[ANN] Introducing Dustsweeper. A new service to turn Dust into Profit.

in #community6 years ago


In the quest to find ways to "give-back" to the community, @davemccoy and @danielsaori happily presents our latest project. A project supported by the STEEM Witness, @danielsaori.

We have decided to tackle a problem that disproportionately affects newbies and minnows alike. It might seem small, and it is. In fact, it is so small we refer to it as dust. But just because its small, doesn't mean it's not meaningful. It adds up economically, but even more important it makes users with lesser vote values feel like their votes don't matter. This is especially true on comments.

Today we are pleased to present you with a membership service that will take care of dust, @dustsweeper. By joining @dustsweeper you will have your dust taken care of automatically. It's a friendly, simple to use bot that looks out for the newbies and minnows, and makes sure that you get paid from the votes that have been cast for you, no matter how small.

The way it works:

If you have an upvote that is less than $0.0249, then your value will show either $0.00, $0.01, or $0.02. @dustsweeper will see those values on day 6 of your post/comment and upvote you $0.028 automatically so that you will get paid on the balance of those upvotes you already have.

What does it cost:

There is no membership fee whatsoever, but there is a charge of $0.014 SBD for every dust vote we cast. That is half of the value of the upvote of $0.028. The way we keep track of it is that you send about 1 SBD/STEEM or more, we double the amount and keep the balance on hand. Every time we upvote your dust we will just take it from that balance. For example, you will get 71 dust votes before your 1 SBD runs out. When you get low on your balance, you will be notified so that you can top-up your @dustsweeper balance and be sure you don't miss any votes.

Dustsweeper is a community bot run by witness @danielsaori

This is a joint project by @davemccoy and @danielsaori and it's supported and operated by witness @danielsaori. The goal behind this service is to help the newbies and minnows get paid on the votes they already have, not to make a profit. The fees we charge should equal the cost to run the service and lease the SP to make those votes. If the bot makes a profit, then the surplus will be used do other things to help the community.

Inaugural Sponsors/Delegators

If anyone would like to contribute to the @dustsweeper program, you can send funds directly and become a community support sponsor or you can also delegate any amount of SP you would like to the project. To get this program started @danielsaori will be delegating 1000 SP and @davemccoy will be delegating 200 SP.

Abuse Precautions Taken

First, we would hope that people wouldn't scheme such a helpful program to help people get paid for upvotes that fall into the category of dust. But since we are aware that there are sometimes people prone to coming up with such schemes, we will be on the lookout for it and use tools we have worked on to minimize abuse of the system. Naturally, this will be a work in process as with every day that goes by we will have more data to sift through and put the proper systems in place to progressively improve the program.

Purpose of @danielsaori witness

As a new witness @danielsaori has dedicated his witness to improve the community at large. Specifically to help the newbies and minnows to grow strong and vibrant so that the platform can develop in a healthy manner. The @dustsweeper program is a great initiative that fits that vision. It will help the people that participate, but may not be connected to the large players in the system. It will give them a way to feel like their voices can be heard even if the upvotes they receive are less than a penny. We welcome any of the other witnesses and larger Steemians to join us in this project, as since it is a community account and intended to help everyone feel that their vote really does count!

When you get dust, who are you gonna call?

  • Just transfer 1 STEEM/SBD to @dustsweeper and you are set.

Please consider voting @danielsaori as a Witness.

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Not sure if you have a graphic or not but was playing around with some ideas!!! @davemccoy

Wow, that's really cool. Maybe Dave has already asked you, but you should really make a post about this. Please do that and I will do my best to promote it.

I will change this logo shortly as it is a much better fit than our current simple logo.

Thank you! I will definitely do that! Glad you both liked it! I've also enhanced it a bit trying out a few looks so will place them in the post as well. As i told Dave its yours to use however you would like.

awesome again @charisma777 :) ... I love it!

That graphic looks nice! What a shiller :)

Lol thanks! We should shill for one another!!! Glad you like it!!

I think you got charimsa ;)

Thanks i guess that's why my mother gave me that name!!!

Then she must have charisma too :)

this is really cool, makes me want to get dust sweeper now :)

This is awesome!!!

thank you very much @mysearchisover! We're very glad you like it :)

It does look like it is working. :)

I'm glad to see you are following it, its really cool to see it in action!

Do you guys have enough steem power? It looks like the vote power is draining?

It is hard to guage exactly what the demand will be... so figuring out the demand side of this is the biggest issue... @danielsaori delegated another 1000 SP and we leased our first batch of 500 from Minnow Booster a couple of hours ago... I know we will be fine in the long run, but in the short run if demand keeps picking up we may need some short term relief :P...

Its a good problem to have (lots of interest), and we will find a way somehow to meet demand!

How am I just now getting this?? This is so awesome for all the new guys and gals here. Thanks for everything you all are doing. Yous continue to be an inspiration to me. I'm going to do post on this so all my newbie friends will know! Thanks @danielsaori and @davemccoy! Please let me know if you get my VP delegation on your end. I wish I could do more.


Awesome John!
I will be keeping my eyes open for your post.

This sounds like a great initiative and I really hope it works as envisioned!

Good luck!

Edit: Delegated 200 SP to help kick things off (and joined in with a send to the account :) )

Thanks a lot, Asher. Awesome you decided to delegate 200 SP, great to have your support.

We are currently up to 78 users which is an amazing start. :)

No worries, the @dustsweeper has already paid me a few visits - great initiative!

Amazing initiative, guys. You have my full support.

I just saw the delegation... I was right... I'm going to lock down that name for you one day...

@simplyamazing :)

Too many expectation, then, @davemccoy. Lol.
I’m glad you guys gave a a good bot to delegate to :0)

lol... we'll consider it later after you are recovered ;)

Thank you again @simplymike! I had a hunch you would like anything that helps our the newbies and minnows! :)

Thank you Mike for your support and for your awesome delegation.

Dank je wel!

Ha, ha, ha. You'd said I'd like yours and @danielsaori's new project @davemccoy, but you were wrong, I LOVE it.

1 SBD transferred. I didn't put anything in the memo. Is that right?

Actually I spoke to soon. I seem to be unable to transfer the SBD. I keep getting transaction errors. 😢

I'm so glad to hear you love it Gillian! :) And, yes that is perfect... you should get a memo back... telling you that you have $2 in upvote balance... If you don't let me know and I will track it down!

Thanks Gillian! Great you loved it. :)
Yes, your transfer didn't work. Maybe due to the recent steemit issues it didn't complete. Please try it again.

I'm finding impossible at the moment to make the transfer @danielsaori. I just keep getting errors but hopefully it's because of the recent steemit issues and it will settle down.

I'm not able to log into Busy at all. Grrrrrr!

It seems to have been stable for some time now and other transfers have worked. Just double check that you are putting in the active key for the transfer.

I'm pretty sure it's the private active key. But I can't double check because I can't get in and I can't find my master password either. I've never had a problem before.

I need to do some stuff and before getting ready for bed so I'll have to leave it for now and try again tomorrow!

The system was giving me the 504 gateway timeout message earlier today. I think one of the servers was/is having issues. It should be fixed tomorrow.

Great initiative. At the start it was really sad to lose those 0.02s and 0.01s. IMHO 1 SBD/STEEM is bit higher considering you are targeting newbie users. But I am sure you have done your homeworks.

They can actually send in any amount they want... The reason for the 1 sbd is so that they don't have to send it per transaction and over and over... We wanted to make it as seemless as possible, so 1 sbd covers 71 dust votes... but if they only have $0.25 sbd they could send that too.

When I get some coin, I’ll be sending it your way.

That's the same concern I had too, @reazuliqbal... that it would be too high for newbs. Thanks for bringing that up.

And Thank you for clarifying that $1.00 SBD wasn't a minimum amount to use @dustsweeper, @davemccoy.

I thought @davemmcoy was just going to run around for the rest of time upping people's dust votes. You know, the personal touch! :) Okay, automating is probably better. I mean why not have one more bot?

So, question. I believe grumpycat is on their way out, but they have madpuppy around who I believe in part is at least upholding the grumpy cat compliance on bidbots. I know this isnt' a bid bot, but I'd really hate for this bot to run afoul of either because they didn't want to differentiate. I think the problem has always been when the vote occurs, not who or what makes the vote.

And since the grumpycat compliance is for no later than 3.5 days, and the stated dustsweeper voting timing is on the sixth day, it would seem like there could be an issue. I'm not an expert. I'm just voicing a concern.

Anyway. I didn't see anyone else bring this up, and so I just wanted to throw it out there for what it's ultimately worth. Good luck with this new initiative. :)

Poor Dave he would be run ragged if he needs to do that.

Good catch on the Grumpy cat though

Thank you. I've been learning, as you have, that it doesn't really matter when it comes to these kinds of things to people. I wonder if they lead such strict and unyielding moral lives in the real world as they do here? I guess it's one thing to do things the way you do because you believe them, and there's certainly room to try to influence people to your side, but to go out of your way to hunt down 'offenders' day in and day out because they don't conform to your own sometimes rather arbitrary and narrowed outlook on things? I don't know. Doesn't sit very well. Especially when among those folks are the worst offenders of the so called violation.

Well said Glen! I always think that it must be very difficult living inside that kind of person.

Oh, it probably is, and most of us are glad we're not and will probably try somehow to feel sorry for them or justify their actions. And while I believe a person can change, and I also believe in turning the other cheek, I also believe that we are responsible and accountable for own actions and outside of some kind of mental heath issue, we can control our behavior. So, tortured soul or not, there are still choices being made. There's benefit of the doubt, and then there's blind faith, and I don't think the latter is required.

Again, I agree.

we can control our behavior.

even though a large percentage of the population has a terrible case of excusitis :)

(yes, I know, but it should be a word:)

Don't look now, but apparently excusitis was submitted to Collins Online English Dictionary back in 2012:

A mediocre person who is suffering from the sickness of a mental disease of MAKING EXCUSES every time that aren't made by the successful person.

As of today, it's approval is still under investigation. I guess it was previously used in a book called The Magic of Thinking Big, a self-help, motivational book by David Schwartz.

There, once again you know more about something than you ever wanted or needed to know. :)

Yeah Grumpy Cat is just a bully who found a platform that by having enough stake he/she/it can push around people and place them hostage to his narrow ideals and he/she/it has the fall to comment and say rubbing it in with a higher uovote on the shitty comment.

I think they have to be more than just a bully. They have to be someone fairly familiar with the platform. It was also a very specific request. No last minute voting for bots, in fact 3.5 days no more. Comply or else. So, while obviously a bully, the person needed to not only know the ends and outs of voting, but also needed to know the fastest way to get a surrogate count up and running (the one that would upvote its own comments numerous times), and then, of course, they had to have all the coin in order to buy in. If I remember right, the g-cat account was set up in November of last year. So, that wasn't a whole lot of time to suddenly learn the ropes, and I don't think just any investor shows up with a bunch of money, finds something they don't like, throws their weight around and then begins to power down without really having any other concerns on the platform.

said perfectly Glen! if my vp wasn't at 66% you would get a full upvote for that one... Honestly I couldn't agree more!

Well, then, you're off the hook. :)

I didn't ever expect a place that virtually has no rules to have people that try to enforce their own by force. I was hoping for reasoned arguments. And while some of that goes on, there's a lot of might makes right. And some people think that's perfectly fine in a place with no rules. Well, outside of a real stake in STEEM to protect, I don't know that any of the folks would be very happy if what happens here were happening in their country, or state. And some people actually do have that happening, and then they end up here and see it all over again. Even the escape doesn't really constitute an escape.

There are oases thankfully, and you've been helping to create and maintain some of them, but waters are infested will all kinds, and they seem to like to exercise whatever bit of power they think they have.

lol Mav! Are you still up or did you go to sleep and already up again? And thanks to Daniel I am not running myself ragged!

Hahaha I was able to get some sleep after explaining and sharing teh wonderful project that you have.

Good thing because we need you commenting and inspiring minnows and Redfishes instead of running after dust bunnies hahahha

Good to hear that Mav! I was starting to worry :P

lol... that is very funny Glenn! I tried for a couple days but thankfully @danielsaori has the skills needed to automate the process. :)

As far as it being a problem, I would hope it wouldn't be... but we already have one warm and welcoming individual that has decided that he is going to crusade against it... See bottom of comments if you want to see his objections. So it will be what it is, I hope sincerely that people in the community support it and it is a valuable service. But if there are enough madpuppies or others that want to "take it down", then I guess we will have to find out.

I think it is awesome that you like it, and as the reigning King of Comments I'm happy to have your voice of support for the effort! :)

I'm not sure if I was rubberstamping it per se, as much as I was acknowledging that at least you'll be able to focus some energies elsewhere. :) I'm betting you had quite a bit of fun doing it.

You're right, though, we will see whether or the community let's this initiative prevail or not. Since I haven't gotten an answer to where all the dust goes when it's not rewarded, be it burned, null or go back to Steemit, it would be nice to keep it in play. I'm just not sure how this vote bot plays into the whole curation scheme of things, especially on comments that are mainly rewarded for participation rather than content. I do hope, though, that it does what you believe it will do.

Since I haven't gotten an answer to where all the dust goes when it's not rewarded, be it burned, null or go back to Steemit

On that initial post by @sircork, he clarified in the comment section that the unpaid votes went in to the pool, @glenalbrethsen.

Which again upped my mini rant count the evening I read through and responded to post and comments. ;)

lol, which post did I say that on? It's true. I'm 99% sure anyway... but now I don't remember when and where I talked about it. :D


@SirCork, it seems I have you on my mind!!! My HUMBLEST apologies!!!

I should have said @TimCliff's post.

Please forgive? ;)

PS Yes, I've commented on that rule a few enough places that I meant to gather up all of the comments and put in one post.

Still haven't done it yet though. ;)

hah, no need to forgive, I appreciate being thought of! :D

I admit I didn't realize that there was so much more to the post in the comments, but I found where timcliff said it goes back to the rewards pool and I read your two longer replies.

I can't believe it's almost been a month since that post came out! It seemed like a couple of weeks ago.

The rewards pool. Well, interesting. The one thing I guess we can take from this is, as long as all dust votes on a post or comment get to the 2-2.5-3.0 threshold (whatever it truly is, since it seems to be a moving target), the payout to the author occurs. And what this initiative here would hope to do is make all posts and comments with upvotes below the threshold get above it.

I certainly prefer if someone votes on something that their small rewards be counted to the author rather than going back to the rewards pool. I just wish it didn't require someone else coming by and creating a means to make it happen that will basically be supplementation through another amount coming from the rewards pool. I don't know. Better just to watch things as they unfold. As I replied to Dave, in the grand scheme of things, this is not a platform destroyer, and as such, that makes it better than a lot else going on. :)

I can't believe it's almost been a month since that post came out! It seemed like a couple of weeks ago.


It seems a short time, but to tell you the truth, I realize it's about a month simply because my upset has cooled down so much. It affected me for about a week and a half at least.

I certainly prefer if someone votes on something that their small rewards be counted to the author rather than going back to the rewards pool.

Absolutely. We're not upvoting for the value to go to anything or anyone or anywhere else than the author we upvote.

I'm truly hoping our wonderful Witnesses will all vote the silly rounding down rule out of existence, @glenalbrethsen. ;)

Right, @SirCork, @danielsaori, @TimCliff, et al? ;)

That would be interesting to see if they could actually vote it down. I mean, I understand they can make recommendations, but anyway, might be parsing words. What I understand about the dust vote is, if all the dust votes were calculated, it would be an unnecessary computational load on the blockchain. I don't know what that means, as in to what degree. I don't know what's favorable, or what's not. I don't even know if it's an issue.

However, if it is, it's only going to become a bigger issue if the masses do ever show up here. We've got more small fish than ever before, and the amounts will only grow from here if/when HF 20 drops.

So, it would be cool to know just what can be done about the dust vote and whether it will be done. :)

Too late, I already inked the rubber stamp... :P

I understand your point... You don't want to have a full opinion until you have time to see how it works, and what the other points of view are on the subject... That is fair... You are a thinker that I think I have valued your opinion every time, so I hope you will put the thinking cap on and the observation goggles and see how this plays over the next few days and weeks!

If there's anyone here who has earned a rubberstamp, it would be you. :)

As you say, I'm hesitant to pronounce anything one way or another until I see it in action. I have done it a time or two, but only because they rang true. Thankfully, they're still holding true as far as I know.

In the grand scheme of things, though, since we love to talk in degrees here, the relative harm that can be done is small, and the relative good it can do reward-wise to participating individuals, also small, with the boost to morale of those involved still to be determined. :)

I have been meaning to get to this for more than a day... I wanted to say, thank you for that very kind thing you said... And I do agree with you about the grand scheme of things, as I said there is no much I ever disagree with you about! Always reasonable and have your feet on the ground... And haven't had a chance to get to Asher's post, but I did see where you lost the crown... I think you will get it right back, but I do think you have been stellar for so long you should be very proud! I will pay you compliments over there, I think I can make it there in a few min :P

It's okay. It's now 22 hours since you wrote this message and I'm only barely catching up to it. And aside from making my main comment and then responding to replies, I haven't done a whole lot over there, still. And then I have my own feed to catch up with. So, there's always a lot to do and not seemingly enough time to do it in.

I'm not sure how someone even makes 1300-plus comments in a week, but apparently it's possible. So me dropping out of first wasn't as secure as ya'll were trying to make it seem. :) I feel like I've been accomplishing some good things, but of course I'd rather be at the top. I'm working to get back there, and so we'll see what happens. I'm comforted in the fact that even with the amount of comments made, my CL was quite a bit higher, which means if I can get it up again into the 200,000s, I can get back on top, barring another 400 or more comments, or whatever the equivalent would be.

I have no doubt that you will be right there in the hunt.... I think its actually good to break a streak so that you can start a new one... I actually felt a lot less pressure once I lot my crown... But something tells me that you and Lynn will both be there every week in the hunt!

ps... I know exactly what you mean about catching up on the blogs and everything else, I also have my steem price post to get to and I know you have a comment over there too... I hope I get to it tonight... I am definitely going to sleep by midnight... I don't like those mornings after the 3am nights. Have a good one and talk to you again (hopefully soon) :)

FYI, I didn't make it... Going to sleep... Hopefully I get closer to catching up to that post tomorrow! Have a good evening Glen! :)

Luckily for Dave we got the bot running so he doesn't kill himself running it manually. :)

I see the point about grumpycat. Hopefully it won't be an issue. This is after all not a bid bot and it has a completely different focus. Also, the per post/comment upvote value is so small.
There could still be some abuse and we are considering different possibilities to fight that atm.

Thanks for your comment Glen!

I am really amazed at the incentive you @danielsaori and @davemccoy are taking to provide for the community , and as part of the steemian nation I thank u 😊

The project is really great in a sense that it is aimed at new users , and encourages them to feel welcomed to steemit and create a place for them to belong.
The battle of upvoting is very real , and making their votes count is very helpful , further taking measures to prevent abuse really assures that you know what u are doing
However maybe the fees is too high as it is aimed to new steemians?

You can deposit less @moonprincess... The way it works is based on the amount you have on deposit... So if you have enough on deposit, then you will get the upvote... So if a smaller account only has say 1/2 or 1/4 of the 1 sbd, that is ok... they can send it in and it will get counted and the upvotes will occur...

The reason we set it for 1 sbd in the explanation is so that people don't have to think about it all the time and it will make it less cumbersome. For 1 sbd you get 71 dust votes of $0.028 and then you will be prompted to reload. But if there is a smaller account, then it is ok to send in less.

I'm glad you like it and understand the purpose, that is what we wanted to do is help the community (especially the newbies and minnows) :)

Glad to see supporters already! Of course will send in my 1 SBD to make the upvotes given to me by newbies count. Some are aware about the 0.02 dust threshold but still want to upvote as a gesture of their appreciation. This wonderful bot will now give value to their upvotes. Thanks you two!

I just tested it on one of your comments. I make all of my upvotes count! lol I'm really glad that Tim happened to mention the threshold problem.

Hey @mysearchisover. Are you testing to see if the dustsweeper will kick in?

My friend PD tries to make her upvotes count too. It's unfortunate that the price of Steem dropped in value so the 0.02 upvote she gave to me a few days back lost value. I tell her not to upvote my comments, but she's just a sweetie.

I make all of my upvotes count but it is frustrating not being able to upvote everyone I want. I don't know why people like you don't upvote themselves more. Oh well I guess I will just take the free money and eventually it is looking like I will be able to have upvotes that will count solo. Technically my upvotes would count if I was at 100% power but like that will ever happen. lol
I am still "scared" though. I'll be watching the upvote I did on one of your older comments.
I wasted at least 1,000 upvotes I think before I learned about the threshold thanks to Tim's post.

By people like me, you mean sweet and charming? Oh maybe just the ones with enough SP to give ourselves a 0.02 upvote value but choose not to self-vote? 😉

I don’t upvote myself because I’m a prissy girl. My mentality may change once my upvotes are worth more, because gosh darn it, I want to see my posts in the spotlight on Trending! A lot of us don’t self vote for many reasons. It’s a personal decision with no right or wrong answers.

We’ve all wasted upvotes before learning of the dust threshold. I had a hard time getting my VP out of the 60-70% range, and then to find out that some of those 0.02 upvotes I gave still did not pay out! In essence, when Steem price plunges, your upvote worth of 0.02 doesn’t mean 0.02. By post payout, that 0.02 could now be 0.017. That’s why I support the dustsweeper. I hate to see a good-hearted gesture go to waste.

I have to upvote my stellar comments :) lol Every 5,504 of them. ;) I usually even promote my awesome comments. Hopefully it will really pay off for myself and this currently "struggling" blockchain in the end.

I have no problem people promoting themselves. I do suggest you be mindful of whose post you decide to upvote yourself to the top. I know @davemccoy doesn’t mind because he’s simply a good guy.

For some others, they do like to select for themselves which comments make it to the top and it’s good to be considerate of others, especially on their posts. Some higher reps may not like the “self-votes” and may choose to flag you. As I said, it’s a personal decision but be mindful too.

Most of us on this page are part of Asher’s league of engagement and not to hoot our own horns, but we all have stellar comments. A lot of us choose not to promote ourselves and if we do, we do it respectfully with someone who doesn’t mind. 🙂

I do try and stay away from Germans now. lol I might try and visit London someday but I will probably try and stay far away from Germany. lol FYI don't try and be helpful and provide translation for English speakers that are coming from a contest written in English. I got hit twice.
So far I've done a pretty good job only following nice people. I do need to be very cautious on this site though. I still plan on being a rebel and using the HEAVILY policed introduceyourself tag when it is my one year of earnings. Hopefully I don't get flagged.

You mean Asher's League of Excellence? Do they like to flag? It sucks I can't comment on haejin's page even though I am interested in bitcoin and GBTC. I got flagged there by Bernie.

You should follow me because I'm an awesome rebel. :) lol

I just noticed the same regarding the drop. I had given everyone on one of my posts 0.03 and see that they dropped to 0.02. But, thankfully, I am noticing @dustsweeper all over the place, cleaning up my mess :)

That's awesome! It's vote power is going down though. It's now at 83%.

Awesome @beeyou :)... I figured you'd like to see the votes counted finally... It has been a topic of debate lately and hopefully this will help make people realize that their votes do count :)

A lot of my supporters are newbies so I do appreciate having the capability (via dustsweeper) to place value on their upvote. Now I don't have to continuously tell them to please not upvote my comments! :)

you will still find a way to give it back to them... face it @beeyou, you're a giver :)

I’m a realist too.

Super BeeYOU! You were "customer" nr 4.
For anyone that dislikes cleaning, Dustsweeper would be a dream, and we hope it will do a wonderful job around here as well.

I was going to ask if you can build a dustsweeper for the real world, but we already have those robotic ones. :)

Thanks for working with Dave on this one. It's a great way to give value to the voices of newbies/minnows. I want all my supporters to feel their upvotes are valuable to me, because they are.

Your "robotic" comment reminded me of a story. My friend had one of those roomba thingies, but she also had a big chocolate lab with a delicate intestinal track. Yep! Can you see where this is going yet? Just before leaving for work one day, she put her automatic sweeper in motion and came home to dog diarrhea "swept" all over the house!! I can't make this sh*t up haha Pun intended @beeyou :)

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