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Muscadines are often called the grape of the south. They are a variety of grape, that tends to grow mainly in the southern part of the USA. There are varieties that can grow a little further north, but there are grape varieties that can grow much further north. This article has information only on varieties of Muscadines, not grapes.

The botanical name of Muscadines is Vitis rotundifolia. All varieties of Muscadines originated from Vitis rotundifolia. Common names include but are not limited to: Bullace, Scuppernong, Southern Fox Grape. Related Species includes Summer grape, California Grape, American Grape, Fox Grape, River Bank Grape, Sand Grape, European Grape.

Main planting zones are 7 to 10, but it has been successfully grown up to zone 5, if you ensure the roots are heavily mulched before heavy frosts set in. Anyone living in zones further north than zone 5, would probably do better with a variety of grape that can handle temperatures down to 0 degrees.

Growing Conditions

To produce fruit, Muscadines require at least 6 to 8 hours of sunlight per day. They do not like soggy ground but they do need a good supply of water, especially when producing fruit. Too little water results in little to no fruit.


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Before buying seeds or root stock you need to know…

There are two types of muscadines. One is called a female plant. The other is called self-fertile. Self-fertile varieties have flowers which contain both male and female parts. They do not require another plant to ensure pollination as they can pollinate themselves or female plants if they are within 50 feet of it.

It is best to either get root stock from a friend or purchase through a reputable seed dealer or nursery. Far too many of the sellers on Ebay have no idea what they are selling. Many moves onto some land and happen to find some muscadines growing on it. They have no idea how to tell if it is self-fertile or a female. In their mind, it made muscadines so it is fertile. That may not be true.

They do not understand that the other muscadine plant they found 30 to 40 feet away is the ONLY reason that plant has fruit. If you purchase seeds from it, they will not produce fruit until you plant a self-fertile within 50 feet.

Also, many of the people selling muscadine seeds have no idea they must be chilled for about 3 months before planting or they will not grow. They simply pick the muscadines, clean the seeds, dry and sell them. If a seller cannot tell you if they have been chilled, don’t waste your money. If they say they have been chilled a short period of time, make sure you have enough time to chill them yourself before time to plant.

There are two basic colors of female and self-fertile. There are many shades within these colors but it is important to understand how to colors interact with each other.

From Ison nursery:

• Self-fertile muscadine varieties do not cross pollination and produce fruit on their own.
• A bronze female can be pollinated by a black self-fertile and a black female can be pollinated by a bronze self-fertile.
• Wherever you have a female muscadine planted you must have a self-fertile of the proper color within 50 feet.
• Self-fertile varieties produce fruit that generally is not as large as female varieties but are very delicious in flavor.
• One self-fertile variety can pollinate up to three females.
• Keep in mind that female varieties will not produce fruit without proper pollination by a self-fertile variety.

Different varieties have different uses

If all you are looking for a muscadine to ensure a supply of fruit, most any variety will filled your needs. Some have sweeter fruits, some are larger fruits, some are black fruit (deep purple) some are bronze color. Some varieties have been developed specifically to use in wine making. Some varieties survive down to 10 degrees, while others would need to be mulched at that temp.

Decide on a variety that best suits what you want and need in your plant and order accordingly. Also note: Rarely will a newly planted muscadine vine produce fruit the first year. Under good growing conditions, they may produce fruit the second year. Some will not produce fruit till the third year. It all depends on the health of your seed/root, the exact growing conditions and how much sun they get.

What are Muscadines Used for?

From childhood I loved it any time we would find a muscadine vine growing nearby. No one had to worry about pesticides or pollution being on the fruit, so we would pick them, give them a quick swish in the nearby creek, just in case a bird did its business on them, and popped them into our mouths. They were delicious no matter what type of vine it was. Heck, we didn't even realize there were many types. All we knew is they tasted wonderful!

The two main things people use them for is making wine and jelly. But they can be used like any other fruit. Pies, Cakes, Cobblers, Stuff a Chicken with them, syrups, ice cream, cheese cake, heck I even saw someone who made muscadine mojitos out of them. If you can make it from a normal everyday fruit, you can make it from muscadines.

How to prune Muscadine vines

To ensure the best growth and fruit production, vines should be pruned every year. Usually they are pruned during January to February. You should cut back all the prior years growth up to where the new growth bud is coming in.
See the image below. It is not mandatory that you stake them on 8-foot posts with wires. It is possible to run them on a fence if it gets enough sunlight. In some cases, you can run a wire from one tree to another and allow them to grow that way.

The image below shows the parts you should leave. Everything else should be pruned away.


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Seed Bombs and Wild Seedings

Muscadines are a great fruit to use in seed bombs to be thrown into bright, sunny fields. Just make sure the area is not too wet and toss them near bushes or fences so they will have something to grow on.

Don’t worry if they are in an area where they will not get pruned each year. Muscadines will still produce some fruit for many years, even without pruning. It may not be as heavy of production, but there will still be plenty. Plus in the wild, as the seeds are eaten by birds and spread through their droppings, you could end up seeding the entire field, long before the original plant stops producing from being too far overgrown.

This can also attract other wildlife, especially more deer to an area. While might not want to eat Bambi now. In a survival situation, Bambi might save you and your family’s life.


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Some thoughts on Survival Issues

In a survival situation, sources of sugars will be one of the harder one to find. While there may be may sweet fruits that grow well in the USA, each has its own pros and cons. For instance Apple trees grow just fine in many parts of the country but unless you are very tall, you will be unable to reach the majority of the fruit without a ladder. Muscadines are runner vines, but in the wild, they usually don't get more than 4 to 6 feet tall, allowing you to reach the vast majority of the fruit from the ground.

Even if you are a teetotaler, learning how to make muscadine wine now can be a tremendous help in a zombie invasion. It is a product you can use to trade for other items you need and if a much larger gang is robbing everyone in the area, they will probably let you live and might leave you and your family alone if you agree to provide them with wine.

Most Commonly Known Self-fertile Varieties

• Carlos
• Cowart
• Creek
• Dixie red
• Fry seedless
• Granny Val
• Hal
• Ison
• Lane
• Late Fry
• Magnolia
• Noble
• Pineapple
• Southland
• Tara
• Triumph

Female Varieties

• African Queen
• Big Red
• Black Beauty
• Black Fry
• Darlene
• Early Fry
• Higgins
• Hunt
• Janet
• Jumbo
• Pam
• Scuppernong
• Sugargate
• Summit
• Supreme
• Sweet Jenny

I hope this information allows you and your family to become better prepared no matter what happens in the future.

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The comment about finding the vine and washing them off in the creek brought back memories of childhood in Alabama. While they were in season I remember picking them with my family from wild vines for Mom to make jelly. Absolutely delicious.

I was born and raised in Atlanta, but my grandparents farm was up on top of Sand Mountain. One of my aunts still lives on the same street. I have spent A LOT of time in Alabama.

I'll admit to NOT ever paying attention to grapes and their varieties until this week when I started researching to make homemade wine.

My parents used to have concorde grape vines a long time ago and our neighbor would come over and pick them ALL the time. My mom just told me recently the neighbor was making his own wine too.

I don't know grapes as well as I know muscadines. Grapes don't grow well around here. It is too hot in the summer I think. I know there are some forms that are better than others for making wine, but I don't know which. I think they could all be used, but some make a better quality. But keep in mind, a fancy wine to me is Sangria, lol.

Muscadines and Bees were going to be our addition for the year; however, bees will have to wait. I think I can get muscadines growing in spring though. It is nice to know I won't need the 8' high wires. 5 - 6' will be much more manageable!

Thank you for another quality post.

You are very welcome. Yes, I would hate to have to deal with 8' wires. You could actually go another foot or so shorter by simply extending the length to make up for it. Keep the height to a level you can easily reach from the ground. I am a short little person with short little arms. I would go with a 4 foot height because they will still grow at least 5 feet high and possibly higher. Anything much above 5' would require a step stool or small ladder for me. Hope this helps!

We put in some wine grapes last year so we need to do some trellising! Tried my first muscadine from my friend’s vine. Very tasty! Need to get a cutting from her.

Are they sweet? or a little on the bitter side of flavor?

It was sweet enough! She had already frozen them so I can’t speak to their fresh flavor but frozen they are absolutely delicious and worth growing! They had seeds which was the only annoying part

I love them frozen. I can't eat a lot of them at one time because of the sugar content. But by freezing them, I can grab one at a time and have a sweet treat without raising my blood sugar through the roof.

I grew up eating these things, I have never found one that wasn't sweet.

For some reason, I have never been any good at getting cuttings to root. I tend to use root or seed. Do you have a secret to getting them to root before they die, lol.

I was thinking about growing grapes this year and then I stumbled upon your article. Maybe I might try muscadines instead or maybe I might plant both.

I thought the part about the zombie invasion was hilarious. I would like to make some wine. I have made beer and cider. I currently have apple trees growing just for cider making. Some muscadine wine would be interesting.

Everyone around here is sort of Zombie crazy, they film parts of The Walking Dead not far from me. Plus I don't like thinking about all the other things that could happen. Zombie invasion gets the point across, lol. I usually mention it at least once in all my posts.

Sounds like you have a great start on being a big wine maker. Are you planning on selling it at some point, or just ensure your future when the invasion starts, lol.

I didn't even know these were a thing! Seems like they take to much space when you have a smaller yard.

Yes, if you have a small yard it might not be the best producing plant for you. But most fruit trees or vines take a lot of room. If you don't have any fruit growing and want to have some, you do not have to make the trellis for them to run on as big and it will stay in a smaller place. I have seen people grow them across only 10 feet of space and they did fine. Also, you can go high with them. I have seen them growing on an arch above someone's side walk. They put a single plant on each side and allowed them to grow up and meet in the middle. After a few years, they literally grew together. A single plant with roots on two sides, lol.

This is very informative. I have been wanting to grow Muscadines for many years. I can still taste the delicious Muscadine Meade I tried a few years ago, home-brewed by a friend. It was some of the best wine I've EVER had... We are in Zone 6, but I think if I grow them in front of the house and mulch them well like you said we might be able to grow them. Also- wow- your list of other foraging posts- we have a LOT in common!!

yes, there is a very good chance you can grow them if you keep them mulched. If I remember correctly, the Carlos variety can with stand down to 10 degrees. Keep in mind, that means if you can keep the roots from going down below 10 degrees they will come back next year. If you know how deep the frost layer goes, pile on enough mulch to raise the bed level higher than that is there is a really good chance it will work.

Thank you! That is very helpful advice! It does err, get down below 0 here.... But I might try that variety...

You are very welcome

Thank you! One of a few wines I enjoy is Moscato, especially if it's not one of the bubblier ones. Happy to say, I discovered the grapes themselves first!

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