Steemit: The Inevitable Path Towards More and More Powdery Dust...

in #bidbots6 years ago

This morning, I came across yet another "bot-that-claims-it's-not-a-bot" type community service upvote bot thingy... and continued thinking about the path to where this is all leading. Yes, I'm still pondering the implications of my post from a couple of days back, concerning "zero votes."

Yeah, Maybe I Think too Much...

I am, in many ways, an "analyst." Not in the poring over terabytes of data for statistical purposes sort of way, but in terms of trying to tune in to the "microtrends" that tend to be the precursor signals of changes to come.

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Where does this path lead us...?

Looking at this new "service" (which I will NOT name) with it's slick looking comment filled with typos and bad grammar, but otherwise lovely presentation and a nice graphic, along with it's encouragement to get people to "delegate," I tried to project out there this is all likely to end.

I already see 100's of posts every week that get something like 600 upvotes that add up to $1.23 or something like that. For that matter, I get upvotes on my own posts that I have no idea where come from, but on examining them, I see that they are something like "0.5% of a 5-cent upvote." Which basically is such a minuscule speck of dust that it is basically akin to nothing.

This "nothing" is then repeated millions and millions of times, pretty much resulting in — as far as I can tell — a great big nothing that has no effective impact other than to burn a great deal of CPU time somewhere, for zero gain. For anyone.

Now, I appreciate that there are those who worship technology and automation... simply because it can be done, but pardon my bluntness here... but "what the fuck are you doing???"

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Looking forward to spring...

Hope Springs Eternal?

I am open to the possibility — as often is the case — that many of these things are created based on false assumptions that have their root in essentially "wishful thinking."

"No, but this will really do well when Steem is $10.00!"

That's a nice idea, but Steem is NOT $10.00. Steem is not even ONE dollar. Steem is not even worth a Quarter. Under the current environment, you're effectively accomplishing absolutely nothing.

Granted, I have my own biases. I tend to have a HUMAN based orientation, not a MACHINE or AUTOMATION based orientation. Technology is great, but because technology has no "intangible needs" of its own — like humans — it can't ultimately create a human-friendly environment, it can only assist and approximate one. Technology doesn't get headaches or itchy feet, so it doesn't respond to those, AI notwithstanding.

I don't "worship" the blockchain, only what it can do for people. Functionally do.

Which brings me back to some of these services, which seem to be all about delegating ever more $50 delegations so the resulting $0.002 can be divided among 300 votes. Until we end up with this giant whirling machine that distributes minuscule grains of sand with no net effect.

Come on, people!

Let's not forget that communities are built by people, not by machines!

Sorry, just having a late night rant moment, here...

Thanks for reading!

As always, comments and interaction invited and welcomed! What do you think? Are we going to end up with a "dust filled" system run by "services" and bots, where the people have become obsolete? Do any of these voting/curation "services" strike you as pretty absurd? Leave a comment-- share your experiences-- be part of the conversation!

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Automation killed the fun. And possibly also had a massive impact on why Steem is one of the worst performers in Top 100.

It turned things into investing in philanthropy because “community support”. At the same time it led to short term ROI taking over.

I recently also finished a post with the notion that it would be better if the nominal worth of $TEEM will be $0.00 for a while.

Because the core focus and spirit has ended up buried under all distractions driven by returns.

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That pretty much seems to summarize it, right there.

From time to time I speculate on how things here might have been different if (a) they had stuck to the original two-year power down period, and (b) ALL rewards were paid in SP, rather than any other option. Making the focus all about building stake, not "making money."

Yes, everything seems to have become about a game of tweaking some automated system to squeeze every last penny out of the rewards pool... and to hell with the actual SOCIAL part of this gig.

Sad, very sad....

I’ve been thinking about the two years PD. I need to get my witness box up and then hit top 20, or close in on it, and rally for at least 52 weeks PD on smoke.io.

I think that would help the token even more, but the main issue with that is patience for liquidity. Not sure if there would be consensus level buy in for that at this early stage. But I’m definitely enjoying what I see there with 50/50 split and 100% power up for rewards.

It becomes a "core business philosophy" issue, really. A part of the "self-definition" of the venue.

The moment you go out there and say "get paid to contribute," the immediate implication is cash/liquidity. And so you attract people looking for current income.

If you go out there and say "build long term stake/ownership in the venue you're using!" it sets a different benchmark for whom it appeals to.

I know (form 20-odd years of get-paid-for-content sites) that if you appeal to the "long term investment set" you end up with a much smaller set of users... BUT they are extremely protective and invested in the long-term well-being of the venue. They voluntarily tend to "do right," because they sincerely want to be there, five years down the road.

Few site creators take the later path, though... because they just want to make money... NOW!

"Do any of these voting/curation "services" strike you as pretty absurd?"

I have never used one or even checked one out. But, that being said, there is not much in the modern human condition that doesn't strike me as "absurd." News, advertising, commercialism. All absurd. And I can even see that people might think that there could be an advantage in lying to others. But lying to themselves - how absurd! And how commonplace.

Never used them, but did check them out simply because I was curious to see why people were making such a big deal out of them.

Most of existence on this planet strikes me as mildly absurd... hence my inclination to isolate as much as possible. The less I have to directly interact with "The Whirled," the better my mental health seems to be.

And yes, self-deception runs rampant...

This post has been included in today's SOS Daily News - a digest of all you need to know about the State of Steem.



Thanks for the support @pennsif!

You are welcome.

Automation suck and those voting vots are not worth your time to try them!

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Agreed, and I don't use bots... and they are just a source of bafflement to me.

Now, I appreciate that there are those who worship technology and automation... simply because it can be done, but pardon my bluntness here... but "what the fuck are you doing???"

Oh, glad that someone else said this in addition to me. Honestly, I stopped doing it a while ago. Because in front of so many blind and deaf people in the room. I didn't want to risk losing my shoes and having to go barefoot after having to appeal to kick so many asses so they realize what they are doing so far. };)

Then, Technology & Machine Automation ¿Huh? my 'old' friend?

One of my all-time favorite clips, thanks!

At this point, I sadly just feel like sitting back and popping popcorn... and watching this debacle self-destruct. Because I find it harder and harder to believe that it will do anything else.

"bot-that-claims-it's-not-a-bot"

Oh really? Is that like "I'm sort of pregnant?" When does one become full-fledged pregnant?
Either you are.. or you're not. To be a bot is to ruin the platform.

It seems like if you somehow label is a "community service," make no profit (as in, run it as a co-op), then it somehow is supposed top no longer be a "bidbot."

But to me, it's still automation trying to emulate human behavior.

Manual curation and human interaction are the value behind STEEM. Bots can only dilute this value.

That was pretty much the impression I got when I decided to start blogging here, a couple of years ago. And — at that point — there were a lot more humans than machines. Now? Now I find myself trying to follow an ever-shrinking core of the remaining human beings here... Diluted value? Yes, it certainly does seem that way.

I'm not sure how it dilutes the market if we active human users coordinate to support one another.

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