You Shouldn't Take Advice From Those Who Are Successful

in #advice7 years ago (edited)

All too often I stumble upon people who seem to be fascinated with the success of others. It seems logical that if someone is successful, then following that person's strategy, would also bring success to you. Thing is, life doesn't work like that. In fact, you would have had the same luck taking money advice from someone who just won the lottery.

Crows, much like humans, are pretty intelligent beings if they are trained under a specific context. If you doubt their ingenuity then check this out. Crows are also known to be simpletons — they pretty much collect everything that blinks. We might consider crows silly for not knowing any better but we are not that much different. Crows possess an innate jerk reaction to anything that reflects light. Humans have a similar reaction when confronted with societal memes that involve someone flashing money, driving an expensive car or wearing a fancy suit.


Part of the reason we are often rendered emotionally handicapped to these societal memes is because we suck at making logical deductions. People don't just hate math for no reason. Logical thinking goes against our nature. Humans function primarily on an emotional autopilot. Thinking is hard and takes energy so the brain tends to avoid it. This is also why the decisions we take tend to be emotional rather than logical.

For example, you have the same odds for winning the lottery as with a tiny asteroid landing on your right testicle. Yet, people keep playing over and over again. There is a saying that the lottery is a form of tax for stupid people. People see the advertised winner and forget the millions of people that didn't win. In other words we pay attention to the wins and forget the losses.

Most gamblers think much the same. Most traders think much the same (sure, not you). Most positive thinkers carry the same false mentality. All it matter are the wins. The losses are ignored. Thing is, in a world that is governed by demand and supply the losses will be always far greater than the wins. Although there is no such thing as zero sum game, the overall relative gap of wealth will always increase due to competition and the nature of value. In other words, losers will always be more than the winners. Much more. Relative value exists because of this uncanny unbalance.

Many people that read the Warren Buffet books or Steve Jobs autobiographies, believe that if they follow their ways they will too become successful. Statistically speaking, the exact opposite is true. Buffet became Buffet because he had a unique set of circumstances aligned for him. His father owned a brokerage and he could also have a good strike in a couple deals. Then everything after that rolled out effortlessly. Whatever move he was making, whatever strategy, could be explained as a post-hoc event. Thousands and thousands of traders followed Warren Buffet's classic strategy but not all made it. In fact most got owned because they created a predictable trend in their trading strategies and others ripped them off.


This phenomenon is easily demonstrable when it comes to popular videos and news. We are showered every day by the top million views-popular videos, forgetting we are witnessing the extreme exception to the rule. The exception, in our eyes, becomes our norm. Self-help gurus like Tony Robbins know this trick very well. This is why they only flash the followers that made it. This form of confirmation bias plagues humanity in more instance that I can enumerate.


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The crashing majority of people don't do anything wrong. Even if they follow the books, lives and advice of successful people, they simply don't make it. Their child might have caught an illness and changed their venture's prospects. A boss might have just promoted their relative. A physical injury might have stopped progress. Heck, one might have stained their tie by mistake causing them to lose the jackpot deal of their life that could have made them the next George Soros. If anything of those events had rolled out for the better, the post-hoc narrative would have changed along.

Most people hate the idea that life is mostly about luck because losing control is scary. The fact of the matter is that life is mostly luck. You can even demonstrate this to yourself. Take a note and start writing down all the small events happening around you, along with the potential outcomes. In an hour, so many things affect you in your vicinity that you could have written a book.


Your daily life involves trillions of micro-events that together create your own unique future. A small change can make you win the lottery or leave you paralyzed for life. The control we have on events in our life are extremely limited. Life is highly unpredictable. If you believe that something bad is unlikely to happen due to a statistical impossibility then why would you think otherwise about becoming a millionaire?

Following the lives of others is not only silly but is also damaging. If for example everyone starts copying Buffet's investing strategy then someone with an opposing game can screw everyone over. In fact much of financial fraud in trading happens exactly like this. Moreover you are not them. You will never be them. Trying to take advice from a person that has lived a different set of events is futile. One cannot get the same outcomes in their life. It is statistically improbable due to the collusion of a myriad of other factors. It is similar to copying the training regime of Usain Bolt in hope to become the fastest man alive.


I wrote this article because I see some celebrities here on Steemit who "made it" advertising their success. It is only logical that even if everybody followed the same strategy, nobody would be successful. Everyone would ultimately be in the same position thus the perceived value of that action/s would have rendered them all useless.

The "Look at me/Be like me" success stories are nothing but self-loathing narratives that people use to market themselves. The primary usage is for them to make even more money by having common simpletons (that do not understand statistics) follow them. They have no basis in reality and can turn your excitement into dire disappointment. It's your life. You are in control. Prefer to ignore the flashy folk. Most likely they are so full of themselves that when the tides turn, they won't know what hit them. Even if you still don't believe in luck, she has her own way of proving you wrong.





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I agree with this to a certain extent but not entirely. Sure if you try to walk in the exact same footsteps as a successful person your life will not turn out like theirs, but you can still learn a lot from some of the underlying principles behind their actions. As a musician I see many others trying to copy the sound of their heroes, forgetting that what their heroes did was create something unique and original. Instead of trying to recreate the exact sound of another artist you can only be successful by coming up with something original that has it's own character. Many if not all of the greatest artists in history understood this, but most people do not.

You can learn a lot by the underlying principles of any person. You can take any successful emperor and learn to be ruthless. You can take Steve jobs and learn how to be an asshole. You can take gandi and learn about self sacrifice.

it is irrelevant who you choose to take examples. Qualities don't matter. at all. it is the sequence of events that bind everything together.

You are talking nonsense here.

@captaincanary has a valid point: by observing successful people one can extract what's common between them and learn from this.

No you can't. if that was true then most people on this earth would be successful since most people are sheeple and follow the leaders.

the earth's population proves you wrong.

Yes, you can. Extracting common features is not easy (that's why most people cannot do it) but actually this is the basis of abstract thinking and intelligence in general.

People learn from each other, mostly by looking up to other people. But you need to make a distinction between imitation and inspiration.

Which proves you wrong.

Extracting common features is not easy (that's why most people cannot do it)

not hard. very easy actually. anyone can do it.

People learn from each other, mostly by looking up to other people. But you need to make a distinction between imitation and inspiration.

both go hand in hand

Which proves you wrong.

You just told me "this is a can of coke therefore potato"

no it doesn't prove me wrong. It proves you incoherent though.

Yes, sir. I'm incoherent. Therefore potato.

On one hand I would say that you are right. If someone is successfull and takes cocaine, it does not mean that you taking cocaine will make you successful. If he has green hair, you having green hair will make you successful.

But: people who work hard and in a smart manner should be copied in a way that the other person should work hard and smart as well.

If not, you are saying that they should not try to learn a thing or two from successful people and that there is no way to become successful.

If you cannot learn something from successful people from who can you learn something?? One thing is for sure... one cannot learn anything from those so-called teachers at public-schools... those are really the worst persons...

But: people who work hard and in a smart manner should be copied in a way that the other person should work hard and smart as well.

even so, still doesn't work since all contexts are different.

If not, you are saying that they should not try to learn a thing or two from successful people and that there is no way to become successful.

I am saying that learning from all people is the best way to go. There is no need to focus only on the successful ones. Heck, you can even learn more from the unsuccessful ones.

If you cannot learn something from successful people from who can you learn something?? One thing is for sure... one cannot learn anything from those so-called teachers at public-schools... those are really the worst persons...

Public teaching is useless

I totally agree with your point of view. So many people fall for the survivorship bias, which firstly ignores people who have acted the exact same way as their successful counterparts but got different results (due to the fact that their failure has rendered them invisible); and secondly ignores the fact that there really can't be "the exact same way". :)

@elemenya is quickly becoming one of my favourite users. :)
You've made some cool observations on posts, I've noticed.

@kyriacos was on the list already.

Cheers to both!

Thank you, @schattenjaeger! I'm trying to do my best :)

Kind of makes you wonder if the whole idea of the "American dream" is one big case of survivorship bias.

haha, indeed!

the "American Scheme"

oh nice one. I should have mentioned that.

You need to do what is right for you.
never take mindlessly any action based on someone’s advice, least of which that of a "so called" guru for whatever topic.
My problem with ie “financial gurus” is, that they’re not relevant to the people they are trying to teach.
Sure, at some point in their life they may have been relevant, but not anymore than.

everyone is unique and you will have your own way to reach your own goal, I think it is worth to see how other's meaure , but not to copy, you will never know which suits you well until you do it. Strive hard everyone:) steem on!

So I always try. But as it turned out, if you're lucky with one in a thousand, it's definitely not me :)

Great write up. I agree following what someone else does will most likely not make you successful. You'll just be a carbon copy of that person who possible brings little to nothing new to the table. You really have to find what works for you, what can you set you apart from the masses and use that to your advantage. That take lots of hard work and creativity....

Too bad I like math!

nicely put.

I agree where you are coming from, but I would rather take my advice from someone that is self loathing then someone self defecating their pants because they don't care lol.

Well I guess this guy has a pretty dope crib, so what am I saying...

you could learn the same amount of valuable info from both. that's the point.

Good chance I could guess the reason why the homeless is that way (Drugs, Lack of parental-ship growing up, addictive personalities to partying/gambling)....Now it is a little harder guessing how someone became wealthy.

yeap. 90% of the prisoners in the U.S come from troubled families. (abuse, poor, crime...)

Trying to emulate others who are successful is not a bad thing as they have found a successful formula. Not trying is worst than doing nothing.

Success don't come easy and is all about trial and error. You can tweak the formula of success to make it your own. With the rare exception to the rule, many successful people have failed over and over again and succeeded in the end.

The reason being is that most have learnt from their failures. So trying to emulate someone else who are successful is not necessarily bad as long as you learn from the process when if you fail.

never said it is bad. I am saying it is pointless.

Success don't come easy and is all about trial and error.

luck plays a major role.

Yes, luck does play a big role. Successful people just happens to make it by being in the right time and place.

mostly is about that indeed.

The post needs alot of work. You need to improve!

Excellent post.
In 2016, the Nobel prize were the British economist Oliver HART, Professor at Harvard University (USA), Finnish economist Bengt Khol'mstrem, Professor Massachusetts Institute of technology (USA), the elaboration of the contract theory in neoclassical Economics. The neoclassical direction assumes the rationality of economic agents, widely uses the theory of economic equilibrium and game theory. Oliver HART in the mid-1980s has made a fundamental contribution to a new model of contract theory that deals with the important case of incomplete contracts.
Impossible to predict and anticipate, @kyriacos=)))

excellent. :) thank you for this. Heck, you could make a post about it.

Could,@kyriacos. With pleasure. Only sorry for my bad English :))) I also interested in this topic

Wrote a post, @kyriacosSo unpredictable economy. Or what gives the Nobel prize?.
I'd be happy to hear your opinion =))))

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