Ecotrain QOTW: If 50% of the defense budgets of the 10 biggest nations was given to philanthropic causes, would we see more or less war and violence in the world?

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Welcome to this week's #EcoTrain Question of the Week

If 50% of the defense budgets of the 10 biggest nations was given to philanthropic causes, would we see more or less war and violence in the world?

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First Let's Take a Look at the Numbers


10 Biggest Nations in the World & Their Defense Budgets

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source: wikipedia from the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute

Put another way in a graph, we can easily see that the United States and China make up nearly half of the military spending for the entire world:

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Breaking this down another way, let us see the spending next to the number of people in these countries.

United States: 611.2 billion for 322,762,018 people

People's Republic of China: 215.7 billion for 1.379 billion people

Russia: 69.2 billion for 143,964,709 people

Saudi Arabia: 63.7 billion for 33,554,343 people

India: 55.9 billion for 1.324 billion people

France: 55.7 billion for 66.9 million people

United Kingdom: 48.3 billion for 65.64 million people

Japan: 46.1 billion for 127 million people

Germany: 41.1 billion for 82.67 million people

South Korea: 36.8 billion for 51.25 million people

(source: for population World Bank; statistics on military spending from link above.)

Total Spending: $ 1686 Billion for roughly 3.5 billion people!
That's $481.71 per person average for all of these countries

Now the question asks if 50% of the top 10 budgets were given to philanthropic causes, that equals roughly $240 per person in each of these countries.

$240

Personally I am incredibly angry, saddened and disgusted, though not surprised, that the US leads this list.

I think whatever money taken from war and given to "the desire to promote the welfare of others, expressed especially by the generous donation of money to good causes," which is the definition of philanthropy, it is a good thing.

Take all of the money for war and give it to causes to help people. Truly there is too much energy going to war and "defense" all around the country. I know it's not that simple, but I wish it were!

Would we see less war and violence in the world if we did this?

Honestly, I'm not really sure. Violence and war is a much bigger issue than military spending. It's a mindset and a cultural paradigm. People will kill each other with anything they have if the root of the issues aren't being touched on.

People must have a desire for peace and want to educate about peace, not just an absence of war.

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Peace Education

If we took the money away from war and put it toward Peace Education, perhaps then we would have a chance at less violence. If you took money away from war and put it toward remediating (some) the reasons which cause people to war (land fights, not enough food or safety in life, etc) there could be less war.

Tackling the Root Causes

But this still doesn't tackle the root causes of the biggest wars, like US invading places for oil, historical wars within nations that are never-ending, power-based wars, greedy politicians/corporations warring under the guise of something else or merciless dictators.

Government spending on "defense budgets" is as much of a corporate scheme (making multinational corporations money on the development of weapons) as it is a pissing match around the world.

We'll only see less war if the root causes are touched on and perhaps some of these philanthropic organizations would help that.

Furthermore the mindsets, world-views and paradigms within people and cultures that create breeding grounds for violent tendencies must be addressed. We cannot shift the habits of the people that make and allow war to continue simply by shifting the money spent by governing bodies. Rather it is a systemic issue that, as mentioned above, relates to Peace education, but also is also linked to mental and physical health, spiritual wellbeing, and feelings of belonging and unity.

These are not manufactured things, rather the results of many complex factors that create what we know as culture. Until these core and fundamental pieces of our "internal software" are reprogrammed away form a duality fear-based consciousness, there is no chance to shift the tides of violence.

Yes there would be less money wasted on fighter jets, but that's just the symptom of a much bigger ill.

Until the global population can't stop judging, isolating and oppressing those who are different, violence will exist in the many forms, ultimately leading to war.

Of course we would all love to see less money going to the war-associated raping, pillaging and killing, but it it not money that will get us out of this predicament (although it of of course helpful). War is part of our human experience that indeed causes much distress. But what can be done? I honestly don't know, but I will share a little of my (Ini) upbringing that highlights a religious organization that seems to be doing more good than harm.

As a caveat I am sharing this as an example, but am not suggesting the positive motions towards a peaceful world need be religiously based. As we've written about previously, there is much harm that has come in the name of religions, but felt this was an apt lived example.

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Connecting Through Beliefs and Values

I was raised in a modern Mennonite household and church. While my family was not overly religious, I did attend Sunday school and religiously affiliated school under grade 11.

The Mennonite faith has many branches, but I want to highlight what I saw as extremely positives outcomes from a non governmental organization that is making the world a better place. The main body that is making positive changes around the globe is known as Mennonite Central Committee. Ever heard of 10 000 Villages (one of the first major retailers in North America to introduce the concept of "fair trade" goods). They have made major advancements of commerce based on equality not exploitation.

Why am I bringing this up?

Because Churches and other religious groups contains a HUGE portion of the world's populations and hold incredible financial sway. They make decisions that can have wider reaching effects than governments.

There are 3 pillars of the Mennonite faith which I really appreciate and want to highlight:

  1. Pacifism
  2. Philanthropy
  3. Avoiding attempts to convert others

The Mennonite faith holds firmly to a their stance as pacifists, not believing in war as acceptable behavior. My Grandfather was a conscientious objector (drafted but excluded from active war duty) and was instead sent to work camps. This is an example of the power of organizations. As a Mennonite one could state to the government who was sending men to war (at times against their will) that their faith did not allow this. What's more is that in addition to refusing violence, the faith also has a strong network that seeks to support others who may be less privileged.

While this was a bit of a deviation in the conversation on reducing military spending, it is a great reminder of what kind of movements can be created when a group holds to a core set of values. In this case peace, acceptance and unity. This is powerful and beautiful. While I don't consider my self religious, I maintain this integrity of beliefs.

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It is crucial that we address some of the more systemic factors that create a culture of war in the global society. Reducing military spending is one positive shift, but ultimately we as humans need to evolve to a point where war and violence are simply not an option.

What do you think?

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Amazing idea of the post

US invading places for oil, historical wars within nations that are never-ending, power-based wars, greedy politicians/corporations warring under the guise of something else or merciless dictators.

How poorly we see the US Government for their supposed humanitarian intervention in Syria last month. Yet there are such wonderful people there too. Why is it there are the wrong people in charge? Would education turn that around or does being a leader necessate the potential to exercise military might?

I didn't know that about the Mennonites and find that fascinating. What was the work camp about and how did the public see this 'avoidance ' of military duty? I agree religion can support values that can progress humanity, although we have seen, historically, the opposite. Even Buddhist based faiths have had their moments, but certainly the practice of understanding the self as a conditioned being is key. I'm reluctant to say that religion is shit because it causes war blah blah blah. It's not the religion that does it, its the men who warp it.

Great answer to the question, @mountainjewel ... Ini for POTUS! Xxx

why are the wrong people in charge?

I had to laugh, even though this is really sad and dire. I suppose it's part of the bigger picture of evolution and learning we humans are progressing through.

As for the camps I think he took part in some logging work, and I can't say how it was received, my grandfather passed when I was 4. As for the religious hipocracies I feel it more the institutions rather than values that drive the negative side of Things. But gosh, you'd think we would have learned after the crusaded and inquisition and such ...

it's the men who warp it

Not much to add there other than sadly it's true. Thanks for engaging and it's great to hear from you on this @riverflows.

P.s. I'm not even a citizen of the USA, so no political career for me ;)

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Okay this has to be the best post I read in a while. First of all, @eco-alex, what a brilliant question. Second, @mountainjewel, you guys nailed the way you answered it, at least for me. I agree with your answer through and through and it too upsets me that the US leads the list.

So touched by your compliment @sharoonyasir. Happy you found resonance. The US is for sure one of the most tyrannical governments that hide beneath the the guise of democracy. Thanks for reading the thoughtful comment.

I feel very inspired right now. The figures, the way you analyzed the issues and then the way forward. @mountainjewel, thanks for putting up this great post. I just wish many more persons can read our responses to #QOTW and learn. However, i think our little actions can lead to a world of peace! Peace!

Well said @thegreens. Little actions add up to create big ones, waves in the ethers change cultural patterns....

I feel you on the small changes towards a more peaceful world, and even if one person considers a thought after reading a post then the post has made a difference. This is why we write, to share in hopes of inspireing and fueling positive action. Thanks for enjoying and appreciating our musings.

Great truths! Love your dedication!

Thanks @clara-andriessen. We are trying our best to live fully from a place of truth and commitment is the only way to do this. Thanks for giving it a read.

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I don't have a lot of voting power, but I did want to thank you just the same. Please consider it a thumbs up and perhaps next time we meet, I'll have more SP to share with you.

thank you! appreciate all the work you do :) <3

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