine the Statue Of Limitations to avoid paying the investors back. I hope the next time Adam uses a publicity stunt to get arrested, people should ask his illegal trophy hunting con man of a father to bail him out instead of begging for donations. I read an article where Adam said his father supports his fraudulent behavior. Adam is a product of his upbringing. If it’s about money, Adam will steal, lie, cheat, bully and cyber terrorize people into his own personal wealth. 3CB74800-0205-4A5A-A672-173191C96B78.jpeg493F733E-D529-429E-8F49-1AA146AA22B5.jpeg63259074-C33F-4A14-AC20-190D555CA4AD.jpeg

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