Steem Basic Income Giveaway (I'm a monster....)

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Thank you to everyone who put in an entry for last week's SBI Giveaway... it was a bit of an interesting question that had popped up into my mind as I was listening to science podcasts... and I was curious what other people thought... there was a bit of nuance that was slightly missed by some commentators... in that the medical drugs that we currently use and prescribe to pregnant women are not completely tested for safety and efficacy in direct tests. There were a few comments that jumped straight to the "no testing" answer in relation to experimental drugs.

Anyway, a much simpler question this week... as we progress through time, as societies evolve and we learn more about the universe around us... ethics and morals change. Which is normal... there is no absolute to ethics, what is right is really a consensus by society and not an universal absolute.

Anyway, this leads us to the obvious outcome... there are many things that we are doing at this moment in time... which are perfectly moral and ethically uncontroversial (in general...) which will be probably seen by later generations as immoral or ethically indefensible.

My Question

  1. What is something (or more than one thing...) that you do at the moment... which is not frowned upon by society, which you suspect will not be looked on kindly by inhabitants of future centuries?

My sample answer

Well... I guess the most obvious choice for me is that I'm a fan of eating meat. Already there is some debate over whether or not this is really an ethical thing to do. However, I'm just a fan of eating meat... so, the best I can do is to eat smaller amounts or "ethically" grown animals. The objection to meat is two-fold... the first being the direct harm to animals and the second being the knock-on effects of livestock farming upon our ecosystem.

If you really think about it... breeding animals to have their sole purpose to be slaughtered for food is pretty distasteful. Sure, there are ways to "ethically" kill the animals... but the general concept is still there... is it okay to bring living things into the world, to be killed at a later date? Added to this, is the ongoing literature which suggests that animals can feel more pain (like cooking lobsters alive...) or suffering than we had before cared to think about...

The second prong is the direct effect of livestock farming on the Earth's ecosystem. It isn't the most efficient use of resources (land and nutrition wise...), plus it has a large output of pollutants via methane which do impact our atmospheric balance. The data shows that it is a significant proportion of the human contribution to greenhouse gases. There is some suggestion that it is on par with transportation as our biggest contributor... although, a secondary study shows that the accounting in the original study was a bit over-enthusiastic about the accounting! However, even still... it is a large proportion!

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Apart from eating meat and animal products I think the amount of plastic waste I produce is a problem. I buy plastic bottles; food packed in plastic, sometimes even in multiple layers of it.

Plastic has multiple problems:

  1. It is today mostly made of oil which is a limited resource.
  2. There are a lot of different kinds of plastics which makes them hard to recycle → the resource oil is lost.
  3. Most types of plastic are non-biodegradable → if they land somewhere in nature they will stay there for a long time.

Especially the last issue will face a problem for future generations → they will hate me for producing plastic waste.

Oh yes... this is a big one as well. We are trying to cut down on our plastic use, definitely where food storage goes, we've stopped using disposable plastic. It is a small step, but we are looking for more places to stop using it!

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I'm pretty sure future generations will look back at my life completely aghast with little to no comprehension on how I got through a single day, let alone an entire lifetime...

"HOW ON GRRRTH DID HE NEVER KILL A SINGLE PERSON?"

"WHAT IS THAT NON-OFFSPRING HE ATE?"

"NEVER BUTCHERED A VILLAGE. WHAT A WEAKLING!"

"HE SAW A TREE NOT ON FIRE?!? WHAT A LUCKY ROCK!"

I'm looking at your with little comprehension right now!

Because I've never butchered a village or eaten my offspring? Dammit... I'm such a lame.

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I'm glad to see that you are open to questioning your beliefs regarding consuming other animals. What do you think of lab grown meat? It seems like a promising bridge, hopefully it'll be more available soon.

For me, I'm really not sure what that may be. I primairly use public transportation and bike, though I owned a car prior to moving from the US and likely will drive somewhat regularly again when I get. So maybe that. I'm vegan, I avoid packaged goods for the most part, and try to minimize my single use products as much as I can.

Oh, maybe manually brushing my teeth. Hopefully in the future we will have robotic systems to do that. Or maybe light and sound based ones. That would be pretty sweet. Along that line of thinking, cooking my own food, doing laundry, other household chores, all may be seen as oddities in the future if smart homes and robotic systems become the norm. I could also not being able to talk with people who speak other languages as being something drastic that changes. Perhaps there will be universal and ubiquitous translator electronics such that not communicating with people would be a faux pas.

It's really hard to think about what kind of society humanity will have in the future. I have my own desired ideals, but who knows what'll happen. Maybe the climate crisis will revert humanity backwards and we'll all be in Mad Max style dystopia. I hope not. But every day it seems like we're moving that way.

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I would be 100% into lab grown meat. I actually can't wait until it's in grocery stores and it'll be exciting times when it's cheaper than traditional-meat.

I'd probably consider trying it, but I'd need to research more into the process that goes into making it. And I'm not sure if I'd even want to, as I try to follow a primarily raw diet. Though, I guess with lab grown flesh the likelihood of bacteria significantly decreases.

I'm hoping it doesn't work like renewable energy, in that it becomes cheaper than the bad alternative but because that has so much power and tradition it'll stick around.

There's definitely already groups opposing it... trying to pass laws about only traditional farm grown livestock allowed to use the word "meat" in the product description... but honestly, it's getting so popular so fast that I'd be surprised if the cattle rancher groups could contain it.

It's definitely heavily processed... but so are sausages and hamburgers, etc. I'm trying to stay away from steak at the moment because of the water cost, so I'd be happy for any suitable alternative really.

Ugh. Just like with milk. They should just accept that they're bring phased out, and embrace the change.

If you feel a need for animal protein, I'd suggest insect as one of the best options.

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Absolutely, all for insect protein!

Well that's good to hear. It's too bad so many Western civilizations refuse to embrace it. I personally would rather it not be necessary, but insect usage would be a fairly significant positive step if if replaced all other animal flesh usage. Especially from am environmental standpoint.

I would love lab grown meat... I think it is really the real viable alternative, at least in the mid term. There are many people who are more like me, we are concerned about our eating habits and the impact on animals and the ecosystem... however, not willing to go completely veggie or vegan. We have switched to a few vegetarian meals a week, and we do use less meat... but I don't think I would be able to give it up completely.

I did see the Impossible Burger in the supermarket just a couple of days ago... I was curious, but wow... it was pretty expensive! Anyway, when the veggie options go on sale, I make sure to pick up a few packs!

Ha... doing chores... I can't wait until that is unethical!

I certainly hope that it becomes a good enough alternative for people. Seems like it would have all of the upsides for people who feel a need for flesh, and a whole lot less downsides.

That's awesome that you're cutting back. It took a me a very long time to transition to being vegetarian and then vegan. I never thought I'd be able to either. What changed for me was a culmination of a ton of different things sort of shifting my perspective on the world. So little separates us from our fellow animals. But, I'll leave that conversation for another time, if it's even one you'd be open to having.

I'd suggest a qrunch burger if you can find them where you leave. They're not meat alternatives, just a very tasty veggie burger that is whole food based.

I don't know if it'd ever be unethical but I could definitely see it being a frowned about activity at some point.

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qrunch.. I"m not sure if they have them here... but we have had some really nice veggie options, not burgers but really good stuff including "meatballs" for pasta and "chicken" sticks... I think I prefer the stuff that really are vegetarian and don't try to be fake meat!

Yeah, I guess I can sort of see the benefit for having fake meat stuff, but I find the truly veggie ones that just use the same shape are more appealing. Though I have not tried very many, as I stopped eating most kinds of processed food before I went vegetarian.

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@bengy, I spoke Truth on people's faces and in my opinion Truth is intolerant in this world. And this leads me towards my alone path and world. Stay blessed.

Speaking truth is important... on the other hand, there are ways to do it that are more efficient and get the change that you want!

That's true but in my opinion at the end of the day only Truth is ultimate aspect. Stay blessed.

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I'm with you,my meat eating will probably be frowned upon. Aside from the issues you raised about livestock, they also consume a lot of water. "Cutting consumption of animal products in half would reduce the U.S.’s dietary requirements of water by 37 percent. The average U.S. diet currently takes 1,320 gallons (4,997 liters) of water a day to produce." Source

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Yes, bin the future, I think it will really be completely unbelievable that we used our resources so inefficiently!

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I'm growing my own chard now, so my local supermarket will wonder when it has nothing to sell and needs to close ;)

So good and bad!

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